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The Return of 'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno' on NBC HD!

post #1 of 361
3/1/10 at 8:29pm
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After considerable drama played out in the media spotlight across the country, Jay Leno returns to his old haunting grounds, NBC weeknights at 11:35pm ET.

The only question now is: Can Leno regain the viewers & ratings he had before the aborted 10pm experiment?

Opinion seems to be divided in the issue, with some knowledgeable observers saying no, while others think he'll have little problem getting back to his old numbers. Personally, I'm already on record as saying I think Leno will do OK, about as well as Letterman, but not as well as he did previously. We shall see.

First night back guests are Jamie Foxx, Olympic skier Lindsey Vonn and Brad Paisley.

On Tuesday we'll get Sarah Palin, Olympic snowboarder Shaun White and music by Adam Lambert.
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post #2 of 361
3/1/10 at 8:38pm
And just to prove how much The Jay Leno Show really really wasn't anything like the old Tonight Show, they reused the Jay Leno Show set, changed the lighting, added a desk and ...

hey, waddya know. It's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.
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post #3 of 361
3/1/10 at 8:52pm
Well, the show didn't use the former local which would have been nice. I like Jay having a desk, but I hope there is not a big table or ottoman blocking the view of the beautiful women on the show.
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post #4 of 361
3/1/10 at 9:06pm
I didn't last long. Same Tonight Show as always and Jamie Foxx's hyperactivity just made me switch over to Bill Murray on Letterman.
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post #5 of 361
3/1/10 at 9:45pm
Literally nothing has changed except a slightly altered opening and a different set (which is too dark and dreary IMO).
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post #6 of 361
3/1/10 at 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I didn't last long. Same Tonight Show as always and Jamie Foxx's hyperactivity just made me switch over to Bill Murray on Letterman.

Yeah, having Jamie Foxx as first guest doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
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post #7 of 361
3/2/10 at 6:28am
I thought it was an OK episode.
I laughed a couple times.
No more DVRing 9:00 Jay to watch at 10:35

I'm glad all the "off topic" hate chatter about Conan Vs. Jay is now gone.
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post #8 of 361
3/2/10 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

I thought it was an OK episode.
I laughed a couple times.
No more DVRing 9:00 Jay to watch at 10:35

I'm glad all the "off topic" hate chatter about Conan Vs. Jay is now gone.

Yes let's not have free speech. You MUST like Jay or you comments aren't welcome. Whatever.
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post #9 of 361
3/2/10 at 7:56am
I dislike Jay's show for reasons. None of them involve him taking the show away from Conan. Conan lost his show due to his own ineptitude. I dislike Jay for simple reasons: He isn't funny. He's purposely inoffensive. He aims squarely at the middle of the road and never veers off of it. He's milquetoast garbage suitable for the over 60 crowd.
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post #10 of 361
3/2/10 at 8:27am
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In the metered market houshold ratings between 11:30p-12:30a Jay Leno's return to The Tonight Show dominated Leterman and Late Show. Leno had a 5.4/14 (household rating/share) to Letterman's 3.0/8.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/02...n-return/43507

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The Leno reboot averaged a 2.0 rating/9 share in adults 18-49 vs. a 1.0/4 5.4 overnight demo ratings Monday, while David Letterman's "Late Show" scored a 2.0/9 in the same 25 cities with overnight demo information.

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/ja...ne-again-14794

But that doesn't tell us much. Conan's first Tonight Show got a 7.1/17, compared to Letterman's 2.8/7.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/06/conan...e-ratings.html

Conan got a 2.3 rating/10 share in the demo, compared to Letterman's 0.9/4.

http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwir...gs-tonight.php
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post #11 of 361
3/2/10 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

And just to prove how much The Jay Leno Show really really wasn't anything like the old Tonight Show, they reused the Jay Leno Show set, changed the lighting, added a desk and ...

hey, waddya know. It's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

It should be no surprise that NBC didn't pay for a new set.
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post #12 of 361
3/2/10 at 8:32am
I like Jay Leno. I'm glad to see him back. He delivered the ratings and cash to NBC, and once he left it all went downhill.
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post #13 of 361
3/2/10 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Conan lost his show due to his own ineptitude.

You gotta stop with this. It's just not true. Not at all.
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post #14 of 361
3/2/10 at 8:46am
Glad Jay is back... good show last night imho.
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post #15 of 361
3/2/10 at 8:53am
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It should be no surprise that NBC didn't pay for a new set.

I hear they have a really nice one at Universal Studios that's now sitting unused.
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post #16 of 361
3/2/10 at 9:02am
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I hear they have a really nice one at Universal Studios that's now sitting unused.

No, I saw some pics on another web site showing that set being dismantled.
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post #17 of 361
3/2/10 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

I dislike Jay's show for reasons. None of them involve him taking the show away from Conan. Conan lost his show due to his own ineptitude. I dislike Jay for simple reasons: He isn't funny. He's purposely inoffensive. He aims squarely at the middle of the road and never veers off of it. He's milquetoast garbage suitable for the over 60 crowd.

The Conan/Jay business was due to NBC's - and the buck surely must stop @ Zuker's - ineptitude - not Conan NOR Jay (I do admit to rooting for Conan - never been a fan of Leno at all).

Then again, one could construe a slight snub of Conan by Jay last night (although I doubt is was a conscious snub) - Leno apparently stated that Sarah Palin's scheduled appearance this week will be her 1st late night talk show spot.....um, except Palin was on The Tonight Show back in December....you know...when William Shatner did his reading from her autobiography? Conan was of course the host.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_481804.html

And NBC themselves have since yanked all evidence of Conan's tenure from online sources like Hulu.

Bill Murray was great on Dave last night, BTW!
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post #18 of 361
3/2/10 at 9:34am
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Glad Jay is back... good show last night imho.

Bad taste explains why we have all these crap reality shows on TV.
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post #19 of 361
3/2/10 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by Marcus Carr View Post

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/02...n-return/43507



http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/ja...ne-again-14794

But that doesn't tell us much. Conan's first Tonight Show got a 7.1/17, compared to Letterman's 2.8/7.

So Conan's first show was MUCH higher than Jay's? Hmmm. Doesn't bode well for Jay or NBC. What are Jay's ratings going to be when he has to compete with Letterman AND Conan? Oh by the way I'd like to know when Jay does eventually retire who is his replacement? Jimmy Fallon? Yeah that's better than Conan.
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post #20 of 361
3/2/10 at 9:59am
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So Conan's first show was MUCH higher than Jay's? Hmmm. Doesn't bode well for Jay or NBC. What are Jay's ratings going to be when he has to compete with Letterman AND Conan? Oh by the way I'd like to know when Jay does eventually retire who is his replacement? Jimmy Fallon? Yeah that's better than Conan.

I read yesterday where on TV analyst stated that Jay & NBC should start grooming a replacement soon - and maybe do it in the manner that Carson did by having a stable of guest hosts to evaluate/choose from over the course of the next several years.

Of course, getting Leno to take a day off seems to require an act of God (or at least a Letterman invite to shoot a promo for a competing show w/ Oprah in tow).
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post #21 of 361
3/2/10 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by Berk32 View Post

You gotta stop with this. It's just not true. Not at all.

He allowed other people to dictate his comedy. That's inept. If your name is on the show, do YOUR show. And even when it was apparent his show was bombing he made no effort to change until it was too late. Ineptitude.
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post #22 of 361
3/2/10 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

So Conan's first show was MUCH higher than Jay's? Hmmm. Doesn't bode well for Jay or NBC. What are Jay's ratings going to be when he has to compete with Letterman AND Conan? Oh by the way I'd like to know when Jay does eventually retire who is his replacement? Jimmy Fallon? Yeah that's better than Conan.

Yep, that speaks volumes. One would think with all those lame promos they ran it would be a semi-event to see him back on The Tonight Show. Apparently not so much. Can't say I'm displeased. I hope his numbers fall apart. Maybe he can get Hugh to get another hummer on Sunset.
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post #23 of 361
3/2/10 at 10:33am
As usual the first show starts with a bang out of the curiosity factor, but will it last? I suspect things things are back to where they were and Jay could top Dave till he retires. If Conan returns, I think it could hurt Dave more than Jay. Considering Dave's age, CBS's need for a replacement could be sooner than NBC. Is CBS grooming Craig as a replacement? When will the guest hosts start on NBC? Of course the NBC issue could be moot if Comcast decides that there is no reason to stay in the broadcast business. In the mean time, welcome back to forth (or fifth).
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post #24 of 361
3/2/10 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Berk32 View Post

You gotta stop with this. It's just not true. Not at all.

While Conan didn't get the additional support from a stronger 10p lead-in, he was far from catching fire. Jay has been dealing with NBC being in the cellar for years and still beats out the other networks. Evidently some people must know how to operate the remote control. Losing to Dave is one thing, but Conan had fallen into territory where the Tonight Show was unprofitable. If this was the high flying NBC of past years, they may have waited longer. But desperate times called for desperate measures, well aside from getting rid of the one responsible for the slide. It should be interesting to see how spin works on Comcast.
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post #25 of 361
3/2/10 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

He allowed other people to dictate his comedy. That's inept. If your name is on the show, do YOUR show. And even when it was apparent his show was bombing he made no effort to change until it was too late. Ineptitude.

While one can consider it inept or not, recall Conan's last week @ 12:30 - the gag of mothballing much of Conan's stock of characters & whatnot - some not making the move for personal reasons (loss of Joel Goddard as announcer) & others because NBC found them not as acceptible @ 11:35 (Masturbating Bear, the Preparation H guy).
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post #26 of 361
3/2/10 at 11:03am
For someone who had supposedly dreamed nearly all his life of hosting the Tonight Show, and knowing it would happen for five years, and knowing what restrictions NBC might have for that time slot, it doesn't seem like he planned too much. Wherever he lands, he better come out like a cannon ball ... or better a Conan ball!


(ducks from flying objects being thrown in this direction).
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post #27 of 361
3/2/10 at 11:08am
Updated (3): Leno Crushes Letterman in Return, In Adults 18-49 Too

Updated: in the local people meter markets Leno was twice as popular with adults 18-49, scoring a 2.0 rating vs a 1.0 rating for Letterman.

In the metered market houshold ratings between 11:30p-12:30a Jay Leno's return to The Tonight Show dominated Leterman and Late Show. Leno had a 5.4/14 (household rating/share) to Letterman's 3.0/8.
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post #28 of 361
3/2/10 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Conan lost his show due to his own ineptitude.

I agree. Conan missed a golden chance. If Conan was not skewed to the young viewers maybe Conan could have had a grown up show, and kept many of the Tonight Show viewers he lost..
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post #29 of 361
3/2/10 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Bad taste explains why we have all these crap reality shows on TV.

Only reality show I watch is Survivor, why is it we have so many thread cr*ppers nowdays?
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post #30 of 361
3/2/10 at 4:18pm
Loved Howard Stern on CBS this morning talking about how Jay rips off everyone else's ideas.
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