Originally Posted by tonygeno
Not only have his motives been questioned, his identity has been questioned. Mr. Sub has said that there is no person named Chu Gai. I guess he thinks it's a nom de plume.
I don't think motives are important at this point. In fact, I think Chu has earned the communities' (both audio and charity) thanks. No more will MLS be allowed to steal from either of them.
Now if only one raffle had been conducted and the money not sent, a case could be made that MLS had unintentionally gotten in over his head. But to continue to conduct raffles and pocket the money? This can only be interpreted as willful behavior that needs to be punished to the full extent of the law.
When all the raffle talk was going on, there were only two, count them, TWO
that MLS admitted underfunding. Those were his words written more than once. UNDERFUNDING.
What he spoke of were the following ones. There was one for Derek's daughter who was in the hospital. Juvenile diabetes and other serious complications. Insurance runs out real fast and there's only so many things you can sell and only so much in one's 401K you can borrow against. There was also one that was for Sloan Kettering on behalf of David Fabrikant's father who had terminal cancer. Most of you know Fabrikant. He's a decent and good man. Schifter reached out to both in their time of emotional distress. Any of you have kids? An older parent whose time on earth is limited and won't get to see future grand kids? That's the picture Schifter used to run the raffle scams.
In the case of Sloan Kettering, it was only when the organization was contacted was it discovered that not ONE CENT
went there out of the thousands raised. NOTHING!
After all sorts of excuses, a check finally made its way there with promises the UNDERFUNDING error would be rectified in due course. That never happened.
In the case of Derek's daughter, only a portion ever made its way there. Even afterwards when the amounts needed to square things away were known, what did he say privately? He said by his reckoning it was only 1/2 of what the amount actually was. On a side note consider the following if you will. Can you imagine a little girl who goes out and Google's her name only to find out her name is associated with having been used for a raffle scam? Mother******! The reckoning has started.
The third that everyone knew about but Schifter never acknowledged was Hugh's friend who was in the hospital also dying of cancer. Nothing that Schifter ever collected personally that went through his PayPal account made its way there.
With respect to all this I got involved. The more I got involved the more I found out about other matters not even related to the raffles. People who I never expected contacted me about horror stories involving money they'd lent Schifter and never received repayment. Some had contracts, some had promissory notes, and some had the HUMBLY handshake and a warm man hug as collateral. Virtually everyone has taken it up the backside.
So, given that I now suspected very strongly that the raffles weren't just an accident. They weren't just "I'll borrow from the petty cash box until I get paid then put it back and no one will know." stories. They weren't computer error. Or a PayPal screw up. So, I was faced with a decision. All the talking and posting I and others wasn't doing anything. So I thought to myself, let's give the guy one more chance. And I thought what was the one cause Schifter was unlikely to raise money for and screw it up by keeping it? After perusing the list, I settled on the very first one run back in 2004. It was a raffle to benefit The Ballet Nouveau. Why them? It was the one his granddaugher, Gracie, danced at. Surely a grandfather who has doted for years on her, written about her, attended her performances, would not use her picture as fish bait.
Hence, I took the first step. With the aid of a few trusted people not associated with any of these audio websites, contact was made to them through a form on their website. Eventually they emailed back and after a couple of exchanges, informaton regarding the amounts provided, the dates, the possible names it could've been given under was investigated by them.
What follows below, are the dates and amounts raised for this organization.
October 18, 2004
October 24, 2005
December 12, 2007
Total amounts said to have been raised = $22,750
Now, the email text which was sent by Amanda Stewart who is employed by Ballet Nouveau.
I looked through our records and we received a donation of $7,500 from Perpetual Technologies in November 2005. It looks like that is the only cash contribution we received over the years, in addition to some in kind contributions for our annual silent auction.
Thank you for your patience while I researched this,
This strongly suggests that MLS entirely diverted the results of both the 2004 and 2007 raffles. Only 3/4 of the amounts of the 2005 raffles went to their intended recipients. There is a total shortfall of $15,250!
I don't know how you all count it, but I say that brought to four the number of people/organizations who were either underfunded or not funded at all.
After that, other organizations were contacted among those the Dana Farber Cancer Institute/Jimmy Fund and the American Red Cross. Much more work went into those. Some of you who've followed matters over at AH know about this. Some I've spoken or written to personally about it. Suffice it to say I gave them everything I had. I gave them dates, summaries, links, I archived webpages for fear they'd be lost, amounts. We correpsonded by email and phone over a period of months. They ran their own investigations and cross checked things on national and regional levels conducting interviews if need be. They ran it through their legal boards. And they were pissed. I mean, they were Phucking pissed. To expedite things, I put the two in contact with each other and I won't say which did it first, but one and then the other contacted the Longmont cops, State AG, State Secretary of State, and I hear other organizations were also contacted. Just remember how they nailed Capone.
I was nothing more than a facillitator with a lot of information. I put people in contact that ought to be talking. I cooperated with the investigations. I didn't have a list of 707 names. All I could do was identify those who I thought were friendly. By friendly it meant they were no longer associated with MLS nor were they predisposed to be overly friendly and talkative with those who might be still friendly to MLS. They had all the receipts. I didn't. They were able to provide additional sources of contacts. I didn't. They're the ones who were directly affected. I wasn't. I never contributed and I've never owned a product sold by them. You all and that includes me, should extend your deepest thanks because they've provided information I never could. They've got their PayPal receipts to MLS's Graham Company. They kept the records. They were the nails, each and everyone of them. They found others. Hell, I didn't know everybody and I certainly didn't know a lot of people over at AV451. I appreciate the thanks but the thanks should go to the charities for what they do and did. The thanks should go to the government agencies who so wonderfully dealt with the investigations. And the thanks should go to everyone who has chosen to provide information and even a willingness to testify against the horror show that's been going on in Colorado for a great number of years. I salute all of them and I love them.