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post #211 of 3237
Good stuff.
Really enjoyed tonight's episode.
post #212 of 3237
With all the DEADWOOD alum talk, I was more surprised to see William Ragsdale on screen again. Been a while. Poor Charlie!!
post #213 of 3237
Heh. When I first recognized him a few weeks back, I immediately thought of Herman from "Herman's Head".
post #214 of 3237
Episode Date Total HH A18-49
__#__ Aired Millions ---- ----
1-01 03/16/10 4.151 2.6/5 1.5/5
1-02 03/23/10 3.536 2.2/4 1.4/4
1-03 03/30/10 2.308 1.4/2 0.9/3
1-04 04/06/10 2.100 1.4/2 0.9/2
1-05 04/13/10 2.407 1.5/3 0.9/3
1-06 04/20/10 2.058 1.3/2 0.8/2
1-07 04/27/10 2.257 1.3/2 0.8/2
1-08 05/04/10 2.456 1.6/3 0.9/3
1-09 05/11/10 2.088 1.3/2 0.8/2
post #215 of 3237
Just caught up with my TiVoed episodes and this thread, and was surprised no one connected the hit man writing the book of rules with Swag (aka Ryan's Rules), one of my favorite Elmore Leonard books (which I read twice because they tricked me with the title change).

I'm loving it.
post #216 of 3237
I'm still liking it, after watching Deadwood for 36(37) straight weeks on Sunday nights on Directv, this show seems perfect for Olyphant. All we need is Al Swearengen to make an appearance.

I'm pleasantly surprised at how well I like this show, was very glad it has already been renewed for another season. I missed Ava this week, but looks like she'll be back front and center next week.
post #217 of 3237
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

I missed Ava this week, but looks like she'll be back front and center next week.

Me too.
post #218 of 3237
I liked this week's show, too. One scene that showed us Raylan's vulnerability was very effective, I thought. I felt sorry for Raylan when his ex wife told him that her new husband was always optimistic, she couldn't stand that Raylan had never been, and she loved the new guy, despite his weaknesses. Somehow, how she said it didn't seem unkind because it was so truthful. Watching Raylan watching the doofus new husband being lovingly greeted at his front door by Raylan's ex wife, after Raylan has helped the new husband extricate himself from the clutches of the loan sharks, was moving on a couple of levels.

I loved the scene in which the dirtbags took each other out when the hired muscle learned that his employer was accepting land for the debt so there would be no immediate cash for the muscle. That was classic Elmore Leonard.

I think that Justified is a great series and am delighted that it was renewed. Considering its falling numbers, the network suits apparently think that Justified has something, too.
post #219 of 3237
Just got back from a business trip and watched this one last night. Good ep. The ex-wife prefers the light weight developer for his faults and ambition, but has no compunction leaning on the talents and character of Raylen when the chips are down. An element that Parker uses with some of his characters as well. Seems unfair and I'd be tempted to tell her to p*ss up a rope in future...we'll see. I'm thinking he's a "for better or worse" kind of guy and won't change even though it's much worse.

The writers are being clever in maintaining the level of violence and yet not making Raylen responsible for more mayhem...letting him maintain a sort of realistic standing with the US Marshalls. If he popped someone every week, he'd be on the beach in short order.
post #220 of 3237
I've been watching and enjoying it.
post #221 of 3237
Another good episode. I liked the scenes in the forest with Boyd.
Raylan doesn't mind the pot so it seems. It was nice of him to pay for that inventory he broke. Can't wait for next week's.
post #222 of 3237
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Originally Posted by AAF View Post

Get a little Deadwood closure one actor at a time.


If I can quote myself.

Another great "Deadwood" episode.

Edit: Took a while to dig up his name, not listed in the IMDB credits for the episode. Virgil (the guy after the crazy judge) aka Sean Bridgers. He played Johnny Burns, one of Swearengen's crew.
post #223 of 3237
Thanks AAF, I recognized that guy was from Deadwood, just couldn't remember his character name. I've enjoyed the mini reunion of sorts of the Deadwood gang. I thought for a split second the chick playing Virgil's ex-wife was Trixie. lol
post #224 of 3237
Trixie is on Caprica.
post #225 of 3237
No offense but I wish the Deadwood references would just die already. It seems like Deadwood, Lost and a few other fanatical shows always find their way on other show threads like a lingering annoying allergy. There are always degrees of separation for anything. I get itthey did the same thing in "insert tired show"he was in "that" show---etc.

That said Justified has developed into a fine show with excellent acting and crisp refreshing dialog.

Last night was another great episodeactually, it's been a great week for television with The Pacific ending spectacular mini series - and-- 24 did a one-eighty mid season and is ending its run on an entertaining note.
post #226 of 3237
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

No offense but I wish the Deadwood references would just die already. It seems like Deadwood, Lost and a few other fanatical shows always find their way on other show threads like a lingering annoying allergy. There are always degrees of separation for anything. I get itthey did the same thing in "insert tired show"he was in "that" show---etc.

Ah, time for a rant.
I don't mind referencing other characters an actor has played as an aside within a post. That's an entertaining diversion on a forum dedicated to TV programming. What I do mind is when people use the old character's name instead of the name of their new character in a post as if everyone reading it will just know who they were, as a "wink" to others that may belong to their little secret club or as a way of demonstrating the depth of their show-biz knowledge. Or even worse, referring to a character by some other character's name who merely resembles the current actor (yes, I've even seen that recently). It's not cute, it's not clever; it's insufferable, lazy (If you don't remember a character's name, look it up! That's what IMDB and show websites are for.) and kind of rude. [/rant]
post #227 of 3237
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

No offense but I wish the Deadwood references would just die already

Not going to happen. At least as long as alums from Deadwood keep showing up on Justified.
post #228 of 3237
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

No offense but I wish the Deadwood references would just die already.

No offense taken. But wishing your views on other people is a losing proposition.

Art
post #229 of 3237
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No offense taken. But wishing your views on other people is a losing proposition.

Art

I know... but one can wish... or rant... every now and then.
post #230 of 3237
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

No offense but I wish the Deadwood references would just die already. It seems like Deadwood, Lost and a few other fanatical shows always find their way on other show threads like a lingering annoying allergy. There are always degrees of separation for anything. I get itthey did the same thing in "insert tired show"he was in "that" show---etc.

That said Justified has developed into a fine show with excellent acting and crisp refreshing dialog.

Last night was another great episodeactually, it's been a great week for television with The Pacific ending spectacular mini series - and-- 24 did a one-eighty mid season and is ending its run on an entertaining note.

Had I mentioned how a lot of Justified has reminded me of a lot of Deadwood? If not, wait on it, it's sure to happen again I have not yet seen this week's Justified episode but have been really enjoying the show. Speaking of actors who were in other shows, I just finished watching the last two seasons of the wonderful, The Shield, on Netflix streaming. Walton Goggins, who plays Ava Crowder's scary brother in law on Justified, costarred in The Shield and was just as good there as he has been in Justified.

I dropped my HBO and Showtime subscriptions several months ago because my Netflix and Blockbuster in store subscriptions have left me little time for the premium channels. I was sorry to have missed The Pacific and am looking forward to seeing it when it is released on BD. I agree that 24 has finally hit its stride again. This week's show was one of the series' all time best.
post #231 of 3237
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... Speaking of actors who were in other shows, I just finished watching the last two seasons of the wonderful, The Shield, on Netflix streaming. Walton Goggins, who plays Ava Crowder's scary brother in law on Justified, costarred in The Shield and was just as good there as he has been in Justified.

The Shield was an awesome series. That fired on all cylinders. Before Justified premiered and they were running the quick teasers, Walton Goggins was the hook that got me to check it out. Elmore Leonard, Timothy Olyphantwere all icing on the cake.
post #232 of 3237
Episode Date Total HH A18-49
__#__ Aired Millions ---- ----
1-01 03/16/10 4.151 2.6/5 1.5/5
1-02 03/23/10 3.536 2.2/4 1.4/4
1-03 03/30/10 2.308 1.4/2 0.9/3
1-04 04/06/10 2.100 1.4/2 0.9/2
1-05 04/13/10 2.407 1.5/3 0.9/3
1-06 04/20/10 2.058 1.3/2 0.8/2
1-07 04/27/10 2.257 1.3/2 0.8/2
1-08 05/04/10 2.456 1.6/3 0.9/3
1-09 05/11/10 2.088 1.3/2 0.8/2
1-10 05/18/10 2.082 1.3/2 0.8/2
post #233 of 3237
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

The Shield was an awesome series. That fired on all cylinders. Before Justified premiered and they were running the quick teasers, Walton Goggins was the hook that got me to check it out. Elmore Leonard, Timothy Olyphantwere all icing on the cake.

I'm not sure that Justified has yet reached The Shield's towering heights, although it is off to a good start. I thought that Michael Chiklis, as Vic Mackey, created one of the most charismatic, interesting, and ambiguous characters in the history of television. The only other performers and characters they created I would place in that class, in recent years anyway, would be James Gandolfini, as Tony Soprano, and, naturally, Ian McShane, as Al Swearengen of Deadwood fame.
post #234 of 3237
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

It's not cute, it's not clever; it's insufferable, lazy (If you don't remember a character's name, look it up! That's what IMDB and show websites are for.) and kind of rude. [/rant]

No you're wrong. It is cute and it is clever.

If you feel left out by not catching a reference, go look it up on IMDB or Wikipedia.

The more you know ...

the more pop culturally aware you'll be.
post #235 of 3237
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I'm not sure that Justified has yet reached The Shield's towering heights, although it is off to a good start. I thought that Michael Chiklis, as Vic Mackey, created one of the most charismatic, interesting, and ambiguous characters in the history of television. The only other performers and characters they created I would place in that class, in recent years anyway, would be James Gandolfini, as Tony Soprano, and, naturally, Ian McShane, as Al Swearengen of Deadwood fame.

Couldn't agree more but not with the Deadwood reference, simply because I haven't (yet?) seen it, hence the underlying reason for the original rant.
post #236 of 3237
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I'm not sure that Justified has yet reached The Shield's towering heights, although it is off to a good start. I thought that Michael Chiklis, as Vic Mackey, created one of the most charismatic, interesting, and ambiguous characters in the history of television.

I arrived late to the first season of The Shield so never started watching it, but thanks to Amazon giving the complete series away for a bargain $50 (in an awkward but very slick collector book case), I'm looking forward to starting on it during the Summer TV drought.

I'll probably be still catching up with Justified at that point too.
post #237 of 3237
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Couldn’t agree more… but not with the Deadwood reference, simply because I haven’t (yet?) seen it, hence the underlying reason for the original rant.

THEN GO GET DEADWOOD! You will love it!

Olyphant's Givens to Walton Goggins' Boyd Crowder harkens to his role of Seth Bullock to McShane's Al Swearengen. Of course different times and stories and the foils are different temperaments but inside I don't think they are that much different even though Swearengen has an endearing quality that Crowder doesn't seem to have because we can't tell yet what really is in his heart like we could with Swearengen.

But to many I have talked to about the character of Givens, if you are a fan of Deadwood you could rightfully say Olyphant's Raylan Givens is Seth Bullock in the 21st Century. I would imagine the opposite is true for those who have only seen Justified when they see Olyphant's Bullock, Givens in the 19th Century. Both characters seem to be cut from the same cloth. And both wear good looking hats! And equally gifted with a gun! If Givens and Bullock drew on each other, both would be dead, IMO.
post #238 of 3237
Agreeing with most of the sentiments here, regarding Deadwood. Watching Raylan and Boyd go "toe to toe" in their staredowns and conversations reminds me so much of the Deadwood Seth and Al scenes. The intensity provided by the actors, and more importantly, all of the unspoken and suspenseful "background conversations" going on between the two, set up by the writers, is just excellent.

My wife is regretting (just a bit) not watching Deadwood with me - she just couldn't get past all of the profanity. She definitely is loving Justified as much as I am.

Cliff
post #239 of 3237
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My wife is regretting (just a bit) not watching Deadwood with me - she just couldn't get past all of the profanity. She definitely is loving Justified as much as I am.

Cliff

Same situation with my wife. She really likes Olyphant and is now interested in Deadwood, but everytime she tried to watch it in the past, she ended up leaving. She said, they really didn't talk like that in the Old West. I disagree. I've been in mostly male backwoods settings and potty mouth was definitely on the language menu.
post #240 of 3237
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My wife is regretting (just a bit) not watching Deadwood with me - she just couldn't get past all of the profanity. She definitely is loving Justified as much as I am.

Cliff

You must mean she had a problem with the word cocksucker? Was there ever a statistic on how many times that word was said?
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