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post #1651 of 3301
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

I gave up satellite to get a Tivo Premiere + Comcast to save a crazy amount of money. biggrin.gif
Sadly, it'll only work the opposite way for me. Even in the third year of DTV when promotional pricing expires, I'd still be saving some money. It's not just that, though, cable (and Comcast as a company) have been giving me a lot of headaches. If I stick with them, they can thank Tivo.
post #1652 of 3301
Yeah, I dropped D*, got a Tivo with lifetime + Comcast basic service + Netflix and saved a lot. My Comcast TV bill has gone up 30% since I made this move and is now a whopping $13.00 a month. I figure I've got everything I need for about half what D* charges.
post #1653 of 3301
New to Tivo so bear with me. While you finish watching a recorded show, is there an easy way to erase it without going back through the menus?
post #1654 of 3301
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

New to Tivo so bear with me. While you finish watching a recorded show, is there an easy way to erase it without going back through the menus?

If you are within 5 minutes from the end of the recording, hit the TiVo button. You will be prompted if you want to delete it or not. Or just fast-forward to the end of the recording and you'll get the same prompt.
post #1655 of 3301
Congrats, and welcome to TiVo
Press the BACK arrow, Left of SELECT and it will take you to the menus to Delete.

Another shortcut to delete programs from the "My Shows" list is using the Clear button.

What model did your end up getting?
Edited by Bryan_CoxPHX - 6/12/12 at 2:16pm
post #1656 of 3301
Thanks, guys. Yeah Bryan, I seem to be following in your footsteps. I still have the 8300 and external- need to burn off the recordings.

I got a used Premiere with lifetime that had been refitted with a 2 tb drive. Would have looked into the xl4, but too worried about the problems. Amazingly, the first cable card and tuning adapter the cable guy tried worked right off the bat. Unfortunately, I had to have them back out two days later to improve the signal quality. Still not great, but seems to do the trick at minimum signal levels according to the tivo diagnostics.

Thanks for your help over the years.
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

If you are within 5 minutes from the end of the recording, hit the TiVo button. You will be prompted if you want to delete it or not. Or just fast-forward to the end of the recording and you'll get the same prompt.

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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Congrats, and welcome to TiVo
Press the BACK arrow, Left of SELECT and it will take you to the menus to Delete.
Another shortcut to delete programs from the "My Shows" list is using the Clear button.
What model did your end up getting?
post #1657 of 3301
TiVo Premiere Elite DVR, $299.99 plus $5 shipping
06/12/12 or until sold out

http://www.woot.com/offers/tivo-premiere-elite-dvr
Edited by Bryan_CoxPHX - 6/13/12 at 2:02pm
post #1658 of 3301
So I have a Premiere Elite (4 tuners/2TB HD) in the family room. I am in the process of setting up another TV in the living room. All I want is the ability to watch HD and stream content from the Elite. What is the cheapest option out there besides getting the low end Premiere w/ lifetime??
post #1659 of 3301
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Originally Posted by akalion View Post

So I have a Premiere Elite (4 tuners/2TB HD) in the family room. I am in the process of setting up another TV in the living room. All I want is the ability to watch HD and stream content from the Elite. What is the cheapest option out there besides getting the low end Premiere w/ lifetime??

you wait for the tivo ip box that is coming out in the fall.
post #1660 of 3301
And then dedicate one of your tuners to the STB because Tivo can't figure out how to do tuner sharing in the extender code. *sigh*

They do say this will be a temp issue, but Tivo has never been known for swift software dev.
post #1661 of 3301
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

And then dedicate one of your tuners to the STB because Tivo can't figure out how to do tuner sharing in the extender code. *sigh*

That is only if you want to use it for watching live tv on the extender. If you most use it for watching recordings, it will not be necessary.
post #1662 of 3301
Guess I'll stick with a CableCo box until this comes out. Thanks for the info.
post #1663 of 3301
I tried to sign in to youtube on my premire, and it sent me to the computer with a code. At the computer, it had me sign in to my google account. Then I
the youtube code in, and it wanted permission to make charges to google wallet, even when I'm not using the system, so I cancelled. What's up
with that? Has anyone gone along with it?
post #1664 of 3301
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

That is only if you want to use it for watching live tv on the extender. If you most use it for watching recordings, it will not be necessary.
Yep, and still stupid regardless. People *do* occasionally want to watch live TV, so having to dedicate a tuner to this because Tivo can't figure out what others have done is a waste.
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I am considering ditching my Time Warner DVR and upgrading to a Premiere XL4. The quad tuners and increased storage capabilities are the main attractions. On Demand and Pay-Per-View are not issues for me at all. My main sacrifice will be giving up TWC’s iOS apps; but I am considering getting that functionality back (plus) with a Slingbox PRO-HD.

I have two questions I haven’t been able to find answers to…

- Can I place another chassis on top of the XL4, or do I need to provide ventilation? I don’t see any mention of needing to provide space for convection in any of the manuals I can find online.

- Fios and Time Warner Cable are both available in my home. Does one provider or the other have any advantages unique to being used with Tivo? Of course I will do the usual comparisons between the two services, but I am wondering if a potential Tivo user should consider anything beyond the norm.
post #1666 of 3301
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Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post

I am considering ditching my Time Warner DVR and upgrading to a Premiere XL4. The quad tuners and increased storage capabilities are the main attractions. On Demand and Pay-Per-View are not issues for me at all. My main sacrifice will be giving up TWC’s iOS apps; but I am considering getting that functionality back (plus) with a Slingbox PRO-HD.
I have two questions I haven’t been able to find answers to…
- Can I place another chassis on top of the XL4, or do I need to provide ventilation? I don’t see any mention of needing to provide space for convection in any of the manuals I can find online.
- Fios and Time Warner Cable are both available in my home. Does one provider or the other have any advantages unique to being used with Tivo? Of course I will do the usual comparisons between the two services, but I am wondering if a potential Tivo user should consider anything beyond the norm.
Small comment: TWC is a pioneer in SDV so you would need another box for that. I never heard of comments with FiOS for SDV, only that it may not be around forever (Verizon speculation).

The top of my Premiere is room temperature.

I use neither TWC or FiOS, just a small cable company feed.
post #1667 of 3301
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Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post

- Can I place another chassis on top of the XL4, or do I need to provide ventilation? I don’t see any mention of needing to provide space for convection in any of the manuals I can find online.
The Tivo is basically a Unix computer and does need some ventilation. It probably would be OK to put something in top of it that doesn't generate much heat, as long as it isn't in an enclosed space. The top of my Premiere is also room temperature, so perhaps I'm too cautious. But heat is a slow killer and you need to be careful - losing 2TB of recordings would be painful.
post #1668 of 3301
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Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post

I am considering ditching my Time Warner DVR and upgrading to a Premiere XL4. The quad tuners and increased storage capabilities are the main attractions. On Demand and Pay-Per-View are not issues for me at all. My main sacrifice will be giving up TWC’s iOS apps; but I am considering getting that functionality back (plus) with a Slingbox PRO-HD.
I have two questions I haven’t been able to find answers to…
- Can I place another chassis on top of the XL4, or do I need to provide ventilation? I don’t see any mention of needing to provide space for convection in any of the manuals I can find online.
- Fios and Time Warner Cable are both available in my home. Does one provider or the other have any advantages unique to being used with Tivo? Of course I will do the usual comparisons between the two services, but I am wondering if a potential Tivo user should consider anything beyond the norm.

I understand your concern about ventilation. I tend to go a bit overboard to compensate for heat buildup. I have a shelving unit with ventilated shelves and I went to home depot's plumbing department and bought little 3/4" PVC caps with flat tops. I use them as spacers for any components that are stacked, securing them with small strips of velcro. Like I said, I may have gone overboard but I am a believer that excessive heat is detrimental to electronic components and the small extra expense wasn't a big deal. In the Mitsubishi DLP 738/848 forum I posted photos of how I installed a 240mm usb fan by the vents in the rear of my 60' TV to draw off heat and lowered the internal temperature by 5-8 degrees.

As for ditching cable... I've had Tivo for well over 10 years always upgrading to the best current model (I still have my Tivo series 1,2, HD & basic Premiere in the closet. I'll probably give the Premiere to a poor Tivoless family smile.gif and I've been intending to pull the hard drives on the others and sell them on eBay for 10 or 15 bucks each. When I moved to my present location, Comcast did the install when I was away and my grandson was there. The installer set up a Motorola 3400 cable decoder box with a 500gb tuner (the largest storage available from Comcast), put a cable card into my Tivo, split the signal and so forth. I thought briefly about having Comcast pick up their box, but changed my mind because the units both work perfectly and I can switch between them with the TV remote giving me a total of 6 tuners and 3.5tb of storage (500gb on the cablebox, 2tb on the Tivo and an extra 1tb with the WD DVR Expander). I was told that the Tivo software was limited to 2tb total, but the Expander works for me and DOES increase total capacity to 3tb. I then called Comcast telling them the installer made a mistake and pointed out their expense to send out an installer again, she offered to let me keep the current setup without an extra charge which saved me $10 a month. They already charge me through the nose for enhanced internet (their fastest service at about 30mb/s speed) and cable with the premium channels, so the discount wasn't a big deal. I never intended to have them pull their cablebox, I knew they would negotiate. Over the years, our local cable changed hands 4 times, finally ending with Comcast. Each time I called them to pull their service so I could switch to Dish, knowing that the phone rep's had the authority to offer discounts....and each time, they did...after a bit of haggling.
Edited by wardhealer - 7/17/12 at 5:54am
post #1669 of 3301
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Small comment: TWC is a pioneer in SDV so you would need another box for that. I never heard of comments with FiOS for SDV, only that it may not be around forever (Verizon speculation).
The top of my Premiere is room temperature.
I use neither TWC or FiOS, just a small cable company feed.

You should not have any problem. The XL4 uses less power and puts out less heat than the two tuner Premieres. At one time I had three Premieres stacked on top of one another for several months. There were never any heat issues.

I've been using TiVos since late 2001 and never had any problems with heat on the 30+ TiVos I've used. As with any electronic devices you want some space to give it ventilation. As long as you give it that there are no issues. There is no need to provide extra ventilation for it. It would be more important to make sure you have the TiVo connected to a UPS.
post #1670 of 3301
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

You should not have any problem. The XL4 uses less power and puts out less heat than the two tuner Premieres. At one time I had three Premieres stacked on top of one another for several months. There were never any heat issues.
I've been using TiVos since late 2001 and never had any problems with heat on the 30+ TiVos I've used. As with any electronic devices you want some space to give it ventilation. As long as you give it that there are no issues. There is no need to provide extra ventilation for it. It would be more important to make sure you have the TiVo connected to a UPS.
I think you missed the OP. But I agree 100% with what you said. Everything I use is on a UPS, even the small FM amp for my antenna in the attic. I run the TiVo, TV, three other DVRs, AVR and Blu-ray off one APC 1500VA with battery pack. Computer has its own as does the bedroom small system. It's been a good year with only three outages. But no device has ever failed due to a power problem. Running without a UPS is like driving a car without a spare tire.
post #1671 of 3301
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I think you missed the OP. But I agree 100% with what you said. Everything I use is on a UPS, even the small FM amp for my antenna in the attic. I run the TiVo, TV, three other DVRs, AVR and Blu-ray off one APC 1500VA with battery pack. Computer has its own as does the bedroom small system. It's been a good year with only three outages. But no device has ever failed due to a power problem. Running without a UPS is like driving a car without a spare tire.

I absolutely agree that a UPS is a Must Have for any system. Problem with the Tivo is that it has no on/off switch so when the UPS power runs out it shuts down just as it would have at the moment of the power failure. That is...unless there is some other way to shut down the Tivo that I'm not aware of. If there is, please let me know.
post #1672 of 3301
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Originally Posted by wardhealer View Post

I absolutely agree that a UPS is a Must Have for any system. Problem with the Tivo is that it has no on/off switch so when the UPS power runs out it shuts down just as it would have at the moment of the power failure. That is...unless there is some other way to shut down the Tivo that I'm not aware of. If there is, please let me know.

All we have is pull the plug. Luckily the plug detaches at the rear. This, of course, means you need to be home. If I was going to be gone for an extended period of time I would pull the plug anyhow. My Sony DVRs also run all the time. My power failures are usually one AND six seconds. The supplier does the six second outage to check its lines. My longest at this location was 12 hours. That's when I start using my two 1500W inverters to run the fridge to keep the wine cool. Priorities you know.
post #1673 of 3301
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Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post

- Can I place another chassis on top of the XL4, or do I need to provide ventilation? I don’t see any mention of needing to provide space for convection in any of the manuals I can find online.

I have 2 premieres with one stacked directly on top of the other in an enclosed BDI cabinet (with a vented back). I've never felt them get warmer than room temperature and I check often.
post #1674 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

TiVo Premiere Elite DVR, $299.99 plus $5 shipping
06/12/12 or until sold out
http://www.woot.com/offers/tivo-premiere-elite-dvr
TiVo Premiere Elite DVR, $299.99 plus $5 shipping
Here it is again, Glad I took advantage last time. This is a no brainer.
08/02/12 or until sold out
http://tech.woot.com/offers/tivo-premiere-elite-dvr-3
post #1675 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

TiVo Premiere Elite DVR, $299.99 plus $5 shipping
Here it is again, Glad I took advantage last time. This is a no brainer.
08/02/12 or until sold out
http://tech.woot.com/offers/tivo-premiere-elite-dvr-3

Is this the model which will be compatible with their upcoming extender?
post #1676 of 3301
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post

Is this the model which will be compatible with their upcoming extender?
Questions surrounding the upcoming TiVo IP-STB Extender are mostly speculation at this point. But at launch TiVo has said it will only work with a paired 4-Tuner Elite/XL4 or Q.

I would expect at a later date that the SW would be updated to work with any Premiere 2 or 4 Tuner. If not this IP-STP would have a very limited retail market, not to mention how many pissed off Premiere owners there would be. Hopefully the SW can be written to act as a networked tuner, rather than a static tuner. Even if it can't at least it could be used as a playback device only plus Netflix, Hulu, etc.
http://placeshiftingenthusiasts.com/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/
Edited by Bryan_CoxPHX - 8/3/12 at 2:58am
post #1677 of 3301
Supposedly the live TV tuner allocation is optional with a paired Elite/XL4, so you can use an IP STB simply to stream recorded shows if you want without having to dedicate one of the Elite's tuners to it. Makes me wonder why it wouldn't work with a 2-tuner Premiere out of the box, just don't offer the live TV pairing option.

But this is Tivo, where a lot of stuff doesn't make sense software-wise.
post #1678 of 3301
I am going to post this news here as the Tivo gets its guide data form Tribune. Last month, July 13th 2012, Tribunes bankruptcy was finalized. Tribune is now in the hands of its 3 senior debt holders. Most likely in the future Tribune will be broken up in pieces and sold to repay its debts which includes Tribune Media Services.
Here is a link to the article:
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/60776/tribune-bankruptcyexit-plan-gets-ok

This does not mean that the guide service will stop but probably things will change once a new owner buys it. I suspect Tribunes only guide competitor, Rovi, to be the top bidder for the guide service as they will get the business from Tivo, Direct TV, Windows Media Center, Moxi, and some cable operators. If this happens then Rovi will be the only guide service in the United States.
Again it is only speculation as to what and when things will happen but don't be surprised if changes are announced for the guide in the future.
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As long as the guide data is accurate, I don't care who provides it.
post #1680 of 3301
I think the more strategic issue is if we go down to one guide provider, might we at some point go down to zero? If a service is hugely profitable, providers would be tripping over themselves to get a piece. If there is not enough/no money to be had, the last provider may stop offering the service.
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