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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

Some of you guys need to start a Rush L. thread So we can stay on topic about "Justified"
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post #1862 of 3223
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Three pages-- and with not one actual answer regarding the content between a great actor and an entertainer. rolleyes.gif

Probably because, and I'm just speculating here, nobody wants to hear it. rolleyes.gif

+3 to Fastslappy's suggestion.
post #1863 of 3223
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

rolleyes.gif Sorry the mere mention of the name gets peoples panties all bunched up (see Susquehana Hat Co.) but I was just respectfully answering the poster's question, which got side tracked with the snarky hate from some here. Three pages-- and with not one actual answer regarding the content between a great actor and an entertainer. rolleyes.gif Now I know why I haven't been around these parts in a while.

Thank you for answering my question about the actor whom I really like and his comments about the show Justified, which is the thread topic.
Sorry for the elitist snark coming your way for acceding to my request.
post #1864 of 3223
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Please allow me to scratch this itch:

/pedant mode on

Raylan.

Not "Raylon."

"Raylon" sounds like something you'd make bicycle shorts out of.

Thank you.

/pedant mode off

I'm a fan of Rayland myself
post #1865 of 3223
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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

Thank you for answering my question about the actor whom I really like and his comments about the show Justified, which is the thread topic.
Sorry for the elitist snark coming your way for acceding to my request.

I contributed to the exchange of nasty, off topic posts, by posting a link to a radio interview of Nick Searcy. I have been appalled by how much nastiness my post generated. Although I am glad my post may have given some of you who, like I did, wanted to hear what Searcy had to say, I would have left you in the dark had I realized how much emotional partisanship my post would end up generating. Mea culpa!
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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

I'm a fan of Rayland myself

Where is that? Georgia? biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I contributed to the exchange of nasty, off topic posts, by posting a link to a radio interview of Nick Searcy. I have been appalled by how much nastiness my post generated. Although I am glad my post may have given some of you who, like I did, wanted to hear what Searcy had to say, I would have left you in the dark had I realized how much emotional partisanship my post would end up generating. Mea culpa!

I even said to ignore my original post on the subject If you didn't like Rush but I guess that something the haters can abide. eek.gif
post #1868 of 3223
Please just don't post on the subject any more. No "last words." No apologies. No clarifications. Just please let's all draw a line, right here, right now, beyond which the topic no longer exists in this thread.

Please.
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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post


Sorry for the elitist snark coming your way for acceding to my request.
Nice....
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Nice....

Not to mention the gold-plated irony....rolleyes.gif

Hey, how 'bout that Boyd Crowder? wink.gif

What surprised me the most about the rattlesnake scene with with Billy was how Boyd just walked off, to let Billy die. I figured he would have had some anti-venom with him. If Billy gets bitten, then Boyd can administer the anti-venom and he's done two things: shown that Billy is a charlitan, and demonstrated his compassion to the assembled flock which only would have raised his esteem in their eyes. And the unspoken message to Billy and his sister is: Next time you won't be so lucky; best clear out now while you can. Win-win and he doesn't have to kill the guy. Boyd's usually smart enough to see all those angles.

In any event, I'm guessing Billy's mastermind sister has a supply of anti-venom handy, just in case. Boyd could have pre-empted her though, and stayed one move ahead.
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What if Billy survives to the cheers of the flock that "God favors him?"
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

What if Billy survives to the cheers of the flock that "God favors him?"

Indeed. Suppose Billy's perfidious sister secretly administers anti-venom to Billy, saves him, and then leads the congregation in Hosannahs that God's will was done.
post #1873 of 3223
Without anti-venom not everyone dies of rattlesnake bite, and those who have been bitten before develope a certain degree of tolerance/immunity. Even if his prior bites were from milked snakes, he probably got some lesser amount of venom.
post #1874 of 3223
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

Without anti-venom not everyone dies of rattlesnake bite, and those who have been bitten before develope a certain degree of tolerance/immunity. Even if his prior bites were from milked snakes, he probably got some lesser amount of venom.


I think the point was Billy was willing to take the chance, he was a true believer. His sister wasn't however, and thats who Boyd was really after. As far as leaving Billy to die to Boyd's way of thinking Billy had made the choice and it wasn't his job to save him. He might have even been a little curious to see what happened. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Not to mention the gold-plated irony....rolleyes.gif

Hey, how 'bout that Boyd Crowder? wink.gif

What surprised me the most about the rattlesnake scene with with Billy was how Boyd just walked off, to let Billy die. I figured he would have had some anti-venom with him. If Billy gets bitten, then Boyd can administer the anti-venom and he's done two things: shown that Billy is a charlitan, and demonstrated his compassion to the assembled flock which only would have raised his esteem in their eyes. And the unspoken message to Billy and his sister is: Next time you won't be so lucky; best clear out now while you can. Win-win and he doesn't have to kill the guy. Boyd's usually smart enough to see all those angles.

In any event, I'm guessing Billy's mastermind sister has a supply of anti-venom handy, just in case. Boyd could have pre-empted her though, and stayed one move ahead.
I noticed that Boyd smirked when the sister yelled out " Call a Ambulance ! "
that spoke volumes to me ,

1st That she didn't have anti-venom

2nd She didn't call out to her Lord to save him

Rattlers bites are dangerous, it's a two prong danger (pun intended smile.gif ) as the venom destroys tissue & mussel while also being a potent nerve agent , as well it can kill you really fast if it's directly injected in to a vein as it will destroy/stop your heart/lungs when it reaches there . when injected into a artery in a limb you can lose that limb due to gangrene from the wide spread tissue damage as the artery spreads the venom quickly thru out the limb .
It's all depends on the where on the body the bite is . You can die very quickly with anti-venom no help at all if the bite is in the wrong place (or in Boyd's case the right place )
Boyd walked away thinking an " Eye For An Eye "
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

What surprised me the most about the rattlesnake scene with with Billy was how Boyd just walked off, to let Billy die. I figured he would have had some anti-venom with him. If Billy gets bitten, then Boyd can administer the anti-venom and he's done two things: shown that Billy is a charlitan, and demonstrated his compassion to the assembled flock which only would have raised his esteem in their eyes. And the unspoken message to Billy and his sister is: Next time you won't be so lucky; best clear out now while you can. Win-win and he doesn't have to kill the guy. Boyd's usually smart enough to see all those angles.
That would have been an interesting turn.

However, from Boyd's POV, this deadly duet was a menace...a threat to his control of the town and his wallet.
This threat was so dire, Boyd went with the nuclear response.

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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post

I think the point was Billy was willing to take the chance, he was a true believer. His sister wasn't however, and thats who Boyd was really after. As far as leaving Billy to die to Boyd's way of thinking Billy had made the choice and it wasn't his job to save him.
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I noticed that Boyd smirked when the sister yelled out " Call a Ambulance ! "
that spoke volumes to me ,

1st That she didn't have anti-venom

2nd She didn't call out to her Lord to save him
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Rattlers bites are dangerous, it's a two prong danger (pun intended smile.gif ) as the venom destroys tissue & mussel while also being a potent nerve agent , as well it can kill you really fast if it's directly injected in to a vein as it will destroy/stop your heart/lungs when it reaches there . when injected into a artery in a limb you can lose that limb due to gangrene from the wide spread tissue damage as the artery spreads the venom quickly thru out the limb .
It's all depends on the where on the body the bite is . You can die very quickly with anti-venom no help at all if the bite is in the wrong place (or in Boyd's case the right place )
Boyd walked away thinking an " Eye For An Eye "
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

Without anti-venom not everyone dies of rattlesnake bite, and those who have been bitten before develope a certain degree of tolerance/immunity. Even if his prior bites were from milked snakes, he probably got some lesser amount of venom.
Most deaths from rattler bites are to those who are weak: kids, seniors, and the sick.

Healthy adults rarely die....unless the bite is in a critical area.
post #1877 of 3223
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

That would have been an interesting turn.

However, from Boyd's POV, this deadly duet was a menace...a threat to his control of the town and his wallet.
This threat was so dire, Boyd went with the nuclear response.
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Most deaths from rattler bites are to those who are weak: kids, seniors, and the sick.

Healthy adults rarely die....unless the bite is in a critical area.

It depends on the snake, doesn't it? Its been years since I really knew anything about rattlers, but I seem to remember one type is extermely dangerous, Copperhead, maybe? Couldn't tell what kind of rattlesnake Billy had.
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Most deaths from rattler bites are to those who are weak: kids, seniors, and the sick.

Healthy adults rarely die....unless the bite is in a critical area.
Most bites are survivable but most everyone who lives has some form of tissue damage , some very severe . I know of a healthy 19 year old here local area that lost most of his hand & he was airlifted to a ER in 20 minutes of the bite , he was bit on the under side of the mid forearm area . The rattler that Boyd had in the box ,Boyd make sure to everyone that he had pointed out was wild local river bank snake , the longer a snake goes without striking the more potent it's venom is (think more concentration over time ) . Natures way of making sure that the hungry get fed 1st smile.gif
post #1879 of 3223
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post



It depends on the snake, doesn't it? Its been years since I really knew anything about rattlers, but I seem to remember one type is extermely dangerous, Copperhead, maybe? Couldn't tell what kind of rattlesnake Billy had.
a Cane rattler Boyd called it .
post #1880 of 3223
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post



It depends on the snake, doesn't it? Its been years since I really knew anything about rattlers, but I seem to remember one type is extermely dangerous, Copperhead, maybe? Couldn't tell what kind of rattlesnake Billy had.
This is the copperhead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix

IIRC, there are 3 other poisonous snakes in America that humans need to be wary of....
Rattlesnake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattlesnake
Cottonmouth (aka Water Moccasin): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorus
Coral Snake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_snake
post #1881 of 3223
Lots of ifs with a rattler bite. The rattler doesn't always deliver a lot of venom. As was mentioned above, where is the bite. And do you have anti-venom.

A little girl in Tucson was bitten a few years back and got a lot of venom pumped into her. They used a ton of anti-venom and she was alright. I don't know if there was much necrosis of the area where she was bitten or not.
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

This is the copperhead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix

IIRC, there are 3 other poisonous snakes in America that humans need to be wary of....
Rattlesnake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattlesnake
Cottonmouth (aka Water Moccasin): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorus
Coral Snake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_snake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus_horridus

http://www.squidoo.com/dangerous-snakes-of-north-america
post #1883 of 3223
Certainly the Cane Rattler looks different than the ones out West.

When I lived in Phoenix as a kid, I nearly stepped on one.
I was out rabbit hunting with my handy-dandy little Ruger 22 and thought I saw one about 50 yards away in some brush.
Starting stalking and was extremely focused on the potential bunny....and NOT watching the ground in front of me.
Well, you can guess where this story goes....

Yup, never saw the dude.
But SURE as hell heard him!eek.gif

5 ft. up and 10 ft. back...all in one movement.
Fortunately, I had a strong heart then....biggrin.gif
post #1884 of 3223
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I noticed that Boyd smirked when the sister yelled out " Call a Ambulance ! "
that spoke volumes to me ,

1st That she didn't have anti-venom

2nd She didn't call out to her Lord to save him

Good catch. I think your analysis is spot on. When I suggested that the sister might have anti-venom, I had completely forgotten her panicky request to "Call an ambulance." That's the beauty of Justified's spare writing. With nothing more than a three word line delivered in a panic-stricken tone, the writers told us all we needed to know about the sister. Elmore himself couldn't have handled it better.smile.gif
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Originally Posted by oink View Post


I was out rabbit hunting with my handy-dandy little Ruger 22

You'll shoot your eye out with that thing!
post #1886 of 3223
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Good catch. I think your analysis is spot on. When I suggested that the sister might have anti-venom, I had completely forgotten her panicky request to "Call an ambulance." That's the beauty of Justified's spare writing. With nothing more than a three word line delivered in a panic-stricken tone, the writers told us all we needed to know about the sister. Elmore himself couldn't have handled it better.smile.gif
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

You'll shoot your eye out with that thing!
Amazingly, I didn't....biggrin.gif
post #1887 of 3223
Finally caught up on my episodes. Not sure why they made such a big deal about her milking the snales. Just because you milk them doesn't make them any less inclined to bite you. It doesn't make them docile, so he still was able to hold them without them biting him, which is a feat in itself. I guess the only revelation is the comment he made that he got bit twice betore and survived.

I am really, really enjoyng the story line of the bag in the wall. Not so much around the church and Boyd, that seems a little boring to me. The rest, great start to a new season.
post #1888 of 3223
Having the two storylines is just plain good writing. By design the Raylan(ha!) mystery plotline is developing slowly, the show only offerring bits and pieces of where they are going to keep us intrigued. Having Boyd's storyline move more rapidly satisfies the viewer need to have plotpoints resolved while the overall story arc develops.It allows for self contained episodes while at the same time slowly revealing the overall season mystery.. Going by past experience, once the writers have us hooked on both plotlines the roles will be reversed. As Raylon's arc speeds up Boyd's will slow down, until they both come together towards the end. Thats how I see it anyways.
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Exercising done. Now I'm ready for tonight's episode tongue.gif
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Exercising done. Now I'm ready for tonight's episode tongue.gif
Washing beer stein...
Now I AM ready for tonite's episode.wink.gif
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