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post #8431 of 8511
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Originally Posted by spelcheker View Post

I'm the original poster of this thread. Just thought I'd pop in and say I'm coming up on 2 years with the set, and have no rising blacks, no floating blacks, no buzzing, no burn-in. I'm still so happy, I haven't even looked to see what's going on with the 2011 and 2012 models.

what settings are you using?
did you get a pro cal?
post #8432 of 8511
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Originally Posted by 60SXRD View Post

It's the same styling on my 50G25, always been that way.

That's good to know.
post #8433 of 8511
I had a strange experience today with my G25 today.

Setting the picture mode to "standard" causes IR interference with my cable box's IR sensor, it will sporadically accept commands from the remote control.

The TV and the AV receiver do not get affected when this happens.

I am aware that plasma displays can cause IR interference but it is so strange that only one video mode causes problems.

Standard is a power saving mode but I wonder what about it causes IR interference compared to other picture modes?
post #8434 of 8511
I watched a total of 4 hours last night. Some cable TV and then a DVD. The "problem" did not come back. The picture looked fantastic as ever. Hopefully it was just a fluke thing.
post #8435 of 8511
Well, similar to a previous poster on this page, our TV 'popped' while powering down today. Won't turn back on, just flashes the red power indicator 10 times. The really irritating thing is that it is 3 months out of warranty. I really hope this isn't a more widespread issue for folks as that kind of lifespan is pathetic. We use the TV a lot, granted, but that's no excuse for this kind of problem.

I'm extremely glad I purchased a square trade 3-year warranty. Now here's hoping they replace or repair it as promised.

It's too bad as I've loved this TV, picture was absolutely fantastic.
post #8436 of 8511
Hey guys,

I've been looking for the latest firmware for the tcp50G25 for a while and Panny's site is still showing V3 from sept 2010. Is it really the latest version for a canadian set?

I've read on this topic that some users can have MLB tv through vieracast. Is that true?

Sorry if the question has been answered but the last time on read this thread there was 122 pages and now there's 282 so I can't read it all.

Thanks
post #8437 of 8511
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Originally Posted by fernboy61 View Post

Hey guys,

I've been looking for the latest firmware for the tcp50G25 for a while and Panny's site is still showing V3 from sept 2010. Is it really the latest version for a canadian set?

I've read on this topic that some users can have MLB tv through vieracast. Is that true?

Sorry if the question has been answered but the last time on read this thread there was 122 pages and now there's 282 so I can't read it all.

Thanks

I'm in the U.S. and 3.720 is the latest FW. MLB TV, NBA Gametime, MLS, and NHL are the sports widgets currently available on my set.

Licensing & rights arrangements for Canada might be different than down here. At least you have better health care than us
post #8438 of 8511
Does the G20 have audio channel return as a feature? My AVR does, and I want to make sure before buying a HDTV antenna.
post #8439 of 8511
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Originally Posted by Joe Pick View Post

Does the G20 have audio channel return as a feature? My AVR does, and I want to make sure before buying a HDTV antenna.

Yes, I got it working with an Onkyo amp.
post #8440 of 8511
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post


Yes, I got it working with an Onkyo amp.

Thanks. Hdmi 1 only but yes.
post #8441 of 8511
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Originally Posted by Joe Pick View Post

Does the G20 have audio channel return as a feature? My AVR does, and I want to make sure before buying a HDTV antenna.

I'm curious, what would cause you not to get an antenna? What are you doing where you would choose not to get reception?
post #8442 of 8511
Hello,

I have owned the tc-p54G20 since early may 2010 and have not had any issues with it at all. Very happy with the purchase, slight buzzing on mute but nothing major. buzzing can change depending on what colour shows up on commercials etc. .white producing a little more buzzing. Anyway, just wanted to know if there is an update on the black levels decreasing on these t.v's. Watching blu rays the black levels still look as good as when I first bought the t.v., but maybe my eyes have been accustomed over the last two years and blacks have decreased. Does anyone have any measurable info. on the black levels over the last 2 years. thanks.
post #8443 of 8511
I have been a very happy owner of my 42" G25 since March of 2010. Recently, I started having video drop to grey static after 30-45 minutes of viewing, I first suspected the Blu-Ray player of going bad, but then I had issues with the Xbox playing movies (oddly, but not during video games) and the iMac playing movies. Until today, everything has run into a sony HT and then out to HDMI 1 on the TV. Yesterday I moved the HT input to HDMI 2 and I just experienced the signal drop again while using the iMac. I don't think the issue is the Sony HT because I experienced this once on the blu-ray player while running direct to the TV's HDMI 1 input.

Finally I can't always replicate the issue. Today I have taken the HT out of the signal path and testing multiple components to see if I can get a repeat occurrence on all 3 HDMI ports.

Has anyone else heard of HDMI issues? what should I expect as far as repair is concerned? Thanks for any help.
post #8444 of 8511
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Yes, I got it working with an Onkyo amp.

+1

I have my OTA function hooked up to my Pio vsx-1121. With my remote programmed to switch the inputs I can switch back to OTA in those rare rain fade events and have audio fully functioning through the AV amp and my 7.1 surround system.
post #8445 of 8511
Just a quick note on my 50" G20. I hit my second anniversary with the tv, had it delivered two years ago today. April 2010 build with a little less than 1,200 hours on it. Aside from occasional annoyance from floating blacks, instances of which seem to have lessened as the set aged, I'm happy. It also seems to have shrunk since I bought it I pretty much just use it to watch Blu-Ray movies and it still performs beautifully, knock on wood. If all goes according to plan, I'm likely going to replace it with a 55" VT50 this year though...I'm tired of not having 3D! (I guess I'm one of the few who actually enjoy 3D). I even bought a Panasonic 310 BD Player last year in anticipation of a 3D panel
post #8446 of 8511
owner of a 50" G20 here. i've had the set for a little over two years now. if i recall correctly (not at home right now so i can't double check), it's a march 2010 build.

the set has been fantastic. no floating blacks and she still looks as good as the day i got her.

i've been having an issue with buzzing lately, though. the set has always buzzed a tiny bit, but typically the buzzing could only be heard in a quiet room with the volume muted. over the past few weeks, i've noticed the buzzing while watching programming, and it seems to be getting progressively worse as i find myself actually turning the volume up a few notches to drown it out.

anything i can do to counteract this issue?

i did purchase an extended warranty through best buy, but i'm hoping to avoid having to deal with them. they'll probably send out a "geek squad" guy who will tell me nothing's wrong with the set. then i'll have to fight with them to get a replacement. and i don't even really want a replacement anyway. this set has been so good to me (other than the recent buzzing), and with my luck, a new one will end up having worse issues.

edit: i should note that i watch everything in thx mode (with slightly tweaked settings but nothing too advanced, and definitely nothing from any hidden menus). most viewing is over hdmi from a verizon fios stb, occasionally some movies over hdmi from a boxee box.
post #8447 of 8511
Have had my 50" for about 16 months now, and have really enjoyed it until recently. I think I have permanent burn in from a channel logo and I'm really bummed.

I used to watch a regular amount of programming on the USA HD network, say about 5 hours a week. They have a particularly obnoxious logo - bold lettering and pretty bright. I noticed about three months ago that the logo's shadow appeared in white / light scenes on other programming. I immediately stopped watching USA, watched only other HD channels/movies, and have run the scrolling bar repeatedly.

Unfortunately, three months later the logo's shadow is still there. It might be a bit less severe than originally noticed, but it hasn't come close to going away. I feel like after three months of trying to get rid of it, it must be permanent. Ugh. This is the kind of thing that made me really sit on the fence about plasma, and now I regret it. I'm not a frequent TV buyer so I'm stuck with it for possibly years.
post #8448 of 8511
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Originally Posted by higher_flyer View Post

Have had my 50" for about 16 months now, and have really enjoyed it until recently. I think I have permanent burn in from a channel logo and I'm really bummed.

I used to watch a regular amount of programming on the USA HD network, say about 5 hours a week. They have a particularly obnoxious logo - bold lettering and pretty bright. I noticed about three months ago that the logo's shadow appeared in white / light scenes on other programming. I immediately stopped watching USA, watched only other HD channels/movies, and have run the scrolling bar repeatedly.

Unfortunately, three months later the logo's shadow is still there. It might be a bit less severe than originally noticed, but it hasn't come close to going away. I feel like after three months of trying to get rid of it, it must be permanent. Ugh. This is the kind of thing that made me really sit on the fence about plasma, and now I regret it. I'm not a frequent TV buyer so I'm stuck with it for possibly years.

I hear that a pixel flipper can help. I think the WOW disk has one. Please let me know how it goes.
post #8449 of 8511
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

I hear that a pixel flipper can help. I think the WOW disk has one. Please let me know how it goes.

I'm not familiar with a pixel flipper. How is it different than the pixel orbiter function already available in the TV? Thanks.
post #8450 of 8511
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Originally Posted by higher_flyer View Post

I'm not familiar with a pixel flipper. How is it different than the pixel orbiter function already available in the TV? Thanks.

Orbiter shifts the pixel, pixel flipper fires red green and blue sequentially
post #8451 of 8511
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Originally Posted by higher_flyer View Post

Have had my 50" for about 16 months now, and have really enjoyed it until recently. I think I have permanent burn in from a channel logo and I'm really bummed.

I used to watch a regular amount of programming on the USA HD network, say about 5 hours a week. They have a particularly obnoxious logo - bold lettering and pretty bright. I noticed about three months ago that the logo's shadow appeared in white / light scenes on other programming. I immediately stopped watching USA, watched only other HD channels/movies, and have run the scrolling bar repeatedly.

Unfortunately, three months later the logo's shadow is still there. It might be a bit less severe than originally noticed, but it hasn't come close to going away. I feel like after three months of trying to get rid of it, it must be permanent. Ugh. This is the kind of thing that made me really sit on the fence about plasma, and now I regret it. I'm not a frequent TV buyer so I'm stuck with it for possibly years.

What level of Brightness and Contrast settings you have on the set? I betting probably in the 70s or higher?
post #8452 of 8511
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Originally Posted by 80sGuy View Post

What level of Brightness and Contrast settings you have on the set? I betting probably in the 70s or higher?

I watch everything in THX mode, and don't think I tweaked those settings from their default. Contrast = 57; Brightness = 56; these have been the same settings since the beginning.
post #8453 of 8511
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Orbiter shifts the pixel, pixel flipper fires red green and blue sequentially

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I'm wondering if the color slides most of us used for break-in would do the same.

From a technical standpoint, I'm curious to know how either of these methods would be any more effective than watching lots of other HD programming for 3+ months. Thanks for enlightening.
post #8454 of 8511
Just an update on my Panasonic G20. From day one, a little over 2 yrs
now. This set has been just great no buzzing, great picture. Just plain
no problems...
post #8455 of 8511
^^^

Same here (knocking on wood).

Temporary ghosting / image persistence sometimes appears but no permanant image retention. The original quiet buzz emanating from the rear of the panel hasn't gotten any louder. I'm sure MLL has risen from day one but I'm not a very critical viewer and probably have gotten used to it. I'm most pleased with the AR coat on the panel. Makes occassional daytime use tolerable.

Pretty good value so far.
post #8456 of 8511
Had mine since July 2010 with absolutely no issues and great picture. Soon will be looking to step up to a 65". Anyone gone from one of these sets to the ST/GT/VT50 series? I got this TV at an excellent value with a free HTIB set with a bluray player. This year's same model is about $500 more than what I bought this one for so I'm a bit hesitant.
post #8457 of 8511
I have a 42G25 and she is the beauty that led me away from LCD. I have owned both the 60GT50 and 55VT50. IMO, the price difference (especially right now) is not worth the slight improvement in pq when sizes are equal. The GT is a beauty with excellent shadow detail. If you enjoy the THX of the G25 then you like the GT, if you only use custom then the ST50 will not disappoint you and the improvements in the VT are so slight that you should never have any regrets for buying the ST or GT. If your purchase leaves you with extra $$$ then put it into a professional calibration or a bigger GT50.
post #8458 of 8511
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Originally Posted by showsjohn View Post

Had mine since July 2010 with absolutely no issues and great picture. Soon will be looking to step up to a 65". Anyone gone from one of these sets to the ST/GT/VT50 series? I got this TV at an excellent value with a free HTIB set with a bluray player. This year's same model is about $500 more than what I bought this one for so I'm a bit hesitant.

The 60GT50 is at an amazing price at Paul's TV and you might be able to get Amazon to price match them. I did. They might argue that Paul's charges $100 for white glove but Amazon doesn't provide white glove, they now call it enhanced and unless they can guarantee you that CEVA will deliver then your set may not get assembled and placed where you want it (no one hangs tvs on the wall w/o a separate fee). Pilot will only open the box, plug it in, turn it on and allow you to check for damage/defects. Pauls states that their service will unpack and place the tv where you want it, which IMO means the stand has to be attached. Any way, that is one argument that could be made to get Amazon to price match exactly to Paul's.
post #8459 of 8511
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

The 60GT50 is at an amazing price at Paul's TV and you might be able to get Amazon to price match them. I did. They might argue that Paul's charges $100 for white glove but Amazon doesn't provide white glove, they now call it enhanced and unless they can guarantee you that CEVA will deliver then your set may not get assembled and placed where you want it (no one hangs tvs on the wall w/o a separate fee). Pilot will only open the box, plug it in, turn it on and allow you to check for damage/defects. Pauls states that their service will unpack and place the tv where you want it, which IMO means the stand has to be attached. Any way, that is one argument that could be made to get Amazon to price match exactly to Paul's.

Well, thankfully my apartment complex's maintenance installs the mount and TV free of charge. Its one of the "amenities" here, I assume to assure the tenant doesn't jack the wall up real good. My only concern buying online is the return policy in case of a defective/buzzy set. I'm very particular about it being "perfect". Do you have experience ordering from Pauls?
post #8460 of 8511
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Originally Posted by showsjohn View Post

My only concern buying online is the return policy in case of a defective/buzzy set. I'm very particular about it being "perfect". Do you have experience ordering from Pauls?

So am I plus I have dinky muscles so hauling tvs back and forth is not something I want to do. Amazon is the only place I fully trust. I bought the 55GT50, 60GT50 (2 times) & 55VT50 through them. The best part was they picked up at the same time they brought the new one. I only had Pilot hand one delivery and one pickup. I bribed the delivery guy to assemble it and place it on the credenza (only 1 guy for the VT50). I also find it very attractive that I have never had to fight with them either. When you buy directly from them and they indicate free 30 day return, you can be assured that it's really hassle free.

Oh and 24 month interest free Amazon Store Card financing is sweet too.

Oops, sorry ... no history with ordering from Pauls.
Edited by sheshechic - 6/26/12 at 7:05pm
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