The Official Panasonic G20/25 Owner's Discussion Thread [no price talk] - Page 64

Originally Posted by ken2

How bright is too bright a room for a plasma?

I'm in Hawaii, so we inherently have a lot of sunlight. My room has some light spilling in, especially in the afternoon. But the light is all perpendicular to the TV and viewers. There will be a couple of entertainment system cabinets on each side of the screen, further shading the TV.

Do you think that is too much light for a plasma to be used in the room?

Originally Posted by has78

Also which mode is best to watch HDTV and Blu-ray in? THX mode?

Can anyone recommend any good calibration settings.

Originally Posted by bcg27

If you don't mind me asking, how have you 'almost fixed' the floating blacks? Thanks!

Originally Posted by thedoc46

Hi,

My setup is as follows.. PS3 Slim as my Bluray, Yamaha RV-X2700 as my receiver and TC-P50G25 as my TV. (not rec'd yet so hence my question)

Both TV and PS3 are HDMI 1.3a , but my receiver which will be acting as a pasthrough is only HDMI 1.2a

Given the specs below, will I lose any quality if I go through my receiver?

Namely Auto-Lipsync Correction feature (8.3.2, 8.9) & xvYCC Enhanced Colorimetry (6.7.2.3) ?

Obviously for sound I'll just go with LPCM from the PS3, but my question is will my TV be getting a lesser quality picture because my receiver is 1.2a only? If I go directly from the PS3 to TV, my understanding is the optical output on the TV downgrades itself to 2.0 only? and even if it was 5.1, i'd still not get TrueHD...

Advice welcomed.


1.3a 2006/11/10

Cable and Sink modifications for Type C (Table 4-20, 4.2.6)
Source termination recommendation (after Table 4-15)
Removed undershoot and max rise/fall time limits (4.2.4).
Modified slope of TP1 and TP2 eye diagrams (4.2.4, 4.2.5)
HDMI cable assembly AC-coupling support required (4.2.6)
CEC capacitance limits changed (4.2.10)
Valid range for RGB video quantization added (6.6)
Added audio sample rate exceptions for ARC (7.3, 7.3.1, 7.3.2)
Added Audio Rate Control Overview (7.11)

1.3 2006/06/22

Significant new features:
- Type C Mini-Connector (4.1.9.5, 4.1.9.6)
- Cable Categories 1 and 2 (4.2.6)
- Deep Color [4:4:4] (6.5, 8.3.2)
- Reference Cable Equalizer (4.2.3.2, 4.2.5, 4.2.6)
- Higher-speed single-link (4.1.2, 4.2.3,through 4.2.6, 8.3.2)
- xvYCC Enhanced Colorimetry (6.7.2.3)
- Gamut Metadata transmission (5.3.12, 6.7.3, Appendix E))
- DST audio format (5.3.10, 7.6.3)
- High-bitrate compressed audio formats (5.3.11, 7.2.4, 7.3.3, 7.6.2)
- Auto-Lipsync Correction feature (8.3.2, 8.9)
Updated normative reference from CEA-861-B to -D (1.2, throughout).
Updated Overview for new features (3)
Several minor editorial (throughout)

1.2a 2005/12/14

Changes to CEC supplement (see supplement for details)
Eliminated IOFF and made VOFF normative (4.2.4)
Changed CEC resistance to 5 ohms (4.2.10)
Clarified DVI device discrimination (8.3.3)
Several minor editorial (throughout)

1.2 2005/08/22

Removed limitations on Type A connector usage (4.1.2, 6.1)
Required new connector mechanical features, optional in 1.1 (4.1.9)
Required Sink support for future AC-coupled Sources (4.2.5)
Add note regarding maximum ratings of Sink (4.2.5)
Clarified Cable Assembly use of +5V Power (4.2.7)
Removed incorrect testing method for DDC capacitance (4.2.8)
Clarified when separate CEC lines on inputs are allowed (4.2.10)
Add maximum resistance spec for interconnected CEC line (4.2.10)
Remove CEC leakage current limit while in standby (4.2.10)
Relaxed YCBCR output requirement for RGB devices (6.2.3)
Added support for additional video formats (6.2.4, and 7.3.3, 8.2.1)
Corrected sample rate requirement from 1000 ppm to ±1000 ppm (7.2.6)
Clarified use of Speaker Allocation Data Block (7.4)
Added support for One Bit audio (7.9, and throughout)
Clarified exception for 640x480p (VGA) declaration in EDID (8.3.4)
Loosened requirement for duplicated DTD declarations (8.3.4)
High-Definition Multimedia Interface Specification Version 1.3a
HDMI Licensing, LLC Page iv
Added recommendation for setting Supports_AI (9.2)
Clarified the behavior of Repeater to Sink with Supports_AI (9.3.2)
Clarified rule for DVD-Audio ACP Packet transmission (9.3.5)
Additional minor editorial (throughout)

Originally Posted by StevenG20

I can get into the service menu but then I have no idea how to get to the place where you do the offsets. I've run the slides and have everything done except the offsets because I don't know how to navigate/enter in. I tried Post 1541 and it had a broken link that was supposed to help.

Almost total newbie.

Afraid I may have already unintentionally altered some settings.


Any help is greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by StevenG20

I was wondering if someone has posted the original VIVID settings? I think I unintentionally was changing these and was able to reverse out of it ONLY because you all reiterated to write everything down. I am not sure though if I got my VIVID Rcut setting back to normal. I think it should be 7A without any changes but trying to confirm.

I got a 54G20 and did the D-Nice method with the appropriate slides. It looks great to me but I'm obviously not into this as much as you guys but I appreciate the great help. I've learned a ton really.

Steven

Originally Posted by BeKind437

I just bought a 42" G25 and an upconverting DVD player, a $60 Sony from Costco...I did a comparison test, watched a DVD clip with an HDMI connection then with a composite connection, no difference in PQ. I'm confused, does the G25 upconvert DVDs? Was it a waste to buy an upconverting DVD player?

I don't want a BD player yet, but I didn't realize an old standard DVD player would have been fine until I do get one next year.

Originally Posted by BeKind437

I just bought a 42" G25 and an upconverting DVD player, a $60 Sony from Costco...I did a comparison test, watched a DVD clip with an HDMI connection then with a composite connection, no difference in PQ. I'm confused, does the G25 upconvert DVDs? Was it a waste to buy an upconverting DVD player?

I don't want a BD player yet, but I didn't realize an old standard DVD player would have been fine until I do get one next year.

Originally Posted by Rick1000

Here is Cnets review on the G20:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t....html?tag=also

Originally Posted by jimmyjames1700

speaking of the cnet review, anyone see the "calibrated" picture settings they used for the review? Whats up with the brightness?

Originally Posted by IRCRomeo

Hey all, just purchased a G20 today and will receive it on Friday.

I spent an hour today on the phone with Panasonic prior to purchase it and had asked many specific questions, particularly about black levels.

The tech agent stated to me 100% absolutely positively the 2010 models do not have the lower black level issues. I insisted I heard otherwise, and she put me on hold and confirmed with a 'specialized tech' for the G20/25 series.

Originally Posted by ellpolo_loco

I just picked up this set today and havent watched anything on it yet ( doing break in stuff ) but I was a lil disappointed that CNET found that this TV cannot handle 1080p/24 material.

Originally Posted by IRCRomeo

Please pardon my ignorance, but what is 1080p/24 material?

Originally Posted by Extollere

full resolution display, playing at 24 frames per second. Basically what most Blu-Ray movies' native displays are.

I'm curious about the Panasonic though. If you turn off 24p on your blu-ray player, how is the image displayed on screen? Is it converted into 60p? Will it look more or less as it does on my CRT right now (which does not accept 24p)?

Originally Posted by hwc

I just want to say that there is a whole lot of hand-wringing in this thread.

I go back to the beginning with big screen TV, back to the first Advent and Henry Kloss front projectors. For the last seven years, I've been watching HDTV on a Sony CRT rear projection TV. I took delivery of a 50 inch G20 yesterday and -- good lord -- the picture on this thing in THX mode is nothing short of stunning.

To be able to plug in a TV, flip it on, and select a factory THX setting that is this good out of the box? Amazing.

Sometimes I think these forums lose sight of the forest through the trees, getting caught up in minutia of black levels and this or that arcane specification.