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post #391 of 3223
About Raylan seeing his co-worker at the bar....were we to assume that Tim is gay after we see him at the bar standing next to another guy? 50 miles outside of town...Tim and Raylan going to a bar far away from where they live/work for different reasons?

I LOVE the interactions between Raylan and Art. Awesome dialogue and timing.

Boyd's character sure is complex.

The Bennett boys and Mom sure seem to be gearing up to have a nice showdown with Raylan....and the Dixie Mob. Can't WAIT to see where this season goes.
post #392 of 3223
I'm taking a sabbatical from live shows until I catch up after buying last season on dvd. I'm hooked.
post #393 of 3223
Interesting point about Tim. I didn't consider that but on top of your observation from last night's show, I don't recall ever seeing him with the opposite sex in any episode.

I agree about Ryland and Art. It's fun to watch. Art was clearly irritated about Ryland staying at the start of the season but in truth, you know Art would miss Ryland if he returned to Florida. Where else would he get such good, cheap entertainment.

Based on next week's trailer, it looks like we can look forward to some-escalation between the law, the Bennetts, and the Dixie Mob-not to mention the "fourth element"-Boyd Crowder.

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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

About Raylan seeing his co-worker at the bar....were we to assume that Tim is gay after we see him at the bar standing next to another guy? 50 miles outside of town...Tim and Raylan going to a bar far away from where they live/work for different reasons?

I LOVE the interactions between Raylan and Art. Awesome dialogue and timing.

Boyd's character sure is complex.

The Bennett boys and Mom sure seem to be gearing up to have a nice showdown with Raylan....and the Dixie Mob. Can't WAIT to see where this season goes.
post #394 of 3223
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Originally Posted by elockett View Post

I agree about Ryland and

... just in passing, it's Raylan (not Ryland).

Raylan Givens.
post #395 of 3223
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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

...were we to assume that Tim is gay after we see him at the bar standing next to another guy? 50 miles outside of town...

Was he drinking an appletini?

Perhaps he's just a big music fan? Maybe his character was there to cause problems for Raylan and the ex wife?

I guess we'll have to keep an eye on him to see who he stands next to, next week.

post #396 of 3223
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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

About Raylan seeing his co-worker at the bar....were we to assume that Tim is gay after we see him at the bar standing next to another guy? 50 miles outside of town...Tim and Raylan going to a bar far away from where they live/work for different reasons?

I noticed that too, and drew the same conclusion.

We'll see, I'm sure. There was a reason they wrote that into the scene.
post #397 of 3223
I loved this week's Justified. Just trying to figure out where poor conflicted Boyd is coming from is worth the price of admission. As Boyd's coworker learned to his sorrow, it's not a good idea to press Boyd too hard on the subject.

I also loved the return of Dewey Crowe, perhaps the funniest, and dumbest, crook I have ever seen. Both Ava and Winona are southern honeys from central casting. I have a hard time trying to decide which of the two is the most scrumptious.

Justified is a great show with great characters, perhaps the best on TV these days.
post #398 of 3223
I don't think there is any 'Tim is gay' sub plot. They wanted to have him there to advance the story, and when you think about it, it's perfectly acceptable for a guy to be in a honky-tonk with other guys listening to a band. It's been published elsewhere that Yost is a big fan of Dave Alvin, and after he wrote a song inspired by Justified, they worked him into the show.
post #399 of 3223
That's what a combination of phonetics and laziness will get you. Thanks for the correction.
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... just in passing, it's Raylan (not Ryland).

Raylan Givens.
post #400 of 3223
My favorite line of the night came from Dewey. Something to the effect of "shut-up before I start putting bullets in places that bleed." This is a great show. I was a little cold on it after the first couple epi's of the first season but it became pretty great soon after. I'm very glad they decided to give Walt Goggins a much larger role. He is awesome.
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Originally Posted by jaypb View Post

About Raylan seeing his co-worker at the bar....were we to assume that Tim is gay after we see him at the bar standing next to another guy? 50 miles outside of town...Tim and Raylan going to a bar far away from where they live/work for different reasons?

I must admit, I flashed on the same thing, if for no other reason than Tim was no more interested in seeing Rayland than Rayland was of seeing him. But I hope not. Not for this show.
post #402 of 3223
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...interested in seeing Rayland than Rayland...

Again... his name is Raylan, not Rayland.
post #403 of 3223
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Again... his name is Raylan, not Rayland.

Just seeing if you were paying attention ...
post #404 of 3223
graham seems to like the name ray iirc boomtown, raines, justified.
post #405 of 3223
If you're not interested in 'the making of' aspects to this episode, skip this entry. (Some people don't want to know about the process, they just want to enjoy it)

During one of the takes of the scene where Dewey 'robs the robbers', the bag of oxy pills broke and scattered on the floor as Dewey took the bag out of the microwave. Damon Herriman, the australian actor who plays Dewey, kept going without missing a beat, scampering around on the floor picking up pills while staying in character and saying his lines. The result, apparently, was inspired, and everyone on the set thought they had struck gold with the scene.

When they got in the editing room, however, they ultimately went with a more conventional take. They decided that it was more important for the Dewey character at that moment in the story to 'finally do something right' than to take the laughs that the split bag of pills scene would have generated.

Speaks to the kinds of choices that the producers/directors have to make.
post #406 of 3223
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

During one of the takes of the scene where Dewey 'robs the robbers', the bag of oxy pills broke and scattered on the floor as Dewey took the bag out of the microwave. Damon Herriman, the australian actor who plays Dewey, kept going without missing a beat, scampering around on the floor picking up pills while staying in character and saying his lines. The result, apparently, was inspired, and everyone on the set thought they had struck gold with the scene.

When they got in the editing room, however, they ultimately went with a more conventional take. They decided that it was more important for the Dewey character at that moment in the story to 'finally do something right' than to take the laughs that the split bag of pills scene would have generated.

Speaks to the kinds of choices that the producers/directors have to make.

I agree that the choice Justified's writers made to have Dewey successfully carry out his pill heist was the best one. That way poor, dumb, Dewey would think he got by with it smoothly and without trouble. Who but Dewey wouldn't understand that a cowboy hat would never let a guy with neck tattoos who is a head shorter than Raylan credibly impersonate Raylan? I loved the way that played out. I loved the look of disappointment on the police chief Doyle Bennett's face when he realized he couldn't pin the pill robbery on Raylan. I laughed out loud at Doyle's expression when the girl eye witness looked at him like he was crazy when Raylan asked her if the pill thief looked like Raylan. Great stuff!
post #407 of 3223
I keep marveling at how much more likable Boyd Crowder is than Walton Goggin's last character.
post #408 of 3223
He's a very talented actor, his portrayal of Shane Vendrell in The Shield was outstanding as well.
post #409 of 3223
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He's a very talented actor, his portrayal of Shane Vendrell in The Shield was outstanding as well.

His portrayal was insanely depressing by the end Not that 'The Shield' was an uplifting show by any means (and is STILL my favorite all-time), but good God that story arc of Vendrell left me damaged for a while I think.

Sorry for the off-topic. It's still hard seeing Goggins as anything other than Vendrell, but he is top-notch for sure.
post #410 of 3223
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His portrayal was insanely depressing by the end Not that 'The Shield' was an uplifting show by any means (and is STILL my favorite all-time), but good God that story arc of Vendrell left me damaged for a while I think.

I agree that Walton Goggins was wonderful on The Shield as the damaged and ultimately doomed, Shane Vendrell. The Shield was great television but so depressing by the time it ended, I felt as if I needed therapy.

Watching Goggins play the enigmatic Boyd Crowder on Justified has only reinforced my already high opinion of his talent.
post #411 of 3223
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I loved this week's Justified. Just trying to figure out where poor conflicted Boyd is coming from is worth the price of admission. As Boyd's coworker learned to his sorrow, it's not a good idea to press Boyd too hard on the subject.

The wife and I talked about this. Our take is that Boyd hasn't really turned a new leaf. He is just tired of the old way and just "wants to be left the Hell alone" until he can figure it out.

Of course that isn't going to happen as we saw in this weeks episode. That will play on him and what is to come for him this season. That is what makes Boyd so dangerous in the show, but more interesting to the audience. I like the way the character has developed this season over last season. I think the writers have hit on something with Boyd in this condition and Walter Coggins is GREAT as Boyd. He almost makes you want to like him. A-l-m-o-s-t!
post #412 of 3223
I'll admit that I passed on season 1 of Justified because I was afraid that watching a show starring Timothy Olyphant would send me into a missing Deadwood fit of depression. Shortly before season 2 started I ordered the BD of Justified season 1 from Amazon based on positive views I had been hearing on that show. I have now finished season one and am now caught up on season two. Am I glad I got that BD of Justified! Great show, superb writing and directing, and of course Olyphant and the rest of the cast are terrific. The Deadwood alumni have been fun, too. Just the appearance of the poor preacher from DW made me smile. However, Justified is not "Deadwood lite", it can stand on it's own as a really good show, and I'm in from here on out. Plus, I have all of the seasons of Deadwood on Blu-ray so I can get my fix when I need it.
post #413 of 3223
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I'll admit that I passed on season 1 of Justified because I was afraid that watching a show starring Timothy Olyphant would send me into a missing Deadwood fit of depression. Shortly before season 2 started I ordered the BD of Justified season 1 from Amazon based on positive views I had been hearing on that show. I have now finished season one and am now caught up on season two. Am I glad I got that BD of Justified! Great show, superb writing and directing, and of course Olyphant and the rest of the cast are terrific. The Deadwood alumni have been fun, too. Just the appearance of the poor preacher from DW made me smile. However, Justified is not "Deadwood lite", it can stand on it's own as a really good show, and I'm in from here on out. Plus, I have all of the seasons of Deadwood on Blu-ray so I can get my fix when I need it.
I share your enthusiasm for the late, lamented Deadwood series. It has been fun to see Tim Olyphant and a bunch of other Deadwood alums cast in the wonderful Justified series. Justified is my favorite TV drama these days. Nobody has ever written better flawed heroes and charismatic crooks than Elmore Leonard; the show's creator Graham Yost and his writers have succeeded in capturing Leonard's magic.

Thanks for reminding me that Deadwood is now available on BD. I bought each season's DVDs as they were released, so sticker shock kept me from buying the BDs. No matter, though, they are all available from Blockbuster and, thanks to your post, are in my queue as I post this. I can hardly wait to see Deadwood once again, this time with 1080p video and HD audio.
post #414 of 3223
My DVR deleted last week's episode.
My DVR ran out of recording space, so it deleted everything that was not locked.
I then deleted 2 seasons of TV shows, I now have a lot of free space.
post #415 of 3223
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My DVR deleted last week's episode.
My DVR ran out of recording space, so it deleted everything that was not locked.
I then deleted 2 seasons of TV shows, I now have a lot of free space.


Check the listings. The episode is usually repeated a number of times during the week. You may still be able to get it.
post #416 of 3223
As usual, another solid episode this week. Several observations:
1-I like the respect Raylan and Mags showed for each other. It was funny to watch everyone else basically being ignored while Raylan and Mags talked shop.
2-I saw this coming but watch out for Rachel Brooks. She capped Flex pretty quick! Ironically, I felt some-though by no means total-sympathy for Flex.
3-It appears that Winona's (soon to be ex?) is more formidable that I initially thought. As if Raylan didn't have enough conflict to deal with.
4-I really liked the scene near the end of the episode where Rachel is drinking with the boys. Watching them all talk about their dysfunctional family members ironically made them appear more like family than co-workers.
5-I liked the interaction between Raylan and Rachel at the end where he offers to wait for her and she says no. Thus, Rachel is not ready to fully open up to Raylan yet but I think that time is coming. I could be wrong, but I predict the formation of a loose "big brother-little sister" relationship by season end.
6-If I interpreted next week's trailer correctly, I wonder what Ava is going to do when she finds out that Boyd is up to no good again...

For me, an indicator of just how good Justified really is is that the episodes go by way too quick for my taste. Does anyone else feel the same?
post #417 of 3223
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For me, an indicator of just how good Justified really is is that the episodes go by way too quick for my taste. Does anyone else feel the same?

Agree, but I wonder if this series has more commercial breaks than other shows. They are so annoying, even with the DVR. I missed last week's episode (I now finally decided to set up the series recording) so I watched them both last night. I couldn't believe how fast the time went to view the two episodes but it was actually about 90 minutes of real time.

Two great episodes, the series is really maturing with great layers. There's a lot going on.
post #418 of 3223
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Agree, but I wonder if this series has more commercial breaks than other shows. They are so annoying, even with the DVR.

I don't know-could be-but because of commercial skip via my DVR I don't really notice it.

Two shows where I do notice the commercials, even with commercial skip, are 60 minutes (especially about midpoint in the show), and Morning Joe on MSNBC (shear number of commercials throughout).
post #419 of 3223
I clocked this episode(including the "previously on" intro) at a few seconds over 40 mins. That is shorter than the average major network program which typically run around 42-43 mins. So if it felt like there were a lot of commercials, well, there were, a full 33% of the hour devoted to the show was used by something other than the show itself.
post #420 of 3223
You know, the slightly shorter length could have something to do with the fact that they have a 7-day shooting schedule, as opposed to broadcast network shows which get 8 days to shoot an episode. Maybe sometimes they just run out of time shooting, or don't get what they want out of a scene, and have to cut a bit. I don't know for sure, I'll have to ask my son about that...
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