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OH, another great exchange:

"You think I'm playing you?"
"I don't know. With my track record lately I probably couldn't tell."

I'm going to count to 1.
post #2072 of 2546
"I'm going to keep twisting until it breaks, so you might as well enjoy it."
post #2073 of 2546
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Everybody catch who cowrote the story?. I've read me some EL. Methinks it might be time to read some more.
Whatever you do, DON'T read EL's latest book: Raylan.
It was released right before last season's start.
Unfortunately, for those who read it (me and some others around here), it completely telegraphed last season's plot....mad.gif
Except for one storyline involving a young lady by the name of Jackie Nevada (who was introduced last night rolleyes.gif).
post #2074 of 2546
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Whatever you do, DON'T read EL's latest book: Raylan.
It was released right before last season's start.
Unfortunately, for those who read it (me and some others around here), it completely telegraphed last season's plot....mad.gif
Except for one storyline involving a young lady by the name of Jackie Nevada (who was introduced last night rolleyes.gif).

Whoa, thanks.Will stay away.smile.gif
post #2075 of 2546
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Whoa, thanks.Will stay away.smile.gif
Wait until AFTER this season has concluded before reading Raylan.wink.gif
post #2076 of 2546
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Except for one storyline involving a young lady by the name of Jackie Nevada (who was introduced last night rolleyes.gif).

Good to know - was wondering if he hit it or not and if we’d see her again. Seemed like too much interaction for just one episode. Also loved the conversation b/t Raylan and Art when she was in the bathroom.
post #2077 of 2546
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Wait until AFTER this season has concluded before reading Raylan.wink.gif

Yeah - I have a copy sitting on my book shelf and I've been saving it until the end of the season. Also I've been trying to make my way through "David Copperfield" and have set an end of February deadline to complete. There's quite a contrast in writing styles - but Dickens and Leonard are both great at what they do. I've read most of EL's books - his writing is very lean and fluid with outstanding dialog - the show does a very nice job of capturing EL's witty and pungent conversations between characters.
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This week's show was another great justified episode. I loved the crazy killer escapee, Jodi, and fully expected things to end as badly for him as they did. I enjoyed how Raylan baited Jodi into drawing on him by telling Jodi he could see in his face that he was ready to surrender. "I'll count to one," indeed.smile.gif Does anybody else think that the power brokers who tried to intimidate Boyd into doing their bidding seriously underestimated the intelligence and resourcefulness of their target?
post #2079 of 2546
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Does anybody else think that the power brokers who tried to intimidate Boyd into doing their bidding seriously underestimated the intelligence and resourcefulness of their target?

Yup.
post #2080 of 2546
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This week's show was another great justified episode. I loved the crazy killer escapee, Jodi, and fully expected things to end as badly for him as they did. I enjoyed how Raylan baited Jodi into drawing on him by telling Jodi he could see in his face that he was ready to surrender. "I'll count to one," indeed.smile.gif Does anybody else think that the power brokers who tried to intimidate Boyd into doing their bidding seriously underestimated the intelligence and resourcefulness of their target?

I think the power brokers will have their hands full before the end of the season. There was a certain look on Boyd's face when they mentioned that his Daddy had been in their pocket for a long time that spoke of a slow(or maybe fast) burn already planning revenge. These guys were very condescending and I suspect Boyd will extract appropriate retribution.
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Also loved the conversation b/t Raylan and Art when she was in the bathroom.
Classic.smile.gif

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- his writing is very lean and fluid with outstanding dialog - the show does a very nice job of capturing EL's witty and pungent conversations between characters.
Agreed.
Although EL doesn't write the scripts, much of his dialog makes it to the screen anyway.

His books have more intricate plotting, due to the fact books have the format for it while TV series have to be condensed for time's sake.
One of the great things in his books are the wicked Twists that cause the reader to say out loud "Oh Sh_t!"biggrin.gif

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Does anybody else think that the power brokers who tried to intimidate Boyd into doing their bidding seriously underestimated the intelligence and resourcefulness of their target?
LOL, yeah, I think they are going to seriously regret giving Boyd a toehold into their world.wink.gif
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I replayed the bar scene several times as its been a long wait for the show to live up to its name.
post #2083 of 2546
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Does anybody else think that the power brokers who tried to intimidate Boyd into doing their bidding seriously underestimated the intelligence and resourcefulness of their target?

Of course they did smile.gif I think I actually rubbed my hands together in glee, this is going to be so good. I loved Boyd suggesting another word, which was in fact more accurate. If you watched the previews, Boyd identified himself as an outlaw. I liked that, the term has a larger meaning, cultural, than "criminal" or some such.
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Terrific as usual and now with the added beauty of Shelley Hennig!  Lots of good quotes and byplay as always.  And, predictable or not, you just had to enjoy Jodi getting his reward in the bar as Raylan toyed with him.

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Terrific as usual and now with the added beauty of Shelley Hennig!  Lots of good quotes and byplay as always.  And, predictable or not, you just had to enjoy Jodi getting his reward in the bar as Raylan toyed with him.
He just wasn't too bright, was he?biggrin.gif
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He just wasn't too bright, was he?biggrin.gif

lol! biggrin.gif

Edit: I'm drunk


*more alcohol was consumed after the picture was taken
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Sir, you have a fine taste for life's most important experiences.....tongue.gif
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He certainly does...smile.gif
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YC, that looks fantastic!


Great episode, as usual.

I love the classic gunfight scene. A hat tip to all the great peace keepers. The righteous vs the evil-- the Marshall Dilions of the world. To all of those good guys with the quicker draw. cool.gif cheers!
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YC, that looks fantastic!


Great episode, as usual.

I love the classic gunfight scene. A hat tip to all the great peace keepers. The righteous vs the evil-- the Marshall Dilions of the world. To all of those good guys with the quicker draw. cool.gif cheers!

Except of course Raylan clearly baited the guy to draw, knowing he'd have no chance. Matt Dillon with a twist, which is what makes the character so interesting.
post #2091 of 2546

I should have been watching Secret Circle. Hope Ms. Nevada sticks around.

 

I think Boyd is in a bit of a corner here. With Wynn and his brother plotting secretly, and Ellen May working with the sheriff, the power brokers circling publicly, and Raylan hating his guts, I think his only play is to find Drew first. I just don't think he knows how important that is.

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Except of course Raylan clearly baited the guy to draw, knowing he'd have no chance.
Raylan had had enough with this guy.
He killed cops and that is a "hanging offense."

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I think Boyd is in a bit of a corner here. With Wynn and his brother plotting secretly, and Ellen May working with the sheriff, the power brokers circling publicly, and Raylan hating his guts, I think his only play is to find Drew first. I just don't think he knows how important that is.
I wouldn't underestimate ol' Boyd too much.wink.gif
post #2093 of 2546
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Except of course Raylan clearly baited the guy to draw, knowing he'd have no chance. Matt Dillon with a twist, which is what makes the character so interesting.

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Raylan had had enough with this guy.
He killed cops and that is a "hanging offense.")

True. It seemed to me that Raylan decided that if the crazy b**tard was willing to commit suicide by cop, far be it for Raylan to do anything to dissuade him.smile.gif
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Let me clarify. It wasn't a negative comment about Raylan, which is why I said its what makes him interesting. Remember the Gunsmoke opening, with the bad guy shooting first? Raylan would shake his head at that. He's a hero, but he isn't my daddy's idea of a marshal smile.gif
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True. It seemed to me that Raylan decided that if the crazy b**tard was willing to commit suicide by cop, far be it for Raylan to do anything to dissuade him.smile.gif
As you know (being a fellow EL junkie wink.gif), Raylan's motivations are not always spelled out.
In the books, a lot of what is going on in his head is left to the reader to infer.

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He's a hero, but he isn't my daddy's idea of a marshal smile.gif
Exactly....and that's the appeal.cool.gif
post #2096 of 2546
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Let me clarify. It wasn't a negative comment about Raylan, which is why I said its what makes him interesting. Remember the Gunsmoke opening, with the bad guy shooting first? Raylan would shake his head at that. He's a hero, but he isn't my daddy's idea of a marshal smile.gif

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Exactly....and that's the appeal.cool.gif

Raylan, like every Elmore Leonard character, has a streak of sociopathy in him. It's just that some Leonard characters, such as the guy Raylan helped along to his just reward in the latest episode, are even more sociopathic than Leonard's anti-heroes.
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Raylan, like every Elmore Leonard character, has a streak of sociopathy in him. It's just that some Leonard characters, such as the guy Raylan helped along to his just reward in the latest episode, are even more sociopathic than Leonard's anti-heroes.

Well put.
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Raylan, like every Elmore Leonard character, has a streak of sociopathy in him. It's just that some Leonard characters, such as the guy Raylan helped along to his just reward in the latest episode, are even more sociopathic than Leonard's anti-heroes.
Agreed.
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For those Elmore Leonard fans, who just can't get enough. Here's a little piece from today's NYT's OpEd page.


For Pope: A Dude Like Dad

By ELMORE LEONARD
BLOOMFIELD VILLAGE, Mich.

WHEN I was a boy, around the time Pope Pius XI died, in 1939, I remember my dad saying he could be the next pope if he got the votes. He said there were no rules saying the pope had to come out of the cardinal pool, or be a bishop or priest of some kind; he only had to be a Catholic — male, of course — of good standing in the church, to be elected.

My mother, Flora, normally a kind soul, would tell Elmore Sr., “Shush, you could never in the world be the pope.” It was the only subject I remember them arguing about.

I grew up Catholic, went to Mass every day in grade school and high school; was taught by the Jesuits; spent two and a half years in the Navy during the war; returned, and was graduated from another Jesuit school, the University of Detroit. I even taught catechism in the ’60s, although I just told stories for the most part.

My dad might have been qualified to be pope. He worked for General Motors.

I’ve wondered what papal-type name my dad would have chosen. No doubt it would be one with a zip in the sound of it. My dad was a dude, and I could not see him wearing a miter, that high, pointed hat that’s so popular with bishops, or carrying the gold crosier that indicates he’s the shepherd of his flock, over one billion Catholics.

My dad would have introduced change, brought the church up to date and the clergy out of their traditional raiment, and done away with the smoke signals that indicate whether the cardinals have selected the next pope or are still working on it. Why not pick up the phone and tell us where they stand?

My dad’s brother Urban might have been named for a pope. My only hope is that it wasn’t Urban VI, the last pope to be chosen from outside the College of Cardinals. Urban came along in 1378. He was so unpleasant that French cardinals split off and elected their own rival pope, who excommunicated him. The 14th century must have been a wild time in papal history.

My dad was technically right: the man selected as the next pope need not be a member of the clergy, though he would have to be ordained a priest and the bishop of Rome upon election. The church needs, I believe, someone like John XXIII, whose example of humility opened the door to a fresh way of thinking.

The Vatican is an old boys’ club. Tradition going all the way back to Peter says it’s a man’s job. But wouldn’t a woman, one who isn’t the least bit timid, be interesting in the role? Like a cool black nun who comes to the throne after 30 years doing God’s work with little recognition. She’d be the first pope in heels. Maybe from the Franciscan Handmaids of the Most Pure Heart of Mary, in Harlem — the real Sister Act. Get a singing, swinging sister to jazz up St. Peter’s Basilica. I guarantee people would tune in.

In my novel “City Primeval,” a female lawyer has framed on her wall a quotation from Charlotte Whitton, who twice was the mayor of Ottawa, in the 1950s and ’60s, that states:

“Whatever women do, they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.”

Nuns who are friends of mine know this.

POPE BENEDICT XVI resigned because he lacked the strength to continue at his age, 85. I’m a couple of years older, and still banging out novels because I love doing it. Doesn’t Benedict still love being the pope?

What will become of him once he’s free to be himself?

We are told he plans to take it easy for a while at Castel Gandolfo, his summer retreat, and then settle into a four-story convent in Vatican City, previously occupied by cloistered nuns. Maybe get around the ban on pets in the Vatican. Benedict is well-known as a cat lover. Whether he would have to change the litter box is not known.

We don’t know if Benedict plans to advise the new pope on how to maintain his authority, so that factions loyal to each man don’t start duking it out. People get nervous when you have more than one pope.

When Celestine V resigned, some 700 years ago, his successor, Boniface VIII, had him imprisoned as he was about to leave for Greece. Celestine died in captivity in 1296, at the age of 81, but was declared a saint in 1313. So maybe stepping down was worth it.

I doubt Benedict is thinking about canonization, like the pope he followed, John Paul II, who is called “blessed,” which in the Roman Catholic Church is the first step toward sainthood. He’s probably not thinking about anything but retirement, a chance to pray all day and read the paper.

But people are asking: What if he gets his second wind?

I think my dad would wonder. I can hear him — presumed now to be in heaven — say to my mother, as he hands her a bourbon on the rocks with a twist, my mother never having had more than one:

“You see, we’re gonna have two popes at the same time — both infallible — and you don’t think there’s gonna be trouble?”

You know how she answers.

My mom tells him, “Shush.”

A writer of many novels, including, most recently, “Raylan,” and of short stories and screenplays.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/opinion/sunday/for-pope-a-dude-like-dad.html
post #2100 of 2546
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Classic.smile.gif
Agreed.
Although EL doesn't write the scripts, much of his dialog makes it to the screen anyway.

The dialog in this episode seemed more highly stylized than usual. Then I went back to the opening credits and saw who had the [co]writing credit: EL. No wonder.

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He [Jodi] just wasn't too bright, was he?biggrin.gif

Jodi's buddy/accomplice (the guy from 'Mad Men') called him a "genius". tongue.gif It seemed like he was just a bit too reckless to have a high chance at survival; probably hopped up on cocain (we saw his buddy partaking in the bathroom). Liked how they've continued to recall that plotline from the opening episode. Also funny was the look on Jackie Nevada's face after Raylan plugged Jodi: she was clearly turned on. Looks like Raylan's kind of girl. biggrin.gif

Also interesting was that shot of Raylan as the motel scene finished out with Jackie stripping for her shower in the background. He said to Art on the phone that "she wouldn't be interested in an old fart like him". And the final shot of the scene had him slumping on the edge of the bed, gray streaks clearly visible in his hair and weighted down with the burden of yet another successful gunfight. Suddenly realizing how tired he was. Nice touch.
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