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post #61 of 84
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Originally Posted by HogPilot View Post

Tom: will the DUO automatically distinguish between two displays of the same type (i.e. two 111FD Pros) plugged into each of its outputs, and will it also be able to switch profiles properly if for some reason you swap the outputs on those displays?

Don't know. The displays I have to test it on are all quite different from one another.
post #62 of 84
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Originally Posted by TomHuffman View Post

Don't know. The displays I have to test it on are all quite different from one another.

Okay, thanks. I guess it depends on the kind of info contained in any device's EDID - if there's some kind of unique tag (like a serial number) two devices of the same type should be recognizable from one another. Maybe I need to do a little more research on EDID
post #63 of 84
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Originally Posted by TomHuffman View Post

OK, let me take this back. It turns out that the DUO does have this capability, but I just hadn't noticed. In fact, the DUO works better than the Lumagen in this regard. When you plug in a display, the DUO automatically detects the display type and then any adjustments you make to the CMS or grayscale/gamma controls are stored independently. It all happens seamlessly and automatically in the background. Very cool.

How's that different from the Lumagen? You store your calibration in one of the config memories, and that memory is automatically used whenever appropriate. I'm probably missing something here...
post #64 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

How's that different from the Lumagen? You store your calibration in one of the config memories, and that memory is automatically used whenever appropriate. I'm probably missing something here...

I think it means that you don't have to manually select which output config to use, it's automatically selected based on what display is connected.
post #65 of 84
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Originally Posted by fatjulio View Post

I think it means that you don't have to manually select which output config to use, it's automatically selected based on what display is connected.

I still don't understand - how often do you switch the displays connected to your vp?
post #66 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

I still don't understand - how often do you switch the displays connected to your vp?

When you have 2 connected at once, say a flat panel and a projector. You'd only watch one at a time, but you won't have to select the appropriate output config for the relevant display.
post #67 of 84
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Originally Posted by fatjulio View Post

When you have 2 connected at once, say a flat panel and a projector. You'd only watch one at a time, but you won't have to select the appropriate output config for the relevant display.

So the duo detects the one that's on, is that what it is?
post #68 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

So the duo detects the one that's on, is that what it is?

I believe so.
post #69 of 84
I don't see what the big deal is.
post #70 of 84
ok let me shine some light on these discussions, HDMI 1.3 supports higher data speeds beyond the 1080/60p so you can say that if the XD can do 1080p/72 at its output, then Jim has found an undocumented feature of the HDMI TX chips he is using. The reality however is which display or projector will support 72p ?
CRT users should be aware that at this setting the video bandwith is well exceeding of what most projectors if not all have been designed for. Next thing they will run stinking hot, reducing life span or if modified risking of dying very quickly.
Ditigal displays that are 24p compatible probably increase the frame rate internally to 96 or higher anyway.
So maybe somebody can explain me why 1080p/72 ?
And pls before you start a rant, check out what we are doing and decide yourself.....spatz-tech.com

thanks
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post #72 of 84
Hi Gordon, yes my fault was not aware of the other thread......
post #73 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

Maybe.

Anything new on this upcoming new feature for the Radiance which may or may not be their version of PREP?
post #74 of 84
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Originally Posted by GerryWaz View Post

Anything new on this upcoming new feature for the Radiance which may or may not be their version of PREP?

No nothing new. We're waiting for the next major update I guess. Last few ones have been for bug fixes.
post #75 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

No nothing new. We're waiting for the next major update I guess. Last few ones have been for bug fixes.

Thanks! As a new Radiance XS owner, how often does Lumagen do major updates? Common, rare, every so often as needed . . . ?
post #76 of 84
I'd say as needed. You know, you can check it out yourself on the firmware page right?
post #77 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

I'd say as needed. You know, you can check it out yourself on the firmware page right?

Yup! Still a bit new to the Radiance at the moment to feel comfortable saying what's major and what's minor.
post #78 of 84
as a newbie in the scaler forum, i feel that the op has the exact situation as myself. if one is using a jvc 990/rs35 and watches a lot of sd dvd's and cable tv (ie. scientific atlanta 8300hd box), will using a lumagen over the duo improve much?

now i know this is a fairly broad question, but im wondering if sd cable and sd dvd's can really be improved very much to make them bearable to watch on a large screen (ie. 126" or larger). now from my research, i have decided to invest in an algolith flea hdmi for the cable box unless of course the lumagen or duo will make it noise reduction capabilities redundant. i will be using an oppo 83bdp as well, so im still undecided if i should invest in a scaler like the lumagen or duo and if it will make these sources even bearable to watch. any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
post #79 of 84
Tom or anyone else that have tested both; are there any difference how Duo and the XS deinterlacing and scale s-video inputs like Laserdisc? My main reason to get a VP is to have the best image possible on my Panasonic 4000 from my laserdiscplayer, with the lowest noise (without any noise reduction, just lowest noise added by the VP itself), sharpest and stable image in 1080P/24.
post #80 of 84
You might want to look at this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1148239

EDIT: Ahh I see you already have....
post #81 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

So the duo detects the one that's on, is that what it is?

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Originally Posted by fatjulio View Post

I believe so.

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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

I don't see what the big deal is.

Maybe not for you but for me (having a front projector and a plasma TV hooked up to the same HDMI splitter) it is an interesting one so once you've calibrated/adjusted both outputs you can forgot all of the rest until a change (source, projector, lamp, TV) is made into your home theater chain.

In fact it seems very strange that the Radiance doesn't support that feature,

By the way... in just a few weeks I will be another Radiance XS owner so I will confirm how it works.

Regards.
post #82 of 84
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In fact it seems very strange that the Radiance doesn't support that feature

Since the Radiance supports both outputs being on simultaneously it's not always the simple case that one is off and the other is on. So you might have a third output configuration where both are on and has settings that are some type of compromise between the two displays. There are 8 programmable output configurations on the Radiance. It's something that we could add to the software if we got much demand for it--otherwise if you've got a decent programmable remote/control system it's fairly easy to do it that way in combination with powering on the display in question.
post #83 of 84
Hi Patrick...
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Originally Posted by patrick harkin View Post

It's something that we could add to the software if we got much demand for it--otherwise if you've got a decent programmable remote/control system it's fairly easy to do it that way in combination with powering on the display in question.

Well... If you ask me I prefer PReP...
post #84 of 84
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Originally Posted by aoshiken View Post

Hi Patrick...

Well... If you ask me I prefer PReP...

I think this is probably the new feature that has been hinted at and will be available for all models of the Radiance.

Kind regards,

Steve
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