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Finances are here. Time to start ordering. PICS and VIDS to come! What is for sure: 2 Fi Audio IB3 18's, each in their own 128 cubic foot box (before displacement) with a 12" sonotube port 48" long ( to begin with, will cut down raising tuning over time) resulting in a 6.5Hz tune! Dual EP2500's or EP4000's.

I am building from the floor up... scratch. I need a solid 7.1 receiver capable of more than 110 watts per channel. I plan on building MT's or MMT's designed by Kevin with Exodus Anarchy's. IDK about using a HP filter yet.. but I may go as high as 15Hz with the tune...I'll start low and have myself some fun and learn all the way up to 15Hz.

I'd like some input on the receiver... THX Ultra Certified preffered.. but $500-$600ish seems a good price point. I would also like some input from you guys on a new PC with Blu Ray and whatever I'd need to run REW and connect it to a 40" LCD HDTV.

I'll also be building a van walled off with 4 IB3 18's.... ported and tuned to 15Hz most likely. See the Car Audio section for it's build log! Lots of bateries and amps going in there, and some Adire Audio Extremis 6.4's and CSS FR125S's! 10X's the power needed...
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Win.
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I am waiting impatiently ....hope it's not one of those build threads that goes on for 10 pages with no pics....just saying....
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I go van shopping tomorrow, once I'm drivin it around I'm getting the new dig vid cam... and pics of everything from there... you guys are gonna get annoyed from TOO MANY pics.

anyway,
Got a new hard drive at Best Buy today, grabbed War of the Worlds while I was there... (BTW do I want to play it in DTS or Dolby Digital?) and looked at pro audio amps, PC's, monitors, flat panel TVs... and I saw a sony 7.1 770 watt strdn1000 with 4 hdmi 1080i upscaling 110rms x 7@8ohms r2d2.... any good?
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Originally Posted by kryptonitewhite View Post

I go van shopping tomorrow, once I'm drivin it around I'm getting the new dig vid cam... and pics of everything from there... you guys are gonna get annoyed from TOO MANY pics.

anyway,
Got a new hard drive at Best Buy today, grabbed War of the Worlds while I was there... (BTW do I want to play it in DTS or Dolby Digital?) and looked at pro audio amps, PC's, monitors, flat panel TVs... and I saw a sony 7.1 770 watt strdn1000 with 4 hdmi 1080i upscaling 110rms x 7@8ohms r2d2.... any good?

Make sure its white to fit in with the whole speaker thing
post #6 of 615
DTS for Wotw subwoofer workout.
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For the computer, check out our HTPC subforum. I built my HTPC over a year ago, and kind'a over built it, just because I didn't know. So it sucks a lot more power than I needed, but it works well for gaming.

For your reciever, you may want to not worry about a THX Ultra super crazy certification. Instead, get a good receiver with preamp outs and buy an Emotiva XPA5, then use the two rear surround receiver channels to power those speakers. Or an XPA3 for the mains and the receiver for the rest.

Tuning: I like your idea of tuning low and raising it. So much easier than trying to tune lower.
post #8 of 615
Now we are talkin'!!


If you want THX certs at those price points I think Onkyo will be one of the only choices at street prices.
post #9 of 615
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

DTS for Wotw subwoofer workout.

I get no sound with that! Because of the DVD player? Receiver? It better work once I get all my gear...
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Did you get the plaster wall thing taken care of? If so, how did it go?

Hey, weren't you suppose to post photos of THAT job???
post #11 of 615
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Originally Posted by Looneybomber View Post

For the computer, check out our HTPC subforum. I built my HTPC over a year ago, and kind'a over built it, just because I didn't know. So it sucks a lot more power than I needed, but it works well for gaming.

For your reciever, you may want to not worry about a THX Ultra super crazy certification. Instead, get a good receiver with preamp outs and buy an Emotiva XPA5, then use the two rear surround receiver channels to power those speakers. Or an XPA3 for the mains and the receiver for the rest.

Tuning: I like your idea of tuning low and raising it. So much easier than trying to tune lower.

Low-End I

The first system is a budget microATX system with integrated graphics. As the integrated graphics supports hardware HD decoding, you don't need a discrete graphics (unless you play games).

System

CPU: Athlon X2 4850e ADH4850DOBOX 45W Brisbane 2.5GHz Socket AM2, $89.
CPU Cooler: Scythe NINJA MINI, $35.
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AMD 780G chipset microATX, $81.
Memory: Crucial Ballistix BL2KIT12864AA804 DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $29 (after rebate at Newegg.com).
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3200 (integrated in the motherboard chipset), $0.
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint T166 500GB HD501LJ 500GB SATA, $106.
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA 380 (included in the case), $0.
Case: Antec NSK2480, $75.
Total Cost: $415

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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

Now we are talkin'!!


If you want THX certs at those price points I think Onkyo will be one of the choices at street prices.

Onkyo keeps coming up repeatedly! That must mean something!

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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

Did you get the plaster wall thing taken care of? If so, how did it go?

Hey, weren't you suppose to post photos of THAT job???

I'll be sure to take vids of THAT job, I'll try to do that with the subs!
post #12 of 615
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Originally Posted by kryptonitewhite View Post

I get no sound with that! Because of the DVD player? Receiver? It better work once I get all my gear...

You may not have DTS processing in your receiver, although it's basically a given these days. What are you using for your receiver?

Why the 128cu ft fascination? I still don't get it. This is the last time I'll bring it up, but I'm just trying to help you. Save yourself some space and go for 30-35 cu ft tuned to 10hz for each drive which is still huge. You probably only need one EP amp too since you'll have so much efficiency in the low bass your power handling will be low.
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Originally Posted by kryptonitewhite View Post


Onkyo keeps coming up repeatedly! That must mean something!


Some of their sub $1,000 receivers have THX Select certification. These last ones are pretty good for the price. I got a 607 for my dad and I picked up a THX Ultra2 certified 3007 but that one was well over $1,000.

Yeah...if you don't have DTS working right now you either don't have it turned on in your dvd player or your equipment is 10 years old or something.
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Originally Posted by kryptonitewhite View Post

Low-End I

The first system is a budget microATX system with integrated graphics. As the integrated graphics supports hardware HD decoding, you don't need a discrete graphics (unless you play games).

System

CPU: Athlon X2 4850e ADH4850DOBOX 45W Brisbane 2.5GHz Socket AM2, $89.
CPU Cooler: Scythe NINJA MINI, $35.
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AMD 780G chipset microATX, $81.
Memory: Crucial Ballistix BL2KIT12864AA804 DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $29 (after rebate at Newegg.com).
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3200 (integrated in the motherboard chipset), $0.
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint T166 500GB HD501LJ 500GB SATA, $106.
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA 380 (included in the case), $0.
Case: Antec NSK2480, $75.
Total Cost: $415

Your looking at an old recommend system. Check out the current recommended options:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17984809

As far as the receiver, don't be caught up with thx cert and 110w+. Personally, I'd find a receiver that offers the bells and whistles you want (such as audyssey, many HDMI inputs, Advanced audio codec decoding, etc.), and get a good amp for at least the main speakers and use the pre-outs.

You could also get a refurb last gen receiver as well, and put money towards an amp as your original budget was only 5-600.
post #15 of 615
That is an amazing resource!

Everytime I go over there I get the itch to build at HTPC.
Then I get to work and am quickly reminded how bad I hate PCs and the myriad of daily issues.

I get back home and am comforted about simply putting the disc in the player and having it work every time.
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Originally Posted by Ricci View Post

Why the 128cu ft fascination? I still don't get it. This is the last time I'll bring it up, but I'm just trying to help you. Save yourself some space and go for 30-35 cu ft tuned to 10hz for each drive which is still huge. You probably only need one EP amp too since you'll have so much efficiency in the low bass your power handling will be low.

Not to mention the unwieldy-ness of it all.
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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

I get back home and am comforted about simply putting the disc in the player and having it work every time.

I'm comforted by the convenience of navigating through my entire blu-ray library backed up onto my computer. I can't remember the last time I put a disc in when I wanted to watch a movie.

Once you go HTPC, you never go back.
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I'm comforted by the convenience of navigating through my entire blu-ray library backed up onto my computer. I can't remember the last time I put a disc in when I wanted to watch a movie.

Once you go HTPC, you never go back.

I agree there are definitely some benefits.
Although, I like new releases and am not a big fan of watching the same movies more than once or twice.

But, the first time I had to reboot or had things go awry (they always do), I would take that thing out back and use it for target practice.

Like I said, I get the itch on occasion, then I also come across a post something like "I abondoned my HTPC bought a simple Blu-ray player and it just works!"

But, who knows, one of these days I may do it, god help me.
What are they using to rip BDs these days?
post #19 of 615
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Originally Posted by gunbunnysoulja View Post

Once you go HTPC, you never go back.

Agree'd. There's nothing like surfing the internet and gaming on a 54".
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Agree'd. There's nothing like surfing the internet and gaming on a 54".

....or a 100".
post #21 of 615
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Got the VAN. Got the CAM. Got Star Trek, Transformers, and G.I. JOE. Got 2 12" ports. Who has 12" sonotube ports? I do NOT bring the cat into this. EVER! He does it all on his own! I think he's good for scaling anyway.









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Originally Posted by Ricci View Post

You may not have DTS processing in your receiver, although it's basically a given these days. What are you using for your receiver?

for now? 2 of these

http://www.walmart.com/ip/2408808

ya ya..blow me. 1 of these per coil and my walls friggen BREATHE... on the other side of the house



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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Yeah...if you don't have DTS working right now you either don't have it turned on in your dvd player or your equipment is 10 years old or something.

and they aren't 10 years old heheheh

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Originally Posted by gunbunnysoulja View Post

Your looking at an old recommend system. Check out the current recommended options:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17984809

As far as the receiver, don't be caught up with thx cert and 110w+. Personally, I'd find a receiver that offers the bells and whistles you want (such as audyssey, many HDMI inputs, Advanced audio codec decoding, etc.), and get a good amp for at least the main speakers and use the pre-outs.

You could also get a refurb last gen receiver as well, and put money towards an amp as your original budget was only 5-600.


ok.. thank you! man I got a lotta researching ahead...more more more. I been plannign this sytem for 2 years. sheesh.
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

....or a 100".

You one upper...Let me guess, your subs are bigger than mine huh?
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Originally Posted by Looneybomber View Post

You one upper...Let me guess, your subs are bigger than mine huh?

Not for long, my good man. Not for long.
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Hey Sherv! Haven't seen you around in a while. How are those quad 18's keeping you? No upgrade itch this year?
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Hey Sherv! Haven't seen you around in a while. How are those quad 18's keeping you? No upgrade itch this year?

they are perfect! no upgrade needed anytime in the next few years, unless there comes a nice lms-ultra or better like performing driver at maelstrom prices. But for now, these quad 18's are giving me tight, deep, flat and visceral bass down to single digits FLAT...can't complain about that.

I've been out of the scene on the forums, just been enjoying my setup to be honest. Was finally able to integrate a high end audiophile 2 channel with the rest of my setup, and been enjoying 192khz 24bit lossless 2 channel music like no tomorrow.... here is the setup:
http://www.lordofthebass.com/_images...sabripo_02.jpg


the Pass Labs X250 is on its way out, giving way to it's big brothers, a pair of X600 Monoblocks, so that should keep me busy for a little bit
post #28 of 615
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

http://www.lordofthebass.com/gallery/twintowers.html

enjoy

well shoot! now i gotta rename them Twin Towers II!

Just ordered 2 EP4000's!
post #29 of 615
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Originally Posted by gunbunnysoulja View Post

Your looking at an old recommend system. Check out the current recommended options:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post17984809

As far as the receiver, don't be caught up with thx cert and 110w+. Personally, I'd find a receiver that offers the bells and whistles you want (such as audyssey, many HDMI inputs, Advanced audio codec decoding, etc.), and get a good amp for at least the main speakers and use the pre-outs.

You could also get a refurb last gen receiver as well, and put money towards an amp as your original budget was only 5-600.


I'd like a simple easy way to buy/build an HTPC with a Blu-Rey player to run to a good Onkyo 7.1 receiver that you all recommend. I want it as plain and cheap as possible nothing fancy. The HDTV I think I'm getting is a Sony with the new 24 True Cinnema or something like that.

http://shopper.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-33485063.html

I'd also like ease of use with REW and whatever else you all think I may need/want.

I want to do a true 7.1 surround with Blu-Rey...and I want to do the Exodus Anarchy MTs, MTMs, or MMTs... but I don't know the difference. Also, Kevin isn't designing them anymore but Dyohn might from HTS. Help there as well would be great!
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Decided to grab the Samsung, the only one with Netflix live stream capability..man what I had to go thru to get it... it's the floor display, paid full price...but I got the last one!

Bought Transformers and a bunch of other movies the other day...normal DVD... opened them all but Transformers so i can take that one back, and the lady that grabbed 2012 Blu Rey grabbed 2... so I can take that back tomorrow too LOL. I'll give all the others to my friends n fam!


I use hulu.com and I play my music from my PC on my HT. So how do I connect my cheap walmart PC I have to my HDTV and receiver? That was why I wanted to build an HTPC... so I can just run it all off it.
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