The Official Panasonic G20/25 Owner's Discussion Thread [no price talk] - Page 49

Originally Posted by jsntrmn

go into your picture settings and scroll down a bit.

see if the item "C.A.T.S." is disabled. if not, disable it. it's an ambient light sensor that will automatically adjust brightness according to room lighting conditions. it sounds like that's exactly what's happened to you.

also, the standard mode, as randy said, isn't going to give you the greatest picture. try THX mode as a comparison. if you like that, you can always copy the settings from it over to the Custom mode and then tweak them to your personal preference.

Camster, gonna try your settings now. i'll post back in a few.

Originally Posted by wspterp

Thanks...I'm sitting 8-9 feet away and all HD and standard programming is grainy. I'm watching in standard picture mode and I haven't messed around with the settings yet. I just feel like is grainier than normal.

Contrast is 100, brightness and color is 50 and sharpness is 75.

Also, something really alarming just happened while watching hockey...the picture all of a sudden became much darker and dull. The ice isn't as bright and looks almost grey. This is now much more of a concern than the grainy feed. Its like someone turned down all my settings. I'm getting a bad feeling about this TV...maybe I have a dud.

Originally Posted by jsntrmn

your settings look pretty good! not much of a difference from THX, but i think they've made my picture just a tiny bit "richer" or more saturated. i'm curious as to what the rest of your settings are in Custom mode, including the pro settings. assuming you changed any of them, that is.

Originally Posted by RandyWalters

What is your source for HD? If it's cable or U-Verse then there's part of your problem right there. Also, some HD channels look better than others. Some HD content looks better than others.

Standard mode isn't all that great - Custom mode is better for HD and SD programming. THX is more for watching DVD Movies but some people use it for HD as well, but for HD i'd use Custom.

Who is your cable/satellite provider?

Can you connect an antenna and check the picture quality of OTA HD?



Those are HORRIBLE settings !! 100 Contrast coupled with 75 Sharpness cannot possibly look good.

I played with a 50G25 in a dark area at Fry's about a week ago. It looked like crap so i grabbed the remote and started playing with the different Picture modes and settings and i got it to look really good in Custom mode with their decent store feed. Try these as a starting point for HD (going by memory) and do them in this order:

Set your HD Provider's box/receiver to output a 1080i signal only. Disable all the other resolutions.

Use HDMI.

Use CUSTOM mode

Change the Color Temp to Warm 2

Set HD Size to Size 2

Turn CATS Off (and turn off Color Management, NR, etc too)


Now set your Contrast in the 60-70 range

Brightness in the 40-50 range

Set Sharpness on the low end - like maybe 10 to 30 range for starters.

Set Color and Tint till they look natural and not overly saturated



Not likely, you just have to set it up properly. Maybe the CATS setting was enabled - if so turn it off.

Originally Posted by d21af88

my g20 blinks to black every once and awhile while watching cable. I'm not a videophile like you guys, but I only have 15 days left to return the TV if this isn't a normal issue and figured this would be the best place to ask. At first I figured it was just the TV preventing itself from burn-in because of channel logos, but now I'm not sure. Does this happen to anyone else?

Originally Posted by jabolino

Question for you guys, should I even use game mode for gaming? Other than increasing contrast what else does it do?

Originally Posted by Quaildog

yes thats right, theres no problem when you hard wire the tv to the router

Originally Posted by Discodog01

Thanks Camster for the settings suggestions! I am a newbie to HDTV so it is very helpful!

-R

Originally Posted by magnus7661

quick question...does EVERY g20 tv have this floating black problem? trying to decide if i need to grab this tv up or not..if so, is there any info if they are going to fix it with a firmware update? im seeing places that panasonic is saying its a new "Feature" and some people are saying that they are getting repairmen out to them to fix this problem

Originally Posted by Discodog01

Connecting to the Internet: Sorry for yet another question on this but I searched the threads and didn't find the info I am hoping to find....

I just got the G25 and would like to connect it to my comcast internet. I currently have cable connected from the wall directly to the TV in the living room, and the internet connected to my modem and wireless router in a nearby bedroom. What would be the best way to get my tv hooked up to the internet? Should I get a 2nd wireless router and connect it to the tv? I tried getting a wireless usb adaptor and it didn't work... I presume I will have to wait for the panasonic wireless adaptor to come out (Anyone know when it will be released?!). Thanks for any advice. As you can tell, I'm a bit of a newbie.

-R

Originally Posted by slyderulz

I'm curious about what the game mode actually does as well. Obviously default contrast is high, but that can be tuned to the users liking.

What I did notice is that by switching between 3 picture modes (THX, Game and Custom) at the same settings (the ones D-Nice has listed for THX: contrast 57, brightness 56, color 49, tint 0, sharpness 10-11, everything else off), the game picture mode is the only one that crushes blacks.

Originally Posted by wspterp

Not being proactive and just being plain stupid, I didn't know that I should break in my set and was watching it for a week on the default standard picture mode with 100 contrast, 50 for brightness and color and 75 sharpness. Yesterday I put on Dnice's settings. I've noticed that the picture is really inconsistent. For instance, on 60 Minutes in HD one frame looks great and then the next frame is really grainy. When watching hockey, the ice changes color, becomes really bright and has a greenish hue. I can't find a setting to make the ice look naturally white, but also not be too bright. Is is too late to break properly break in my TV? Anyone have any good settings for viewing hockey? Thanks

Originally Posted by Discodog01

Connecting to the Internet: Sorry for yet another question on this but I searched the threads and didn't find the info I am hoping to find....

I just got the G25 and would like to connect it to my comcast internet. I currently have cable connected from the wall directly to the TV in the living room, and the internet connected to my modem and wireless router in a nearby bedroom. What would be the best way to get my tv hooked up to the internet? Should I get a 2nd wireless router and connect it to the tv? I tried getting a wireless usb adaptor and it didn't work... I presume I will have to wait for the panasonic wireless adaptor to come out (Anyone know when it will be released?!). Thanks for any advice. As you can tell, I'm a bit of a newbie.

-R

Originally Posted by Camster

Actually you were breaking it in you were watching it. There is no consequence to watching the tv. I suspect you have C.A.T.S on which can makes the "brightness " fluctuate. Turn that off in the advanced setup menu under the picture settings. Besides the default Standard even with 100 Contrast is dim unless C.A.T.S is turned off. My 55 Contrast in Custom is brighter than 100 in Standard with CATS on.

I'm watching a pile of hockey on mine currently. It looks very good.

Go to Custom & set Contrast to 55, Brightness to 48, WARM2, Colour to about 45 & see how that looks. If the ice is a little too yellow for your liking then go to WARM1. I use the Mosquito something setting too which seems to improve compression artifacts from crappy HD cable a little which is what may be happening with 60 Minutes.

Originally Posted by dumon

Floating blacks are on all G20/G25 sets. It is just the way 2010 models work, unless there will be firmware update
to deal with it.

Originally Posted by CaptJimBob

I never see any problem with my picture or blacks. When a top quality HD is playing it's so nice. Picture colors are so real. Is there a way I can see what you mean? I look all the time for black problems and can't find them. I don't game if that's part of the problem.

Originally Posted by dumon

Floating blacks are on all G20/G25 sets. It is just the way 2010 models work, unless there will be firmware update
to deal with it.

Originally Posted by CaptJimBob

I never see any problem with my picture or blacks. When a top quality HD is playing it's so nice. Picture colors are so real. Is there a way I can see what you mean? I look all the time for black problems and can't find them. I don't game if that's part of the problem.

Originally Posted by jabolino

During dark scenes the TV adjusts brightness automatically. Sometimes it spikes it up and then goes back down right after. It's hard to explain it unless you see it.

Someone made a video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrq95gvFaP4

Originally Posted by fmzip

What is the difference between a G20 and a G25? On the 2010 Panasonic page, the G25's are only listed?

I thought I read this floating black issue was in the 2009 sets, the 2010 models would not have this issue. Yes/No?