or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › The Official Panasonic G20/25 Owner's Discussion Thread [no price talk]
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Official Panasonic G20/25 Owner's Discussion Thread [no price talk] - Page 282

post #8431 of 8528
Just a quick note on my 50" G20. I hit my second anniversary with the tv, had it delivered two years ago today. April 2010 build with a little less than 1,200 hours on it. Aside from occasional annoyance from floating blacks, instances of which seem to have lessened as the set aged, I'm happy. It also seems to have shrunk since I bought it I pretty much just use it to watch Blu-Ray movies and it still performs beautifully, knock on wood. If all goes according to plan, I'm likely going to replace it with a 55" VT50 this year though...I'm tired of not having 3D! (I guess I'm one of the few who actually enjoy 3D). I even bought a Panasonic 310 BD Player last year in anticipation of a 3D panel
post #8432 of 8528
owner of a 50" G20 here. i've had the set for a little over two years now. if i recall correctly (not at home right now so i can't double check), it's a march 2010 build.

the set has been fantastic. no floating blacks and she still looks as good as the day i got her.

i've been having an issue with buzzing lately, though. the set has always buzzed a tiny bit, but typically the buzzing could only be heard in a quiet room with the volume muted. over the past few weeks, i've noticed the buzzing while watching programming, and it seems to be getting progressively worse as i find myself actually turning the volume up a few notches to drown it out.

anything i can do to counteract this issue?

i did purchase an extended warranty through best buy, but i'm hoping to avoid having to deal with them. they'll probably send out a "geek squad" guy who will tell me nothing's wrong with the set. then i'll have to fight with them to get a replacement. and i don't even really want a replacement anyway. this set has been so good to me (other than the recent buzzing), and with my luck, a new one will end up having worse issues.

edit: i should note that i watch everything in thx mode (with slightly tweaked settings but nothing too advanced, and definitely nothing from any hidden menus). most viewing is over hdmi from a verizon fios stb, occasionally some movies over hdmi from a boxee box.
post #8433 of 8528
Have had my 50" for about 16 months now, and have really enjoyed it until recently. I think I have permanent burn in from a channel logo and I'm really bummed.

I used to watch a regular amount of programming on the USA HD network, say about 5 hours a week. They have a particularly obnoxious logo - bold lettering and pretty bright. I noticed about three months ago that the logo's shadow appeared in white / light scenes on other programming. I immediately stopped watching USA, watched only other HD channels/movies, and have run the scrolling bar repeatedly.

Unfortunately, three months later the logo's shadow is still there. It might be a bit less severe than originally noticed, but it hasn't come close to going away. I feel like after three months of trying to get rid of it, it must be permanent. Ugh. This is the kind of thing that made me really sit on the fence about plasma, and now I regret it. I'm not a frequent TV buyer so I'm stuck with it for possibly years.
post #8434 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by higher_flyer View Post

Have had my 50" for about 16 months now, and have really enjoyed it until recently. I think I have permanent burn in from a channel logo and I'm really bummed.

I used to watch a regular amount of programming on the USA HD network, say about 5 hours a week. They have a particularly obnoxious logo - bold lettering and pretty bright. I noticed about three months ago that the logo's shadow appeared in white / light scenes on other programming. I immediately stopped watching USA, watched only other HD channels/movies, and have run the scrolling bar repeatedly.

Unfortunately, three months later the logo's shadow is still there. It might be a bit less severe than originally noticed, but it hasn't come close to going away. I feel like after three months of trying to get rid of it, it must be permanent. Ugh. This is the kind of thing that made me really sit on the fence about plasma, and now I regret it. I'm not a frequent TV buyer so I'm stuck with it for possibly years.

I hear that a pixel flipper can help. I think the WOW disk has one. Please let me know how it goes.
post #8435 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

I hear that a pixel flipper can help. I think the WOW disk has one. Please let me know how it goes.

I'm not familiar with a pixel flipper. How is it different than the pixel orbiter function already available in the TV? Thanks.
post #8436 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by higher_flyer View Post

I'm not familiar with a pixel flipper. How is it different than the pixel orbiter function already available in the TV? Thanks.

Orbiter shifts the pixel, pixel flipper fires red green and blue sequentially
post #8437 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by higher_flyer View Post

Have had my 50" for about 16 months now, and have really enjoyed it until recently. I think I have permanent burn in from a channel logo and I'm really bummed.

I used to watch a regular amount of programming on the USA HD network, say about 5 hours a week. They have a particularly obnoxious logo - bold lettering and pretty bright. I noticed about three months ago that the logo's shadow appeared in white / light scenes on other programming. I immediately stopped watching USA, watched only other HD channels/movies, and have run the scrolling bar repeatedly.

Unfortunately, three months later the logo's shadow is still there. It might be a bit less severe than originally noticed, but it hasn't come close to going away. I feel like after three months of trying to get rid of it, it must be permanent. Ugh. This is the kind of thing that made me really sit on the fence about plasma, and now I regret it. I'm not a frequent TV buyer so I'm stuck with it for possibly years.

What level of Brightness and Contrast settings you have on the set? I betting probably in the 70s or higher?
post #8438 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by 80sGuy View Post

What level of Brightness and Contrast settings you have on the set? I betting probably in the 70s or higher?

I watch everything in THX mode, and don't think I tweaked those settings from their default. Contrast = 57; Brightness = 56; these have been the same settings since the beginning.
post #8439 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Orbiter shifts the pixel, pixel flipper fires red green and blue sequentially

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I'm wondering if the color slides most of us used for break-in would do the same.

From a technical standpoint, I'm curious to know how either of these methods would be any more effective than watching lots of other HD programming for 3+ months. Thanks for enlightening.
post #8440 of 8528
Just an update on my Panasonic G20. From day one, a little over 2 yrs
now. This set has been just great no buzzing, great picture. Just plain
no problems...
post #8441 of 8528
^^^

Same here (knocking on wood).

Temporary ghosting / image persistence sometimes appears but no permanant image retention. The original quiet buzz emanating from the rear of the panel hasn't gotten any louder. I'm sure MLL has risen from day one but I'm not a very critical viewer and probably have gotten used to it. I'm most pleased with the AR coat on the panel. Makes occassional daytime use tolerable.

Pretty good value so far.
post #8442 of 8528
Had mine since July 2010 with absolutely no issues and great picture. Soon will be looking to step up to a 65". Anyone gone from one of these sets to the ST/GT/VT50 series? I got this TV at an excellent value with a free HTIB set with a bluray player. This year's same model is about $500 more than what I bought this one for so I'm a bit hesitant.
post #8443 of 8528
I have a 42G25 and she is the beauty that led me away from LCD. I have owned both the 60GT50 and 55VT50. IMO, the price difference (especially right now) is not worth the slight improvement in pq when sizes are equal. The GT is a beauty with excellent shadow detail. If you enjoy the THX of the G25 then you like the GT, if you only use custom then the ST50 will not disappoint you and the improvements in the VT are so slight that you should never have any regrets for buying the ST or GT. If your purchase leaves you with extra $$$ then put it into a professional calibration or a bigger GT50.
post #8444 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by showsjohn View Post

Had mine since July 2010 with absolutely no issues and great picture. Soon will be looking to step up to a 65". Anyone gone from one of these sets to the ST/GT/VT50 series? I got this TV at an excellent value with a free HTIB set with a bluray player. This year's same model is about $500 more than what I bought this one for so I'm a bit hesitant.

The 60GT50 is at an amazing price at Paul's TV and you might be able to get Amazon to price match them. I did. They might argue that Paul's charges $100 for white glove but Amazon doesn't provide white glove, they now call it enhanced and unless they can guarantee you that CEVA will deliver then your set may not get assembled and placed where you want it (no one hangs tvs on the wall w/o a separate fee). Pilot will only open the box, plug it in, turn it on and allow you to check for damage/defects. Pauls states that their service will unpack and place the tv where you want it, which IMO means the stand has to be attached. Any way, that is one argument that could be made to get Amazon to price match exactly to Paul's.
post #8445 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

The 60GT50 is at an amazing price at Paul's TV and you might be able to get Amazon to price match them. I did. They might argue that Paul's charges $100 for white glove but Amazon doesn't provide white glove, they now call it enhanced and unless they can guarantee you that CEVA will deliver then your set may not get assembled and placed where you want it (no one hangs tvs on the wall w/o a separate fee). Pilot will only open the box, plug it in, turn it on and allow you to check for damage/defects. Pauls states that their service will unpack and place the tv where you want it, which IMO means the stand has to be attached. Any way, that is one argument that could be made to get Amazon to price match exactly to Paul's.

Well, thankfully my apartment complex's maintenance installs the mount and TV free of charge. Its one of the "amenities" here, I assume to assure the tenant doesn't jack the wall up real good. My only concern buying online is the return policy in case of a defective/buzzy set. I'm very particular about it being "perfect". Do you have experience ordering from Pauls?
post #8446 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by showsjohn View Post

My only concern buying online is the return policy in case of a defective/buzzy set. I'm very particular about it being "perfect". Do you have experience ordering from Pauls?

So am I plus I have dinky muscles so hauling tvs back and forth is not something I want to do. Amazon is the only place I fully trust. I bought the 55GT50, 60GT50 (2 times) & 55VT50 through them. The best part was they picked up at the same time they brought the new one. I only had Pilot hand one delivery and one pickup. I bribed the delivery guy to assemble it and place it on the credenza (only 1 guy for the VT50). I also find it very attractive that I have never had to fight with them either. When you buy directly from them and they indicate free 30 day return, you can be assured that it's really hassle free.

Oh and 24 month interest free Amazon Store Card financing is sweet too.

Oops, sorry ... no history with ordering from Pauls.
Edited by sheshechic - 6/26/12 at 7:05pm
post #8447 of 8528
Folks, I need some help.
I have a TCP54G25 for about 1 1/2 years now. The TV will not turn on and the red LED is constantly blinking. The blink rate
is about 3 seconds or so. The only way to stop it (the blinking) is to pull the power cable.

I looked at the service manual but it's not clear as to what it could be. I can replace a board if needed (I already had replaced the A board).
post #8448 of 8528
I've had a 54G25 for almost two years now and am really happy with it. I've a couple of questions that have come I hope someone can answer for me.

Does the screen have a plastic or glass surface? I would like to know so if I have to clean it I won't scratch it. I know they should both be cleaned with no harsh chemicals and a non-abrasive cloth but if it's plastic I don't really want to ever clean it!

Is there some way to get Netflix to play at higher resolutions? It looks like crap right now and I am on a wired broadband connection.

TIA
post #8449 of 8528
Some content I think only plays in SD. But you can check on your account page through Netflix's website, there's an option which sets the preferred streaming quality. Mine for some reason was set to 0.3 GB an hour which resulted in very bad quality so I upped it all the way. Give it a try.
post #8450 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeti1234 View Post

I've had a 54G25 for almost two years now and am really happy with it. I've a couple of questions that have come I hope someone can answer for me.
Does the screen have a plastic or glass surface? I would like to know so if I have to clean it I won't scratch it. I know they should both be cleaned with no harsh chemicals and a non-abrasive cloth but if it's plastic I don't really want to ever clean it!
Is there some way to get Netflix to play at higher resolutions? It looks like crap right now and I am on a wired broadband connection.
TIA
For higher quality pictures, there is a setting on your Netflix account page. You must log in from a computer and got to to: Your Account & Help>Settings>Manage video quality>Select BEST quality. When you stream Netflix, if there is no 'HD' noting on the movie info then you'll most likely going to get crap quality, especially with anything that's offered from 'Starz Play' and certainly not worth watching. Some other SD contents are pretty good too but nothing like HD. Sometimes HD contents can look blurry due to slow internet speeds, and whenever they are being buffered. The best way to connect is to use an ethernet cable. Wireless connection can cause slow speeds and other issues. By the way, are you using a 'WD Live Streaming' wireless device?

Sorry, forgot about your screen question. I'm sure it is hard plastic and almost like glass. But to be safe ALWAYS use water or lightly soapy water (dish-washing liquid). It's better just too stick with a damp cloth towel.
Edited by 80sGuy - 7/9/12 at 1:31pm
post #8451 of 8528
G25, anyone know what the problem is here? Blue-green and red bars? All inputs.

post #8452 of 8528
I have a variety of ways to stream Netflix to the TV but I am just referring to the built in Netflix app in the TV, it's almost unusable. Off my Roku or Blu-ray player it's HD though. I checked my account settings and I don't have any of the quality settings selected but I haven't had a chance to test before and after selecting yet. Thanks for the info, I hate to clean plastic screens as they never really seem to come completely clean without enough pressure/rubbing to keep them from scratching.
post #8453 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by ru4real View Post


Still under warranty? Contact Panasonic tech support and send them a picture.

I had a problem just one month after purchase. Rows of colored dots started appearing across the screen. It got worse over time. The "A" board had to be replaced.
525x525px-LL-5dc05575_vbattach222545.jpeg

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigslim View Post


Yep. New A-board time. I was pleasantly surprised when my board was replaced...both my wife and I noticed a vast improvement in picture quality. Less grain!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeper View Post

G25, anyone know what the problem is here? Blue-green and red bars? All inputs.

I had a similar problem in July 2010. The A board, the one with all the input connectors, was replaced.
post #8454 of 8528
I hate to ask this, but how much does such a replacement usually cost?
post #8455 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richter X View Post

I hate to ask this, but how much does such a replacement usually cost?
I don't know, I had it replaced under warranty. A local electronics repair shop could give an estimate.
post #8456 of 8528
Hi, the firmware page on the Panasonic site

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/down_navt.html

Is no longer available, I tried searching within their site without success, any hint?

Thanks a lot rolleyes.gif
post #8457 of 8528
I had that problem when I switched to THX mode (ever time).
Also, I had the dashed, horizontal, red line on the bottom half during all times.

It was the Main board (A-board). Replaced with one (two since the first one was defective also) and
the issue went away.

Check out eBay if you want to do it yourself.

Good luck.
post #8458 of 8528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeper View Post

G25, anyone know what the problem is here? Blue-green and red bars? All inputs.



I had that problem when I switched to THX mode (ever time).
Also, I had the dashed, horizontal, red line on the bottom half during all times.

It was the Main board (A-board). Replaced with one (two since the first one was defective also) and
the issue went away.

Check out eBay if you want to do it yourself.

Good luck.
post #8459 of 8528
Picture mode was on THX. Changed to other picture modes and the bars are on all modes except standard.
Standard picture mode looks normal.
post #8460 of 8528
I have had the GT25 since 2010. The image was great when I first got it. I could make out everything in dark scenes and used the preset THX mode for my picture settings.

Over the last few months a dramatic change to image brightness or contrast has occurred. In night time scenes or dark scenes it is very hard to make out what is going on.

This seems to have happened almost over night. Adjusting the brightness or contrast does not seem to really do much at all. Any idea what I can do or what is happening? Thanks
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › The Official Panasonic G20/25 Owner's Discussion Thread [no price talk]