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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Try to get your wife to understand...

post #302 of 3229
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There were a couple of forgettable earlier episodes but the season really picked up after the half way mark and I loved the contemporary western flourishes it sprinkles throughout. You can tell when a show realizes a greater ambition when the lead character isn't used as the crutch to prop up every episode. They really built up some complicated relationships towards the end ...

and then in tried and true fashion, killed nearly all of them!

With that house cleaning it does make me wonder who the main protagonists for next season will be. If Raylan is landlocked in Halran and they seemed to have killed most of the criminal element in one episode, who is left? Having all the bad guys keep moving to Harlan is going to look a bit silly in this show.

Looking forward to next season. I just hope they can keep the dialog sharp and the bad guys unconventional.

Have to give a shout to the Raylan/Boyd exchange in the cabin too. Pretty funny stuff in the middle of a gunfight.

"I'm Raylan Givens!"
"No, I'm Raylan Givens!"
post #303 of 3229
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

The very capable staff of writers has already proven that they can take that ball and run with it.

Pass on my kudos (for what they are worth), I thought "Hatless" was one of the best episodes. Some great moments in that episode with eloquent and memorable bad guys.
post #304 of 3229
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Pasties, you say? You could tell that from that distance? They sure looked a lot like nekkid bresticle parts to me. Dang, I guess it's time to upgrade my HDTV.

They were shiny red pasties.

Yep, you need a bigger TV, just for occasions like that.

Er ... and for sports and stuff too.
post #305 of 3229
+1 Ha!
post #306 of 3229
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

They were shiny red pasties.

Yep, you need a bigger TV, just for occasions like that.

Er ... and for sports and stuff too.

My Sony 34XBR910 is a pretty decent display (some say the best HDTV ever made). But it is on the smallish side and I sit about 10 feet away, so there's stuff I miss - but not because my TV can't resolve all the detail in an HD telecast. Anyway, my question is this: If a pasty is the exact same size as the areola it's covering and nearly the same color, from 20 feet away, is that chick not essentially topless? I mean, the entire breast surrounding those pasties was visible and I don't think I've seen that on a non-premium TV channel since a PBS broadcast of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" starring Diana Rigg & the Royal Shakespeare Company about 40 years ago. No pasties there; wood nymphs and forest fairies don't typically wear 'em.
post #307 of 3229
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Anyway, my question is this: If a pasty is the exact same size as the areola it's covering and nearly the same color, from 20 feet away, is that chick not essentially topless?

In the real world maybe, but in television it appears that breasts are not the issue, nipples are the real problem! As long as you can't see that area you can get away with it. Unless you are Janet Jackson and are wearing fancy, sun-shaped metal.

It is funny how shows will try and squeeze as much nudity as possible out of the breast area without allowing a nipple on screen. Justified did that in the scene with Raylan and Winona too. The sheet and camera was as close to the nipple limit as possible.

Er ... not that I freeze-framed the image to check, obviously.
post #308 of 3229
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...the nipple limit...

I'm going to steal that.
post #309 of 3229
As long as we are talking about great acting, don't overlook the performance of M C Gainey. This guy is a major character actor and as the head of the Crowder family, he is perfectly cast. I had seen him in small parts until he showed up in ABC's Lost a few years back. His performances are so seamless every character he plays is believable. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

I really like ensemble casts such as those in the Sopranos, Breaking Bad, the Shield, and now Justified. Without casting an A List leading actor (altho one could argue that Olyphant now is one) the series are so much more interesting because you never know who is going to survive from episode to episode. BTW if you missed Tim Olyphant in "Damages" where he played a creepy assassin, make it a point to see the DVD's of season #2.

Elmore Leonard is a genius and this program does justice to his writing talent.
post #310 of 3229
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Originally Posted by Leftcoastdave View Post

I really like ensemble casts such as those in the Sopranos, Breaking Bad, the Shield, and now Justified. Without casting an A List leading actor (altho one could argue that Olyphant now is one) the series are so much more interesting because you never know who is going to survive from episode to episode. BTW if you missed Tim Olyphant in "Damages" where he played a creepy assassin, make it a point to see the DVD's of season #2.

Elmore Leonard is a genius and this program does justice to his writing talent.

Well written shows with talented ensemble casts appeal to me, too. Another excellent example, in addition to the three you mentioned, is the show that got Olyphant recognized, Deadwood.

In addition to fine performances by everybody in its large cast, Justified's writers have wisely preserved in their scripts the, for lack of a better term, Elmore Leonard touch. There are no heroes, the villains are human beings nonetheless, and everybody is colorful and interesting. The violence is so well done that it is often funny and shocking at the same time. One of the best examples of that was the scene in the Fixer episode in which a slimeball debtor talked a violent psychopath into "practicing" their quick draws before confronting Raylan. The slimeball then shoots and kills the psychopath in cold blood. That was vintage Elmore Leonard.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

In the real world maybe, but in television it appears that breasts are not the issue, nipples are the real problem! As long as you can't see that area you can get away with it. Unless you are Janet Jackson and are wearing fancy, sun-shaped metal.

It is funny how shows will try and squeeze as much nudity as possible out of the breast area without allowing a nipple on screen. Justified did that in the scene with Raylan and Winona too. The sheet and camera was as close to the nipple limit as possible.

Er ... not that I freeze-framed the image to check, obviously.

Weird huh? In almost every US area, it's not the jiggly parts that are bad (otherwise, many, many men would also have to wear bras!), it's the areola of the breast (nipple and brownish area)

Here locally, they passed a law that pole dancers had to wear pasties. They all went to CLEAR ones (result - nothing). After two years they decided that they needed to change it to mean, "opaque" ones. Even then, they just cover the nipple. The rest is free to dangle.

I personally find this asinine. Men can have all their large, jiggly breast meat flopping around but if a flat chested girl takes her top off, she's committing a crime!!! I think it's a crime to see all that flabby man meat!!!
post #312 of 3229
**Not about the show Justified**

I'm really liking Timothy Olyphant these days. He's my '2010 favorite actor'.

This weekend I watched "The Crazies" (2010) and he was the lead star. Good movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455407/

2 weeks ago, I also caught him in the movie "A Perfect Getaway"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0971209/
Also a good movie.

Hope he gets more movies and TV series gigs. Good actor.
post #313 of 3229
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

**Not about the show Justified**

I'm really liking Timothy Olyphant these days. He's my '2010 favorite actor'.

This weekend I watched "The Crazies" (2010) and he was the lead star. Good movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455407/

2 weeks ago, I also caught him in the movie "A Perfect Getaway"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0971209/
Also a good movie.

Hope he gets more movies and TV series gigs. Good actor.

I agree with you on all counts. Olyphant is, indeed, a fine actor. I, too, enjoyed The Crazies and A Perfect Getaway, neither of which I had ever heard of until I picked them up at my neighborhood BB. I even liked the terminally silly Hitman because Olyphant was so much fun in it.
post #314 of 3229
TV Notes
'Lost' vet Jeremy Davies joins 'Justified'
By James Hibberd, The Hollywood Reporter - October 22nd, 2010

Exclusive: Lost physicist Jeremy Davies is joining FX's neo-Western Justified.

Davies is joining the show's season two cast in a heavily recurring role as
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a nemesis to Timothy Olyphant's U.S. Marshal Raylan Givens.


The setup is certainly intriguing:
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Davies plays "Dickie Bennett," the smartest of three brothers and a high school rival of Givens. Since Prohibition, the Bennett and Givens families have warred like the Hatfields and McCoys.

Dickie's family traffics in weed, for which Bennett spent time in prison. He still walks with a limp due to an altercation with Raylan on the baseball field when they were both 17.


Best known to TV fans from his role as ever-distracted physicist Daniel Faraday on Lost, the Untitled Entertainment-repped Davies has an impressive list of theatrical credits including Saving Private Ryan, Rescue Dawn and Solaris.

Justified makes its return in February with 13 episodes.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blo...es-joins-32047
post #315 of 3229
Cool!

Thanks for the posting :thumbup:
post #316 of 3229
The first I've heard of it, thanks! (Guess I'm NOT so up on the latest!) I know they're still tinkering with the 1st script, and start shooting in a few days; this year's going to be more heavily serialized from the get-go...
post #317 of 3229
Thanks, dad, for the heads up regarding Jeremy Davis joining the cast, as well as risking the ire of spoilerphobes who think preseason casting news will destroy their enjoyment of the show. Your courage is admirable.
post #318 of 3229
^^^ OK, you've scared me enough that I've posted spoilers to be safe and avoid the wrath of "Justified" fans.
post #319 of 3229
On a similar note, it was nice to see Tim Olyphant on The Office last night. I couldn't place his face at first (without the hat), and I kept coming up with Billy Bob Thornton, although I knew that wasn't it (too old, lol), but I finally got it in the end. Nice job too.
post #320 of 3229
Dang I love Justified.... an undiscovered gem.
post #321 of 3229
So what's going to happen with the actress that plays TOs ex. She's got a regular gig on The Defenders (which I kind of enjoy).
post #322 of 3229
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

Dang I love Justified.... an undiscovered gem.

Yeah, I know. It's a dadgum procedural and I watch it! That speaks volumes. Got a big serialized element though, and it's so well cast; Olyphant is brilliant. Good stuff!
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I just noticed that I put this post in the Dexter thread...so here it comes in the right place...

This series and gwsat's prodding got me to read a bunch of EL's books including 2 novels that feature Raylen Givens. Edited pieces have been featured in the series, but for the most part, the TV character is much better drawn...and much smarter than EL's version...at least to this critic. This is a very good thing in my estimation, because without TO's subtlely nuanced and humorous performance, I don't think this series would have a chance. As it happens, we like it, the critic's like it, hopefully, it will draw enough viewers to continue. Not say that the books are bad. They are very entertaining. It's just the Givens character is not as well lit...and as I said,
not as smart. Winona in the books is the ex he's well rid of, as well as, his 2 teenage sons (evidently).
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

I just noticed that I put this post in the Dexter thread...so here it comes in the right place...

This series and gwsat's prodding got me to read a bunch of EL's books including 2 novels that feature Raylen Givens. Edited pieces have been featured in the series, but for the most part, the TV character is much better drawn...and much smarter than EL's version...at least to this critic. This is a very good thing in my estimation, because without TO's subtlely nuanced and humorous performance, I don't think this series would have a chance. As it happens, we like it, the critic's like it, hopefully, it will draw enough viewers to continue. Not say that the books are bad. They are very entertaining. It's just the Givens character is not as well lit...and as I said,
not as smart. Winona in the books is the ex he's well rid of, as well as, his 2 teenage sons (evidently).

Although I enjoyed the Raylan Givens character as Elmore Leonard wrote it, I agree that the writing of the TV series, combined with Tim Olyphant's performances, have made the TV character both smarter and funnier than Leonard's version was. Most of the characters in the show seem to have at least some socially redeeming virtue, which is far more than you can say for most Elmore Leonard characters. They are all articulate and entertaining but generally leave a lot to be desired in the humanity department.
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Yeah, I know. It's a dadgum procedural and I watch it! That speaks volumes. Got a big serialized element though, and it's so well cast; Olyphant is brilliant. Good stuff!

Yup, carnsarnit. I also have a policy against procedurals. They are the wastelands of television.
post #326 of 3229
I can't wait for the new season. This was easily one of the best things on TV this year.
post #327 of 3229
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Yup, carnsarnit. I also have a policy against procedurals. They are the wastelands of television.

Yep, when I have nightmares they are about one of the zillion Law & Order spinoffs. I confess, though, that I do still watch Law & Order: SVU because of Christopher Meloni and Mariska Hargitay. Their talent has allowed me to rise above the weekly succession of dumb judges and preposterous plot twists.
post #328 of 3229
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

**Not about the show Justified**

I'm really liking Timothy Olyphant these days. He's my '2010 favorite actor'.

This weekend I watched "The Crazies" (2010) and he was the lead star. Good movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455407/

2 weeks ago, I also caught him in the movie "A Perfect Getaway"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0971209/
Also a good movie.

Hope he gets more movies and TV series gigs. Good actor.

Totally. Watched A Perfect Getaway last month on HBO and it was a fun movie. Need to add The Crazies to my list. Also enjoyed him on the Office. Good fun role for him.
post #329 of 3229
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New season starts Wednesday, February 9 at 10 p.m
post #330 of 3229
Thanks for the update.
It should be January 9th
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