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Yeah....I want to know when will my gal Winona make an appearance?tongue.gif


Monday night on Fox. Might act a little different from what you're used to though. smile.gif
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Everyone...keep political comments far, far away from AVS.
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Monday night on Fox. Might act a little different from what you're used to though. smile.gif

Right, the show, which stars, Natalie Zia, who played Winona, and Kevin Bacon is called The Following. Because of my fondness for Winona I have setup a season pass for The Following. At first blush it looks like a fairly routine police procedural but it still might turn out to be all right.
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Right, the show, which stars, Natalie Zia, who played Winona, and Kevin Bacon is called The Following. Because of my fondness for Winona I have setup a season pass for The Following. At first blush it looks like a fairly routine police procedural but it still might turn out to be all right.

I don't think it's a procedural. I believe it's a serialized drama revolving around the hunt for this super-serial killer and his loyal minions, which earns it a place in my DVR's lineup. smile.gif
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I don't think it's a procedural. I believe it's a serialized drama revolving around the hunt for this super-serial killer and his loyal minions, which earns it a place in my DVR's lineup. smile.gif

I intentionally oversimplified a little bit. The multiple serial killers aspect of the show, coupled with both Serial Killer Number One and the retired FBI agent having been romantically involved with the same woman (Zia) give it a chance to be something more than a police procedural. Still, at its core it is about the FBI guy searching for a cabal of serial killers. Like you, I thought the twists The Following promises were enough to bring me aboard, at least for a while.
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I don't think it's a procedural. I believe it's a serialized drama revolving around the hunt for this super-serial killer and his loyal minions, which earns it a place in my DVR's lineup. smile.gif
Sounds OK, but I dunno....(my admiration for NZ not withstanding).
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^^^ Initial reviews are pretty strong, Brother. From the HOTP thread...

TV Review
'The Following' (Fox)
By Brian Lowry, Variety

"The Following" is extremely well done, terrifically cinematic and, from a political standpoint, terribly ill timed -- not just featuring a charismatic serial killer and his equally homicidal cult-like followers, but in later episodes including an uncomfortable subplot involving a child. Still, if you're going to play on (or near) cable turf -- and that appears to be the goal -- there's no pulling punches, and exec producer Kevin Williamson delivers a full-throttle ride that, four episodes in, proves twisty, unpredictable and tense. Weighing those assets against the unrelenting grimness, the series deserves its own loyal following, despite qualms about its durability.

Add episodic TV to Kevin Bacon's list of degrees. He plays former FBI agent Ryan Hardy, who tracked down a Hannibal Lecter-like killer, a charming literary professor named Joe Carroll (a perfectly cast James Purefoy), with an inordinate fondness for Edgar Allan Poe. When Carroll escapes, Hardy is enlisted to help find him, though it gives little away to say Carroll's reach extends well beyond his cell, thanks to the messianic devotion of his followers.

In addition to the other agents who aren't quite sure what to make of the taciturn Hardy, there's Carroll's ex-wife ("Justified's" Natalie Zea), whose presence complicates matters in intriguing ways. Much of that is doled out through judicious flashbacks, filling in backstories for hunter, prey and other side characters in this gritty melodrama.

Perhaps foremost in a long list of serial-killer cinema, "The Following" brings to mind "Manhunter," Michael Mann's crisp 1986 movie that introduced the Lecter character to the screen before "Silence of the Lambs" moved him front and center. (Given the similarities, whether the resemblance bodes well for NBC's "Hannibal," directly inspired from novelist Thomas Harris' creation, remains to be seen.)

As with most entries in this genre, life is almost absurdly cheap -- and given the timing, perhaps too cheap. Still, about all Fox can do with the show at this point is slap a disclaimer on it, make clear this is very edgy stuff and hope the program finds the right audience, in sufficient numbers.

Based on the promos, the network clearly sees Bacon as the principal draw, and he's fine as the world-weary investigator. Still, Purefoy -- whose mixture of charm and malevolence dates back to "Rome" for stateside viewers -- steals virtually every scene he's in as the brilliant psychopath, whose ability to seduce, even through prison bars, is a pivotal aspect of the plot.

As tightly constructed as the early episodes are, a skeptic will no doubt ask how this premise can be sustained beyond its initial season, much less forevermore, and it's a fair question -- especially since the detectives often seem to be several moves behind the bad guys in the opening chapters. Darkness has its place, but outright bleakness can be a tough sell, especially for mass consumption.

Despite such reservations, Williamson's creation (directed by Marcos Siega) is so cleverly executed there's a desire to cut the show some slack, prepare some Fava beans to accompany a nice Chianti, and see just how far the producers can take this conceit -- letting the chips fall where they may. So for now, "Following," lead on.

THE FOLLOWING
Fox, Mon. Jan. 21, 9 p.m.


http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117948989/
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OK, you win...will DVR tomorrow night.wink.gif
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I like a certain degree of resolution with baddies in a tale. It can easily be foreseen an endless (at least to cancellation and last episode) series of escapes by the homicidal maniac and thus frustrating manipulation of the audience (me), which I think I will nip in the bud by passing from the getgo on The Following.
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I like a certain degree of resolution with baddies in a tale. It can easily be foreseen an endless (at least to cancellation and last episode) series of escapes by the homicidal maniac and thus frustrating manipulation of the audience (me), which I think I will nip in the bud by passing from the getgo on The Following.
I'll give it a try, but it HAS to deliver right off the bat or it gets deep-sixed....there are only so many hours in the day.wink.gif
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Timothy Olyphant will be on Conan tonight. 11PM TBS
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I like a certain degree of resolution with baddies in a tale. It can easily be foreseen an endless (at least to cancellation and last episode) series of escapes by the homicidal maniac and thus frustrating manipulation of the audience (me), which I think I will nip in the bud by passing from the getgo on The Following.

You could be right. Despite my own misgivings,I decided to give The Following a try because of generally favorable reviews. Apparently it's a bloodbath, which is never a bad thing. Also the charismatic serial killer looks like an intriguing fellow. Only time will tell, of course.
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I'll give it a try, but it HAS to deliver right off the bat or it gets deep-sixed....there are only so many hours in the day.wink.gif

C'mon oink...Bacon? I think you're required to watch...
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C'mon oink...Bacon? I think you're required to watch...
I hadn't thought of it that way....biggrin.gif

Although KB is a pretty good actor, he is also kinda dumb.
He and his wife were one of the Hollywooders to lose their shirts to Mr. Bernie Madoff.rolleyes.gif
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I hadn't thought of it that way....biggrin.gif

Although KB is a pretty good actor, he is also kinda dumb.
He and his wife were one of the Hollywooders to lose their shirts to Mr. Bernie Madoff.rolleyes.gif

I don't want to come off as sounding like an apologist for the intellect or judgment of any Hollywood type but must observe that a lot of people who were previously thought to be pretty astute lost their shirts in Bernie Madoff's scam. Madoff proved that Hitler was right: the bigger your lie, the better your chances off getting away with it. Of course both Hitler and Madoff proved that even the biggest lies have a limited shelf life.smile.gif
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I don't want to come off as sounding like an apologist for the intellect or judgment of any Hollywood type but must observe that a lot of people who were previously thought to be pretty astute lost their shirts in Bernie Madoff's scam. Madoff proved that Hitler was right: the bigger your lie, the better your chances off getting away with it. Of course both Hitler and Madoff proved that even the biggest lies have a limited shelf life.smile.gif
It's been my experience greed has a tendency to override one's common sense.
One of the most important things to remember regarding your personal finances is to beware of anyone who promises you a pot of gold.
If a story sounds too good to be true, 90% of the time it is.wink.gif
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It's been my experience greed has a tendency to override one's common sense.
One of the most important things to remember regarding your personal finances is to beware of anyone who promises you a pot of gold.
If a story sounds too good to be true, 90% of the time it is.wink.gif

I couldn't agree more. What you have said was neatly encapsulated in an aphorism, which I am sure you know as well as I do: "It's impossible to cheat an honest man."
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"It's impossible to cheat an honest man."
Exactly.wink.gif
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Wrong! There is a whole industry living off the fact that it is very possible to cheat an honest but gullible man and I think that roofer knocking on your grandmother's door knows that.
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Wrong! There is a whole industry living off the fact that it is very possible to cheat an honest but gullible man and I think that roofer knocking on your grandmother's door knows that.

So do certain politicians. wink.gif
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Good episode tonight. lol Art tongue.gif
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I don't think the advertisers understand this show. I watch this show because it's got engaging characters, witty dialogue and great plot twists and developments.

Meanwhile during the show they pitching us movies like Death Race 3 and Parker. I think they're targeting the wrong audience.

BTW - loved the episode tonight.
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Sure were a lot of different threads to follow tonite. Not much violence, shucks, Raylan didn't even get to shoot somebody. mad.gif
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Tonite Raylan was an object lesson for all males who are prone, when around women, to thinking with their wrong "head."tongue.gif
I don't think he will be open to discussion when he catches up with his f__k buddy girlyfriend.

Johnny is going to be lucky to survive this season, going against Boyd, at this point in time, will be a death sentence.

The preacher sequence was great....Boyd is no dummy when it comes to the power of religion.
When I saw the toolbox, I knew.
Milking the venom from poisonous snakes is an old trick...been done in Asia for thousands of years.

I was surprised Art and Raylan let the FBI dude leave the office.
Art actually never heard a word from the guy's supervisor when he was handed the phone...he hung up.
However, it was no surprise he irrigated his ear canal with a handgun.

I am interested in the mystery going on in the personal life of Deputy Rachel Brooks.
This episode was very cryptic....
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I got a kick out of the visual links to what was going on in the background on posters and such. When Raylan was upstairs in the bedroom with his honey there was a poster on the wall from (what looked like) the movie "Tombstone"--then a few minutes later she calls him Wyatt Earp because of his big hat.

A little while later when Boyd's poor associate is laying on the couch recovering from his snake bite wounds and the Docs treatment there's a poster on the all that says "Venom"---I didn't get a chance to go back and see what artist or movie it was for.

Have they always done this? Guess I need to start paying more attention to not just the dialogue and facial mannerisms....but the visual accessories in the background tongue.gif
Edited by jaypb - 1/23/13 at 7:02am
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The intro with the snake attack was terrifying. Then the removal of the snake head that was clamped on his neck eek.gif
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I thought it was one of their best episodes ever. Walter Goggins performance was spectacular, what a complex, multilayered character his Boyd has become. The fear in his face when he realized Billy was going to go through with picking up the snake was amazing, and his "hubris" speech was note perfect. One gets the impression that despite all the things he does Boyd is basically a decent human being, he just follows a different moral code than the rest of us. Goggins captures every nuance of the role-in a show with probably the best acting on television he still stands out. His Boyd is one of the best performances ever, imo. Even tops Walt on Breaking Bad.
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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

Guess I need to start paying more attention to not just the dialogue and facial mannerisms....but the visual accessories in the background tongue.gif
The Simpsons is the ultimate example of this.
Essentially, every bit of writing on-screen is a joke.
Most of the time the camera moves so fast it's easy to miss and I have to rewind a bit.

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snake head that was clamped on his neck eek.gif
I am not a herpetologist, but I doubt that is realistic.

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I thought it was one of their best episodes ever. Walter Goggins performance was spectacular, what a complex, multilayered character his Boyd has become.
Boyd is a classic EL character; his books are filled with superbly drawn characters.
And WG really deserves an Emmy....or three.wink.gif
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Shane Vandrell [Walt Goggins] is doing his usual great job this year. He was the reason I started watching the Pilot on it's premiere night. Very good season so far... Better than Walter White, no way, imo....
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