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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post


Both Boyd and Eva jumped and made a squeal when Raylan shot the buttonman. Boyd seemed to know before Raylan did that he was a hit man. He didn't seem to know it while being led out in handcuffs by him.

Pretty sure Boyd knew the guy was the hitman sent by Theo. Wouldn't Boyd know all Shelby's deputies?
post #2132 of 3229
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Pretty sure Boyd knew the guy was the hitman sent by Theo. Wouldn't Boyd know all Shelby's deputies?

Precisely
I was listening for a clever tell from Boyd to Raylan that only the two would know but the writers couldn't think of one either
post #2133 of 3229
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

Johnny was the one sending him the texts about Ellen Mae and got him to leave the bribe there. They showed Johnny at the field breaking and throwing away the cell phone he was sending Colt the texts from after he left the money in the shed. That was the proof Johnny needed that Colt didn't kill her.

Ha. Oh my! Where was my head? tongue.gif

Now I remember that. You're right, and thanks for the re-cap.
post #2134 of 3229
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post

I liked how Raylan "got something in his eye" while waiting for the elevator after hearing of Arlo's death. Oliphant's performance as Raylon is so subtle and perfect he's probably never going to get the credit he deserves.There's a lot going on behind the oh so cool exterior that is never overplayed, just hinted at.

I was thinking the same thing, especially after this episode. The scene with Arlo, Raylan saying something like "give me something, anything" was clearly a double meaning, and Tim's hopeful/sad facial expressions were perfect. Nice to see some film acting chops on a series.

This show has grown to be the best thing on commercial TV for me. The writers are on a roll this season, just firing on all cylinders, and the actors seem to get it, everyone on the same page.
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Definitely on par w/ Breaking Bad.
post #2136 of 3229
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Pretty sure Boyd knew the guy was the hitman sent by Theo. Wouldn't Boyd know all Shelby's deputies?

You would think. However, I didn't see any indication that Boyd thought the sheriff was bad. I know he would have tried to get Raylan to intervene. All Boyd talked about was that Raylan sent Shelby after him again and that Raylan would still be invited to the wedding. Plus both Boyd and Eva were shocked at the gunfight. And Boyd wouldn't have wanted Eva that close to the gunfight. She definitely was in danger where she was standing. Boyd didn't say anything afterwards. I think Boyd just figured it out quickly.
post #2137 of 3229
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Originally Posted by fjames View Post

I was thinking the same thing, especially after this episode. The scene with Arlo, Raylan saying something like "give me something, anything" was clearly a double meaning, and Tim's hopeful/sad facial expressions were perfect. Nice to see some film acting chops on a series.

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Agree fully. Oliphant kept the smart ass facade in place, with only a subtle hint on his face that he was asking for far more than just a name. The temptation to overplay it must have been strong-its the kind of scene that wins an emmy. But Oliphant kept it just the way Raylan would act, expecting the audience to be smart enough to get it. Very few actors could have done it so well.
post #2138 of 3229
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

What did Arlo say right before Raylan bent over and Arlo told him to go to hell? I thought he uttered a name, Taco Something?

I won't miss Arlo's comicly exaggerated accent (sheeut) that Yankee actors adopt for their southern characters.

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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

His last words were "Kiss my ass" Before that was inaudible, intentionally I think to make Rayland (sic) lean over close.

Didn't he say "come closer"?
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I thought it was interesting that the writers resisted the temptation to humanize Arlo, just a little, in his swan song scene. Once an a$$hole, always an a$$hole, right up to the end.

But I assumed Arlo would figure into the final reveal of Drew somehow. Sure didn't see him bowing out so soon. Who is this guy that all these people feel not only the need to kill him, but to keep his identity secret and kill anyone who might reveal who he is? That's why I can't see him being Shelby.
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The only person we've seen that has the power displayed by Drew, is Theo.
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Originally Posted by fjames View Post

The only person we've seen that has the power displayed by Drew, is Theo.

Except that Theo wants Drew dead (and doesn't know who he is either).

Of the regular or recurring characters we know of, I can't imagine who it could be. confused.gif
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Except that Theo wants Drew dead (and doesn't know who he is either).

All that can be factually said is that he's getting a lot of people killed. Big chess game maybe ...
post #2143 of 3229
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I thought it was interesting that the writers resisted the temptation to humanize Arlo, just a little, in his swan song scene. Once an a$$hole, always an a$$hole, right up to the end.

But I assumed Arlo would figure into the final reveal of Drew somehow. Sure didn't see him bowing out so soon. Who is this guy that all these people feel not only the need to kill him, but to keep his identity secret and kill anyone who might reveal who he is? That's why I can't see him being Shelby.

Yup, love the way they kept Arlo in character. Tough old basted, (sic) did himself well in his final fight too.

I've officially changed my mind. I say Drew Thompson is the gone bad lawman in jail. That's why he killed Raylan's daddy to keep him from talking, not that he would have. Raylan will realize that he caused his father's death by telling the ex-lawman that his father knew who Drew was and was offered a deal to talk.
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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

I've officially changed my mind. I say Drew Thompson is the gone bad lawman in jail. That's why he killed Raylan's daddy to keep him from talking, not that he would have. Raylan will realize that he caused his father's death by telling the ex-lawman that his father knew who Drew was and was offered a deal to talk.

Can't be. If you watched the preview for next week, it shows him addressing someone you can't see and he calls them Drew.
post #2145 of 3229
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Originally Posted by zeus33 View Post

Can't be. If you watched the preview for next week, it shows him addressing someone you can't see and he calls them Drew.

I dunno.. That could be a purposely misleading preview. I hadn't thought of it, but it makes sense. The big clue is after surviving all this time Arlo was killed right after the the ex sherriff found out he knew who drew thompson was. Good catch, philw...make that great catch cool.gif You might not be right, but its the best theory I've heard so far.
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

I still go back to that DQ. I was laughing pretty hard at that one. The Corleones tried to go legit with a casino. But a DQ?
Boyd is a perfect example of EL's typical criminal, he always reminds readers these guys are not half as smart as they, and we, think they are... wink.gif

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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Pretty sure Boyd knew the guy was the hitman sent by Theo. Wouldn't Boyd know all Shelby's deputies?
You would think; I took it Boyd didn't.

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Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

I was listening for a clever tell from Boyd to Raylan that only the two would know but the writers couldn't think of one either
Yeah, but they should have...
How about Boyd saying, in Raylan's presence, "Hey, have you met Shelby's new deputy?"
It would have gotten Raylan suspicious straight up.
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I dunno.. That could be a purposely misleading preview. I hadn't thought of it, but it makes sense. The big clue is after surviving all this time Arlo was killed right after the the ex sherriff found out he knew who drew thompson was. Good catch, philw...make that great catch cool.gif You might not be right, but its the best theory I've heard so far.

Previews are often deliberately misleading. Then again, it's only a theory based on what I've seen minus any previews. I think we'll all find out!
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post

. Oliphant kept the smart ass facade in place, with only a subtle hint on his face that he was asking for far more than just a name. The temptation to overplay it must have been strong-its the kind of scene that wins an emmy. But Oliphant kept it just the way Raylan would act, expecting the audience to be smart enough to get it. Very few actors could have done it so well.
+1

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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Who is this guy that all these people feel not only the need to kill him, but to keep his identity secret and kill anyone who might reveal who he is? That's why I can't see him being Shelby.
Good point.
I don't know of anyone revealed so far who warrants this kind of hunt or secret....
Art?

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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post

I dunno.. That could be a purposely misleading preview. I hadn't thought of it, but it makes sense. The big clue is after surviving all this time Arlo was killed right after the the ex sherriff found out he knew who drew thompson was. Good catch, philw...make that great catch cool.gif You might not be right, but its the best theory I've heard so far.
+2

Still, the guy was in jail...easy to dispose of him there.
How could he be a threat to Theo there?
post #2149 of 3229
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Boyd is a perfect example of EL's typical criminal, he always reminds readers these guys are not half as smart as they, and we, think they are... wink.gif
You would think; I took it Boyd didn't.
Yeah, but they should have...
How about Boyd saying, in Raylan's presence, "Hey, have you met Shelby's new deputy?"
It would have gotten Raylan suspicious straight up.

I don't know about EL's typical criminal, but years of gangster movies have taught me that when a crook starts talking about settling down and finally going legit, they're not long for this world. I've got a nagging worry about Boyd... Plus, any clue that the deputy wasn't real would have stepped all over the "I sure hope I was right about this" line.:)And speaking of the shootout, like I said about Matt Dillion...notice who drew and shot first? Course that might change if Lucas should happen to do a movie version.
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Superb episode - tried keeping track of the body count but lost it after the first 4 or 5. RIP to Raymond Barry for his excellent portrayal of Arlo from the very first episode. One of the best scripts for quotable lines:
1. Browning to Boyd - "you best be prepared for me to get inhospitable
2. Raylan (?) Which one of these coincidences is just a coincidence?"
3. Boyd to Raylan after he notices Ava's engagement ring - "As onerous as our relationship has been lately, Raylan, you're on the guest list."
4." Sit your white collar ass down"

Just finished watching the first season of "The Killing" so it was interesting to see Brent Sexton re-emerge as the incarcerated ex-deputy assigned to kill Arlo in the prison barbershop.
Edited by ggsantafe - 2/28/13 at 6:15am
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I took the DQ thing as showing Boyd (and the typical criminal) has his sights set much lower than a Hollywood trained viewer would anticipate.

I'm watching The Sopranos for the first time right now - just started season 5 I think. They're breaking arms over who mows whose lawn. They're taking a piece of the mowing as well. And these are captains. Whatever, they're making the same point - these guys aren't nearly as glamorous and big-time as people like to think.

I felt so sorry for Boyd - a few hundred grand and a DQ is his dream. On the other hand, if that's a legitimate dream, then it shows where he came from, which is even scarier (poor white trash wise.)
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I don't know about EL's typical criminal,
I have read all of his books, with the exception of his westerns....just not into the genre.

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but years of gangster movies have taught me that when a crook starts talking about settling down and finally going legit, they're not long for this world. I've got a nagging worry about Boyd.
Unless WG wants to move to something else (God, I hope not), Boyd will be there.
His departure would be a great loss to the series.

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Originally Posted by fjames View Post

I took the DQ thing as showing Boyd (and the typical criminal) has his sights set much lower than a Hollywood trained viewer would anticipate.
these guys aren't nearly as glamorous and big-time as people like to think.
You are absolutely right.
Hollywood portrays these guys as Lex Luthors or Hans Grubers...they're not.

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On the other hand, if that's a legitimate dream, then it shows where he came from, which is even scarier (poor white trash wise.)
Sure he does.
Look at who his Daddy was....
post #2153 of 3229
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Originally Posted by jabbathespud View Post

My guess for Drew is Shelby (the Sheriff).

That was my thought as well after the last episode.
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Originally Posted by zeus33 View Post


Didn't he say "come closer"?

I'll go with that.
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Pretty sure Boyd knew the guy was the hitman sent by Theo. Wouldn't Boyd know all Shelby's deputies?

I've watched it again and Boyd did not know. Eva came out first before Boyd came and said "I should have known." meaning that Raylan was behind Boyd's arrest. Boyd them came out and asked why did Raylan have Shelby bring him in again. Boyd and Eva were surprised at the shootout. They didn't know.
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Originally Posted by daryl zero View Post

I've watched it again and Boyd did not know. Eva came out first before Boyd came and said "I should have known." meaning that Raylan was behind Boyd's arrest. Boyd them came out and asked why did Raylan have Shelby bring him in again. Boyd and Eva were surprised at the shootout. They didn't know.

Yeah, I think you're right. But Boyd should have known.
post #2157 of 3229
Re: Dairy Queen:
http://articles.philly.com/1986-07-05/news/26097419_1_drug-overdoses-drug-dealers-informant

Re: who is Drew Thompson, I found this book on Amazon- The Bluegrass Conspiracy: An Inside Story of Power, Greed, Drugs and Murder by Sally Denton. a true story about Drew Thornton who parachuted to his death in 1985.
Recall the very first scene in Season 4 Episode 1.
post #2158 of 3229
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Originally Posted by Plasmacat View Post

Re: Dairy Queen:
http://articles.philly.com/1986-07-05/news/26097419_1_drug-overdoses-drug-dealers-informant

Re: who is Drew Thompson, I found this book on Amazon- The Bluegrass Conspiracy: An Inside Story of Power, Greed, Drugs and Murder by Sally Denton. a true story about Drew Thornton who parachuted to his death in 1985.
Recall the very first scene in Season 4 Episode 1.

I couldn't resist looking the book up. Very interesting. Could be considered a mild spoiler I suppose, if this season is based on the case...thanks for sharing the info.
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post



I couldn't resist looking the book up. Very interesting. Could be considered a mild spoiler I suppose, if this season is based on the case...thanks for sharing the info.
Here ya go, sports fans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_C._Thornton_II
post #2160 of 3229
Amazing episode. So much happened, and all of it excellent. Who could possibly not love this show?
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