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post #31 of 6307
Can someone who has seen a C7000 in the flesh please say what color "Mystic Earth" is? The press photo looks a little purplish, but the photo above looks clear. (And colors are un-subtle on the LCD screen (oops! heh.) of my computer.) After all, Samsung called the red of their B7000/6000 "amber". Uh-huh.

Also Chad's calibration review makes mention of reflection and viewing angle nits, but doesn't say whether these are any worse than the B7000 (or B8500). From the Samsung specs and press I assumed they would be the same. Any owners with them side-by-side care to offer an opinion?
post #32 of 6307
Do all C7000 come with the brown TOC? Most of the pics I've seen of the C7000 have a solid black frame. I don't like the brown at all.
post #33 of 6307
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

Do all C7000 come with the brown TOC? Most of the pics I've seen of the C7000 have a solid black frame. I don't like the brown at all.

I did not even notice the TOC. ( Which is good )
post #34 of 6307
I also didn't notice any brown in the "TOC". It looked black or dark gray to me at the store. I wouldn't have been happy if it was brown, and it didn't look brown.
post #35 of 6307
Heheh, bezel lottery!

Well ok, I went and took some images with my cell phone at Best Buy. These are not retouched and I didn't adjust any color in these images.

The first one shows the C7000 bezel next to the Sony KDL-60EX700 that has a true black glossy bezel.

The second image shows it next to the B6000, which is the red ToC. You can see that the B6000 has the red tint only at the edges and the bezel is completely black on the inside, while on the C7000 the whole thing has this dark cappuccino / brownish / reddish / whachawannacallit color throughout. You can also see some nice flashlighting at the corner of the C7000.

I have to admit that it's weird that sometimes the bezel looks almost black, depending on the surrounding lighting and what's on screen. Perhaps that's why they call it "Mystic Earth", eh?



post #36 of 6307
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Originally Posted by Bambooben View Post

I was in the brand new HHGregg in Wilmington NC today and wrote this in the other Samsung thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post18245101

Must come down to individual sets, because I didn't see any of that.
And it was the 7000, like I said in my other post they don't even have the 8000 in their system yet, and no idea of release date. By the way they were using Component, not HDMI for their connection.

I doubt hhgregg will be carrying the 8000. We didn't carry last years 8500 and this years c8000 should be considered the same high end piece. I just got done putting up the 7000 today. It's a definite improvement over last year especially in motion, although black level seems about the same unfortunately.
post #37 of 6307
We just put up the 55C7000 (BBY Here) and so far so good. I just got here so no testing on it yet and no signs of anything notable yet either. I'll post back later after messed with it some.
post #38 of 6307
Maybe you can choose the TOC, because Ive seen C7000 pictures where it is clearly black, and Ive seen pics where it clearly has a brownish stripe towards the bottom.

I really hope I can get an all black one.
post #39 of 6307
More I look @ it the more I think I'mma snag this bad boy. So far no real signs of clouding or flashlighting of our display atleast. Time will tell. I'll prob get it tonight or tomorrow.
post #40 of 6307
From what Ive seen the C7000 looks like a great TV. Right now I'm still having trouble choosing the C7000 or the B8000. I don't care too much about 3D but it would be cool on some games. On the other hand I do care about PQ, but I also don't want to spend too much money.

For those of you that have experience whith these TV's, is it worth spending extra on a C7000 over the B8000?
post #41 of 6307
Wife just exchanged our 55B8000 for the 55C7000. She is on way home with it now. I'll post pics later tonight. Stay tuned! Alot of ppl posting here from Middle NC I've seen, lesat 2-3 people besides me! lol
post #42 of 6307
***Doing a channel scan right now with my basic cable. Yes....I have basic cable hooked-up to this monster. I do not watch TV, only hockey games really. Which I go to most of them since I live near the RBC center when the Canes play home. I use this TV for Blu-ray mainly then playing PS3 then computer monitor. I will write a more in-depth review once used and tweaked abit. Yes for those who are wondering, I will get this bad boy calibrated by a buddy of mine using sencore.

Mav Out!

Getting late here now and meeting in the morning 8am. So no pictures uploaded tonight, will tomorrow. Saw some clouding and flash-lighting on the 55C7000 as well... Not as bad as on the 55B8000 but still noticeable when watched Saw VI. Colors were pretty close without major settings.
post #43 of 6307
I thought it was funny how many NC guys were hear as well. I'm out on the beach near Emerald Isle, but run down to Wilmington and up to Cary all the time.
post #44 of 6307
Thread Starter 
The internet is bringing us all closer, lol.
post #45 of 6307
Tease real fast =)


post #46 of 6307
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Originally Posted by DarkGSR View Post

Tease real fast =)



:O dont let your toddler/kid(s) put their paws on your led!!! lol
post #47 of 6307
I just exchanged a recently purchased 55b8000 for a 55C7000. While the set is not quite perfect (still a little cloudy, and some small flashlighting), but no where as bad, and is hardly noticeable unlike my 8000, which was almost unbearable. All I can say is this set is an improvement in every way. Better looking bezel more features, better performance, at an initial lower price point than last years 8000.

On another note where is the Pandora and Netflix Apps? Am I doing something wrong or are they not available yet?
post #48 of 6307
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Originally Posted by SAGriffin View Post

I just exchanged a recently purchased 55b8000 for a 55C7000. While the set is not quite perfect (still a little cloudy, and some small flashlighting), but no where as bad, and is hardly noticeable unlike my 8000, which was almost unbearable. All I can say is this set is an improvement in every way. Better looking bezel more features, better performance, at an initial lower price point than last years 8000.

On another note where is the Pandora and Netflix Apps? Am I doing something wrong or are they not available yet?

Web-connected Samsung Apps
Choose apps built for your TV that let you stream video, play games,
view pictures and more.
EXAMPLES INCLUDE:
• Video: BLOCKBUSTER® (new movie releases), YouTube™ (user-generated content) and Netflix (instantly stream TV shows and movies).
• Games: Monopoly® from EA, interactive card games and more.
• Lifestyle: Facebook® (social networking), Twitter™ (conversations and updates), Pandora (personalized internet radio) and more.
• Sports and information: the latest headlines and more from Associated Press and USA Today.®

* Requires either a wired or wireless connection – see setup guide for details.

Do you have a Wireless router or Wired to interface the Apps? They can't work without the interface.
post #49 of 6307
I guess I should have explained better, the TV is connected to the internet (wired) and I have some apps, just not all of the ones mentioned in the description that you posted and the description on Samsung's web site. Do you own one of the C series sets, if so do you have the mentioned apps?
post #50 of 6307
The apps are available with future updates. I too do not have the facebook or blockbuster yet on mine. Netflix isn't available yet on sammys. I do not think the tv itself has Pandora.

Also, funny SAGriffin, we are in same boat, exchanging 55b8000 for the 55c7000. Both still good improvement but still small clouding and flash-lighting. I see the clouding on the bottom, what about you?

Going to watch Pirates curse of black pearl on Blu-ray now, post pics and more info when done.
post #51 of 6307
So finally time to myself! Wifey in bed on the Mac and I'm getting down to my personal review of the 55C7000. Just heads up this will not be as in-depth or as well done as Chad's Calibration review aspect.

So first off, the actual box size was really nice improvement over 09's boxing. More slim and more protection inside of it. There was actually a side support Styrofoam bar there, as well as one piece of cardboard with Styrofoam attached to that to support the LED itself! Very impressed there. The stand is not attached due to the weird stand Samsung went with this year. Unlike how the 55B800 had the stand attached.

There will be pictures of the box, packaging, remote, accessories for connections, LED itself mounted on my stand, flash-lighting, and clouding. Then of course a few screen shots. All shots were taken with auto settings. No time really so far to actual set manual and take good shots.

Once setting up I noticed that the actual mounting screw holes in the TV were more shallow than last years LED's. That is a very good thing, last year you could very well over torque the screws and mess up your panel. So you will need the rubber "stoppers" that come with the TV in the accessories bag if you plan on mounting it.

What is inside the bag of accessory goodies? One very retro silver remote, all the connection to mini plugs, Spanish Samsung elite membership registration card, plate to over the back of the TV if mounting, rope and screw for if putting on stand to prevent from tipping over, wire management clips, Owners Manual, and Cloth. Now with all these you will actually keep most of it. What happens with this TV and I do not know if other models share this but all connections but for the HDMI have adapters. Mini to be exact. So you actually go from Mini to Optical, Mini to VGA, Mini to Composite, Mini to Component, Proprietary LAN connection to Ethernet, Proprietary coaxial jack to coaxial. Very weird.... That is my first con to this set. A quick pro though with the new remote is that it lights up all the numbers and functions with soft white light. No more of that annoying reddish orange bright light!

So once setup the channel scan takes forever as always still sadly enough. Then gets to the good part. First thing I tweaked around with was the 3D modes even though no glasses are available yet. There are quite a few modes here for 2D --> 3D, Side by Side, Top & Bottom, Line by Line, Vertical Stripe, Checker Board, and Frequency. Nice to have choices. Then went into the settings for picture to take a look at what was new and if at all useful to the normal consumer. Wow oh Wow! Even Average Joe can appreciate the control of picture settings on this LED. Increase backlight so it can be more effectively adjusted, new test patters, RGB only, White 10P scale, custom 240HZ but seems little more effective over B8000. Color Space adjustment. MPEG Noise Filter, and can even have LED Motion Plus on with CPU over HDMI. Glad to see sammy getting on same page as custom settings as in-depth as the LG's. Woot!

So of course, I snapped in Saw VI right away after all setup and working fine, no tweaks and watched it on Natural setting so see what it does out of box. Man oh man. Blew me away for Natural setting with no changes. Of course don't get me wrong, changes needed to be made but for factory preset. Very nice, improved over last years Natural preset. Little too much pop and looked like great TV rather than realistic. So for some people it maybe perfect, some not. Skins tones were a little under saturated and edges too sharp. Also Flash-lighting and clouding were evident. After a few and I mean few tweaks here and there on standard mode, I was able to almost eliminate the Flash-lighting and clouding I had seen before. I tried to capture it in pictures but no justice really. I'll snag some more later with another movie or game. Speaking of games! I'm sure we'll see Fritio in here sometime talking about LAG of course but with my personal experience of it so far, min lag here. Played CODMW2 and didn't really find myself swearing up and down how I knifed him before he knifed me and how I shot before he did, etc. I don't see alot of lag and that wasn't even in game mode. Hopefully Frito can shed some light on this in the near future since that seems to be his forte. Heavy Rain, Bioshock 2, Borderlands, CODMW2, Assassins Creed 2, and FEAR 2 all look amazing and play well. No ghosting or blur. Not saying it is perfect and lag doesn't exist, just saying I didn't see any worth putting notes in about.

While watching Pirates Curse of Black Pearl, I was impressed with the level of shadow detail and no real Mosquito Noise like I saw on the 55B800. Pretty bad in Shooter. The water was very fluid on Standard 240Hz settings. Flesh tones were solid without using the Flesh Tone enhancer.

Using this LED as my Computer Monitor works out very well too! I use it at 1680x1050 @60Hz. Works out well for photo editing and gaming such as Counter Strike Source. Don't really play it that much anymore but did stress test and played a few rounds and was very happy with the results.

In conclusion for anyone from first LED to 3rd LED this is a great TV and solid improvement from the problematic 55B8000. I will be getting this calibrated by ISF certified tech I know using Sencore once I have moved into my new house within the next few months. Or maybe sooner and have him do it again once I have moved. Depends on how itchy I get about it. I'm all excited for this TV! Great buy for all.

Oh yes, I did not forget the whole internet widgets, I just do not find them useful or effective at this current time. So I have not set them up on my home TV. I did at work today and there is MAYBE 10 Applications over all available right now on the Samsung store. No Firmware update eitiher. Only nice feature is SKYPE if you use it. Facebook and Blockbuster I didn't see on the list yet. Very weird. Waiting for those two.

I probably forgot a few things but if you have questions please feel free to ask and I can answer as best I can. I am sure everyone wants to see pictures! Well here they are!!
*** Sorry some are larger than others. Got tired of resizing.





















Have more later. Enjoy!
post #52 of 6307
in the Black Pearl screenshots, is that light coming from the bottom right corner and the bottom?
post #53 of 6307
I was curious to why the newer LCD is even lighter by 30 some pounds iirc compared to the same 55" 8000/8500 series?
post #54 of 6307
One thing about the mini cables that i like, they seem to help the TV mount closer to the wall. I had problems with the B 8000 wanting to stick out more on the bottom corner where the jacks are. The C 7000 lays almost completely even on all four corners with slim Samsung mount, and I have four HDMI cables, ethernet, fiber optic, component cables with audio RCA, and a coax for over air channels (going to do some PIP next football season).

I do hope they get the Netflix app going soon, so I do not have to use my Xbox 360, I do not want to have to change my game settings to watch a movie.

As far as the flash-lighting cloudiness issue, it is minimal with a few minor tweaks. The light seems to be evenly just at the edges along the top and bottom. Not that bad and way less distracting than having intermittent cloudy spots that spill over into the pictures when watching TV with black bars.
post #55 of 6307
what does the smart LED setting do? Usually smart led means local dimming, so I think it may control the backlight dimming. Are there any problems with using a high speed HDMI 1.3 cable and will it work with 3D, or should I just get a 1.4 cable?

Also would someone who has a C7000 take some pics of the frame, Im curious about how distracting the mystic earth TOC is.
post #56 of 6307
Does anyone know if you can swap stands on any 2009-2010 Samsung TV's? Or are every single one of them only usable on the particular model they come with? I'm not a fan of the new (chicken foot) four-footed design. I would like to find one of those rectangular stands (glass, stainless steel, etc.) and use it instead.

Would also like to know if the widgets load much faster this year. They took forever and day to load on last year's Samsungs, and were worthless to me for that reason. Surely they must be quicker this year?

Also, the 55 inch edge-lits last year were famous for the darkened corners, easily noticeable on all-white or solid color screens. Has this been rectified?

Also, any problems with annoying backlight fluctuation on low-APL scenes?

How does white text look on an all black screen? On last year's models all the LED's had to be dimmed to provide for excellent blacks, and the white lettering in the center of the screen suffered, and was unusually dim as a result. Does a little bit of white text on a black background seem any brighter on this year's models?

Thanks!
post #57 of 6307
So does anyone know if I would have to buy the official samsung 3d glasses to see 3d content on c7000, or would i be able to use say the 3d glasses ill get when i go see alice in wonderland???
post #58 of 6307
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Originally Posted by dx31698 View Post

So does anyone know if I would have to buy the official samsung 3d glasses to see 3d content on c7000, or would i be able to use say the 3d glasses ill get when i go see alice in wonderland???

My understanding is that you will need the Samsung shutter 3D glasses because they work wirelessly with the TV. They alternate lenses with what is on the screen, and that is all I know about them. I am not totally sure that I got that whole concept right, but I am pretty sure that standard movie glasses will not work.
post #59 of 6307
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Originally Posted by SAGriffin View Post

My understanding is that you will need the Samsung shutter 3D glasses because they work wirelessly with the TV. They alternate lenses with what is on the screen, and that is all I know about them. I am not totally sure that I got that whole concept right, but I am pretty sure that standard movie glasses will not work.

That really sucks if thats true. They want so much money for stupid glasses
post #60 of 6307
yea, my understanding is that the glasses will be $60-$125/pair.

certainly off-putting in the event that you were planning on hosting a 3D super bowl party next February.

thanks for the pictures, all. the flashlighting in Pando's and GSR's posted images is pretty disappointing.
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