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post #1651 of 3212
I ended up upgrading to this player because my BD-30 started to have issues. Upon recalibrating, this player was much closer to "nominal" values than the BD-30. There may have been something very wrong with my old player. Green was especially brighter than the 30.
It may also be my eyes but the picture looks clearer and sharper also. I don't really care much about load times buy they are significantly less than the 30. I haven't run a regular DVD to comment about the upconversion but I can assume that it is much better than the 30 which was reported to be very poor.
post #1652 of 3212
What were your 30 issues? I have a 35 in the bedroom now, and it developed a skipping issue (rare but annoying) and I got the 85.
post #1653 of 3212
there is absolutely nothing wrong with my 601k in the bedroom. I just wanted netflix support. that's why i bought the sony and panny 85. For a disc player the 601 is solid and for amazon support and pandora its also solid.

I never owned the 30/35, isn't it pretty similar to the 60/601/605?
post #1654 of 3212
If Panasonic and Hulu work out something concerning Hulu Plus, would that be a feature that could be added to the Panasonic DMP-BD85 via a software upgrade to the Blu-ray player, or is that going to require a new model Panasonic Blu-ray player to come out to support Hulu Plus via a hardware upgrade?
post #1655 of 3212
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

What were your 30 issues? I have a 35 in the bedroom now, and it developed a skipping issue (rare but annoying) and I got the 85.

The 30 stopped playing Netflix discs. The last 6 I got from them would not play. Any new ones that I purchased were just fine though. The 85 plays all of them. It sounds weird. I called both Netflix and Panasonic. They could not pinpoint a problem other than a firmware update, which I had the latest.
post #1656 of 3212
I finally picked up the Panasonic DMP-85 this weekend and was able to do some side by side comparisons to the Samsung BDC5500C I got for my birthday a few weeks ago.
These are just initial impressions since I haven't had enough time to run them both through the gauntlet together yet.
The very first thing I noticed is the appearance and build quality of the Panasonic is much better. I know appearance can be subjective but I personally like the look of the 85 better. The 85 seems so much more solid as well. It is heavier, and in no way seems flimsy and light like the Samsung does.
One of the reasons I initially wanted a Samsung was because I have a Samsung LCD and I liked the way that when I powered on the Samsung Blu-Ray player it also powered up my TV and set it to HDMI 3 and was ready to go. Well what a suprise it was to me that the 85 does the same thing since it also supports Anynet+. I probably could have figured that out with some reading but I figured being two separate manufacturers there would be no way. That's a cool plus.
So far the Blu-Rays I have tried have been Avatar, Book of Eli, Prince of Persia, How To Train Your Dragon,and Marmaduke. I would be lying if I said I could see a noticeable difference between the two in anything playing in Blu Ray format. Although, I did experience some audio dropout on "How To Train Your Dragon" when playing on the Samsung in certain scenes, the pictures were both beautiful. The load times were pretty equal on both players and is no longer a concern with either. It was so much a non-factor that I didn't bother to pull out a timer and get specifics.
When it comes to regular DVD format I only had the chance to view some partial scenes of various DVD's within my collection. I watched scenes from "We Were Soldiers", "Walk the Line", "Finding Nemo", and "Black Hawk Down". This is one area where the 85 seems to have the upper hand. The upscaled picture seemed better on the 85 but I will take more time in the next week to do a more detailed evaluation and give some explanation.
Another of the big reasons I wanted to give the Panny a look was the analog audio out. I am running a Denon receiver along with Klipsch Reference Series and it does not have HDMI pass through. I still love the sound of this receiver so I am not looking to upgrade it quite yet so the analog out is a HUGE plus for me. I realize this is not a factor for everybody since many have HDMI pass through and even more are quite satisfied with the digital/optical out audio. Again I need more time to come to a fair conclusion on whether this should be a factor in my decision between the two players. I often feel it's better to be safe than sorry.
As for the internet side of these players I can only say that I was NEVER able to even get the Samsung to connect to my AT&T DSL much less try any streaming content. The 85 however auto connected with no problem and I will give it a go in the next week or two and see how it fares. This is one area of the player that will get little or no use from me but if a player is going to support a feature I want to make sure it works correctly. I do not have any kind of files on my computer that I have a need to play so I will not be able to comment on this either.
Since I have received so much help and gained so much knowledge from many people on this forum I felt it was only fair to post my experiences with these two players in hopes that maybe it will help someone else. So far I am very pleased with the Panasonic DMP 85 and I am definitely leaning towards keeping it but I also have been playing with electronics long enough to know you have to take the time to make fair comparisons if you want the component that is best for you.
post #1657 of 3212
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Originally Posted by bigjsd View Post

I finally picked up the Panasonic DMP-85 this weekend and was able to do some side by side comparisons to the Samsung BDC5500C I got for my birthday a few weeks ago.
These are just initial impressions since I haven't had enough time to run them both through the gauntlet together yet.

The very first thing I noticed is the appearance and build quality of the Panasonic is much better. I know appearance can be subjective but I personally like the look of the 85 better. The 85 seems so much more solid as well. It is heavier, and in no way seems flimsy and light like the Samsung does.

One of the reasons I initially wanted a Samsung was because I have a Samsung LCD and I liked the way that when I powered on the Samsung Blu-Ray player it also powered up my TV and set it to HDMI 3 and was ready to go. Well what a suprise it was to me that the 85 does the same thing since it also supports Anynet+. I probably could have figured that out with some reading but I figured being two separate manufacturers there would be no way. That's a cool plus.

So far the Blu-Rays I have tried have been Avatar, Book of Eli, Prince of Persia, How To Train Your Dragon,and Marmaduke. I would be lying if I said I could see a noticeable difference between the two in anything playing in Blu Ray format. Although, I did experience some audio dropout on "How To Train Your Dragon" when playing on the Samsung in certain scenes, the pictures were both beautiful. The load times were pretty equal on both players and is no longer a concern with either. It was so much a non-factor that I didn't bother to pull out a timer and get specifics.

When it comes to regular DVD format I only had the chance to view some partial scenes of various DVD's within my collection. I watched scenes from "We Were Soldiers", "Walk the Line", "Finding Nemo", and "Black Hawk Down". This is one area where the 85 seems to have the upper hand. The upscaled picture seemed better on the 85 but I will take more time in the next week to do a more detailed evaluation and give some explanation.

Another of the big reasons I wanted to give the Panny a look was the analog audio out. I am running a Denon receiver along with Klipsch Reference Series and it does not have HDMI pass through. I still love the sound of this receiver so I am not looking to upgrade it quite yet so the analog out is a HUGE plus for me. I realize this is not a factor for everybody since many have HDMI pass through and even more are quite satisfied with the digital/optical out audio. Again I need more time to come to a fair conclusion on whether this should be a factor in my decision between the two players. I often feel it's better to be safe than sorry.

As for the internet side of these players I can only say that I was NEVER able to even get the Samsung to connect to my AT&T DSL much less try any streaming content. The 85 however auto connected with no problem and I will give it a go in the next week or two and see how it fares. This is one area of the player that will get little or no use from me but if a player is going to support a feature I want to make sure it works correctly. I do not have any kind of files on my computer that I have a need to play so I will not be able to comment on this either.

Since I have received so much help and gained so much knowledge from many people on this forum I felt it was only fair to post my experiences with these two players in hopes that maybe it will help someone else. So far I am very pleased with the Panasonic DMP 85 and I am definitely leaning towards keeping it but I also have been playing with electronics long enough to know you have to take the time to make fair comparisons if you want the component that is best for you.

easier to read this way.

how big is your screen and how far from it do you sit? (that info helps to sort of 'gauge' how well the dvd upscaling works, for me, anyway)

thanks!
post #1658 of 3212
I'm sorry, I meant to preview the post and fix all that but I accidentally hit post.

52" screen and I sit 10'-12' away.
post #1659 of 3212
Here is my set-up and the two players set for comparison.

Please excuse the Cat5e cable running through the house LOL We just recently moved in and I haven't ran them through my attic. If anyone cares to help I'm in SoCal :-)
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post #1660 of 3212
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjsd View Post

I finally picked up the Panasonic DMP-85 this weekend and was able to do some side by side comparisons to the Samsung BDC5500C I got for my birthday a few weeks ago.
These are just initial impressions since I haven't had enough time to run them both through the gauntlet together yet.
The very first thing I noticed is the appearance and build quality of the Panasonic is much better. I know appearance can be subjective but I personally like the look of the 85 better. The 85 seems so much more solid as well. It is heavier, and in no way seems flimsy and light like the Samsung does.
One of the reasons I initially wanted a Samsung was because I have a Samsung LCD and I liked the way that when I powered on the Samsung Blu-Ray player it also powered up my TV and set it to HDMI 3 and was ready to go. Well what a suprise it was to me that the 85 does the same thing since it also supports Anynet+. I probably could have figured that out with some reading but I figured being two separate manufacturers there would be no way. That's a cool plus.
So far the Blu-Rays I have tried have been Avatar, Book of Eli, Prince of Persia, How To Train Your Dragon,and Marmaduke. I would be lying if I said I could see a noticeable difference between the two in anything playing in Blu Ray format. Although, I did experience some audio dropout on "How To Train Your Dragon" when playing on the Samsung in certain scenes, the pictures were both beautiful. The load times were pretty equal on both players and is no longer a concern with either. It was so much a non-factor that I didn't bother to pull out a timer and get specifics.
When it comes to regular DVD format I only had the chance to view some partial scenes of various DVD's within my collection. I watched scenes from "We Were Soldiers", "Walk the Line", "Finding Nemo", and "Black Hawk Down". This is one area where the 85 seems to have the upper hand. The upscaled picture seemed better on the 85 but I will take more time in the next week to do a more detailed evaluation and give some explanation.
Another of the big reasons I wanted to give the Panny a look was the analog audio out. I am running a Denon receiver along with Klipsch Reference Series and it does not have HDMI pass through. I still love the sound of this receiver so I am not looking to upgrade it quite yet so the analog out is a HUGE plus for me. I realize this is not a factor for everybody since many have HDMI pass through and even more are quite satisfied with the digital/optical out audio. Again I need more time to come to a fair conclusion on whether this should be a factor in my decision between the two players. I often feel it's better to be safe than sorry.
As for the internet side of these players I can only say that I was NEVER able to even get the Samsung to connect to my AT&T DSL much less try any streaming content. The 85 however auto connected with no problem and I will give it a go in the next week or two and see how it fares. This is one area of the player that will get little or no use from me but if a player is going to support a feature I want to make sure it works correctly. I do not have any kind of files on my computer that I have a need to play so I will not be able to comment on this either.
Since I have received so much help and gained so much knowledge from many people on this forum I felt it was only fair to post my experiences with these two players in hopes that maybe it will help someone else. So far I am very pleased with the Panasonic DMP 85 and I am definitely leaning towards keeping it but I also have been playing with electronics long enough to know you have to take the time to make fair comparisons if you want the component that is best for you.

I have the same 2 at home as well. Love the BD85 except for the speed. Kills me. Otherwise, above and beyond the Sammy. Not saying the Sammy is faster really, but the Panny is really a slug. I also have a Sony BDP-N460 which seems much faster to me moving around and such.
post #1661 of 3212
I didn't find either player to be slow for me. From power up to the main menu of most discs was right at a minute. My only other experience with a Blu-Ray player was a very early build from Sony and I could power that thing up and make dinner before it was ready to play a movie.

I also might mention I haven't tried the quick start feature of the 85 yet but I will probably just opt for the more power conservative setting since it seemed to load quickly enough for me.
post #1662 of 3212
for some reason my panasonic 85 player has developed a no voice problem when using analogs. there is an echo from the back speakers of the tv or something. its very weird. I am sending it back. I probably just get a refund and move away from the panasonic. since it was more trouble then it was worth.

Jacob
post #1663 of 3212
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Originally Posted by FuzzyReets View Post

I have the same 2 at home as well. Love the BD85 except for the speed. Kills me. Otherwise, above and beyond the Sammy. Not saying the Sammy is faster really, but the Panny is really a slug. I also have a Sony BDP-N460 which seems much faster to me moving around and such.

Speaking of speed - I know the PS3 is considered the "speed demon". I wonder why other BD manufacturers have not figured out how Sony did that.
post #1664 of 3212
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Originally Posted by fubdap View Post

Speaking of speed - I know the PS3 is considered the "speed demon". I wonder why other BD manufacturers have not figured out how Sony did that.

Yeah I actually sold my PS3 and bought the bd85 about a month ago. I couldn't stand the fan noise of the PS3 and never used it for gaming so whatever. In hind site, I probably would have bought a higher end Sony unit for a few reasons but I guess I'm stuck with this one now unless someone wants to buy a barely used one from me Takers?
post #1665 of 3212
I'm just curious as to what kind of load times would be considered fast? The 85 and the Sammy 5500 are the first two Blu-Rays I have spent any significant time with. I did own a very early build of a Sony that was so painfully slow I returned it but I thought the current generation of players, including the 85 was sufficient. Being unhappy having to wait 60-90 seconds from power up to the time the movie begins seems to be a petty complaint considering you will be sitting for two hours to watch a movie. Should I be expecting better? What could I possibly do with the extra 30-45 seconds if they trimmed the time in half? I think studios themselves could make discs more efficient by putting the menu at the very beginning, which would make all the players seem better.
post #1666 of 3212
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Originally Posted by bigjsd View Post

I'm just curious as to what kind of load times would be considered fast? The 85 and the Sammy 5500 are the first two Blu-Rays I have spent any significant time with. I did own a very early build of a Sony that was so painfully slow I returned it but I thought the current generation of players, including the 85 was sufficient. Being unhappy having to wait 60-90 seconds from power up to the time the movie begins seems to be a petty complaint considering you will be sitting for two hours to watch a movie. Should I be expecting better? What could I possibly do with the extra 30-45 seconds if they trimmed the time in half? I think studios themselves could make discs more efficient by putting the menu at the very beginning, which would make all the players seem better.

I don't know what would be considered fast, but my current Sony S350 takes, on average, 5-7 minutes to load. I can tell you that seems like forever when you're just staring at a blank or loading screen.
post #1667 of 3212
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Originally Posted by bigjsd View Post

I'm just curious as to what kind of load times would be considered fast? The 85 and the Sammy 5500 are the first two Blu-Rays I have spent any significant time with. I did own a very early build of a Sony that was so painfully slow I returned it but I thought the current generation of players, including the 85 was sufficient. Being unhappy having to wait 60-90 seconds from power up to the time the movie begins seems to be a petty complaint considering you will be sitting for two hours to watch a movie. Should I be expecting better? What could I possibly do with the extra 30-45 seconds if they trimmed the time in half? I think studios themselves could make discs more efficient by putting the menu at the very beginning, which would make all the players seem better.

It's not really the load time that bothers me all that much....it's just a bit sluggish when you want to do things like move around chapters and menus and such. I'm coming from a PS3 which felt way faster to me. It just had that extra speed there where it didn't burp on things when you wanted to skip a couple chapters ahead or move around menus and such. I mean it's not a huge complaint of mine but it was something that I have noticed right off the bat since changing. I'm not interested in going back or anything but it was something I was somewhat disappointed in.
post #1668 of 3212
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

I don't know what would be considered fast, but my current Sony S350 takes, on average, 5-7 minutes to load. I can tell you that seems like forever when you're just staring at a blank or loading screen.

That was the problem with the first Sony Blu Ray I had, and is why I chose to return it and wait for the technology to mature a bit. That is completely unacceptable in my opinion. The current players I am evaluating, as I mentioned earlier, are much quicker. From power on to the time I can press play at the main menu on both of these players averages right at a minute on most discs. I really can't complain about that kind of speed. Would it be nice if it only took 10 seconds? Of course but it is nowhere near a deal breaker for me and if it was the only difference between choosing one player over another I doubt it would be a factor either.
post #1669 of 3212
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Originally Posted by FuzzyReets View Post

It's not really the load time that bothers me all that much....it's just a bit sluggish when you want to do things like move around chapters and menus and such. I'm coming from a PS3 which felt way faster to me. It just had that extra speed there where it didn't burp on things when you wanted to skip a couple chapters ahead or move around menus and such. I mean it's not a huge complaint of mine but it was something that I have noticed right off the bat since changing. I'm not interested in going back or anything but it was something I was somewhat disappointed in.

Okay now I understand when you say it's slow. Yes the menu navigation could be improved but it probably isn't as noticeable to me since I haven't owned a better version in the past. I think this player will do the job for the next couple of years and by then the technology will probably have improved tenfold and cost 2/3 of what it does now.

I think I am going to opt to keep the Panasonic and return the Samsung to Costco. The Panny just seems to be the better component to me even for the $40 dollar more it costs over the Samsung. The build is more rugged, it has the analog audio out, appears to upscale regular DVD better, and can actually connect to the internet (even though the feature will seldom be used). In the end it just comes down to a gut feeling I have that the Samsung is a sub par unit. It was a bit disturbing that my local Best Buy had 15 refurbished Samsung BDC5500C on sale this weekend. That is a bad sign to me.
post #1670 of 3212
Is the BD85K the best DVD upconverting player available in the sub $300 price range?

I'm looking for the best Blu-ray player available for DVD upconversion, but within the $200 to $300 price range.

It will be used with a 46" Sony 1080p LCD.

The only very important features I need are very good Blu-ray and DVD quality. Any other features are nice, but not as important.

I have read hundreds of posts, and it seems the BD85K is getting very good reviews with DVD upconversion, but how good is it, in general? Is it better than the PS3 Slim with DVD upconversion?

Thank you so much!!
post #1671 of 3212
allstarnerd- it does a very good job of upconverting regular dvd, "the best" is subjective, but I have owned my 85 for a couple of months now and have watched more than a few regular dvd's and it does a good job. I don't have a ps3 slim but I have a "fat" and it (the 85) does do a better job on regular dvd's, actually noticeably better picture. Not as good as the Oppo, but still very good.
post #1672 of 3212
I have both the Oppo and Panny 85. I'm hard pressed to tell the difference in dvd upconversion on a 47" monitor, maybe a slight edge to the Oppo. I'd say it is probably one of the best sub 300 dollar players at DVD upconversion. (You should be able to pick it up sub 200).
post #1673 of 3212
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

I have both the Oppo and Panny 85. I'm hard pressed to tell the difference in dvd upconversion on a 47" monitor, maybe a slight edge to the Oppo. I'd say it is probably one of the best sub 300 dollar players at DVD upconversion. (You should be able to pick it up sub 200).

I have the 85 and a sony BDP-S570, both very good players and then I have my old 601k from last year just sitting there until i decide what to do with it. I Have to say I find panasonic blu-ray players very solid units. They may not support as many media types outside of standard disc formats dvd bd cd etc. and the 85 is limited to divx photos and mp3 audio for media types. It's limited compared to the sony, samsung lg oppo etc, but again for a lower priced unit, I don't think you'll find a more solid unit for what it was designed to do which was play blu-ray discs.
post #1674 of 3212
Thanks so much for all the replies! It's a huge help.

When you say the BD85K compares to the OPPO, which model # of the OPPO are you referrring to?

The thing about the OPPO is I won't be using a Blu-ray player for anything other than Blu-ray and DVD's. I definitely do not need a Universal Player.

So it seems people agree that on a Sony 46" 1080p LCD, the BD85K is one of the best players around in the $250 price range for DVD upconversion?

I've only seen DVD upconversion with the PS3 slim, so that's the quality I'm trying to go by. If the BD85K is as good or better in DVD upconversion, that would be fine for me, I'm sure.

Thank you so much.
post #1675 of 3212
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Originally Posted by allstarnerd View Post

Thanks so much for all the replies! It's a huge help.

When you say the BD85K compares to the OPPO, which model # of the OPPO are you referrring to?

The thing about the OPPO is I won't be using a Blu-ray player for anything other than Blu-ray and DVD's. I definitely do not need a Universal Player.

So it seems people agree that on a Sony 46" 1080p LCD, the BD85K is one of the best players around in the $250 price range for DVD upconversion?

I've only seen DVD upconversion with the PS3 slim, so that's the quality I'm trying to go by. If the BD85K is as good or better in DVD upconversion, that would be fine for me, I'm sure.

Thank you so much.

Usually people use the oppo as an upconversion reference for standard DVDs because on large screens maybe 65 and bigger it makes a difference fora smaller screen size you'll be hard pressed to tell. That's my impression from reading the different oppo owner feedback.
post #1676 of 3212
I'm having some minor issues with the netflix app on the panasonic today. For some reason after I watch something and it goes back to the queue I get a message saying the data is out of date, and random things have locked up and not started to play correctly. The rest of the player seems fine.
post #1677 of 3212
I was having that problem as well. it would refuse to play certain netflix titles. I have sent it back. I have noticed it happening the last few weeks.

Jacob
post #1678 of 3212
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I was having that problem as well. it would refuse to play certain netflix titles. I have sent it back. I have noticed it happening the last few weeks.

Jacob

Well netflix has been making changes too. They added 5.1 streaming and full 1080p HD streaming. The units getting the update are the Ps3 the wii and the xbox none of the stand alone units have been updated, and not sure when they will be. It sounds like for full netflix support the best purchase would have been a game console instead of a stand alone blu-ray player.
post #1679 of 3212
I own the ps3 slim. its a fine a player. the netflix works nicely on it.
the new oppo 93 is suppose to get netflix. I am not sure what kind it will be.

Jacob
post #1680 of 3212
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I own the ps3 slim. its a fine a player. the netflix works nicely on it.
the new oppo 93 is suppose to get netflix. I am not sure what kind it will be.

Jacob

I have a slightly off topic question, but is HDMI hot swappable ? e.g. do i risk damaging a device while the TV is on? I was thinking of putting the sony in the living room so all my media support is out there, and the panasonic in the bedroom. Just didn't want to turn the TV off during the swap.
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