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post #1921 of 2514
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

It would be nice if somebody would resolve the FOX v. TiVo clock issues ... I'm already tired of having to remember to add that extra minute.
I have noticed that sometimes Fox is "off" a little and the preview gets cut - but there is nothing TIVo can do about it as the broadcast is what appears to be off. At least I have never lost the end of a show because of it. But then why would we expect a network that just makes up stuff and calls it news to worry about actually broadcasting their shows when they say they will tongue.gif.
post #1922 of 2514
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

It would be nice if somebody would resolve the FOX v. TiVo clock issues ... I'm already tired of having to remember to add that extra minute.

??? I've had no issues with my recordings from Fox. I've had no need to pad any of my Fox recordings.

Although once American Idol starts I will need to. Since it sometimes runs a few minutes over it's allotted time slot. And the show following it will end a few minutes later. But I think this occurs later in the Idol season.
post #1923 of 2514
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

??? I've had no issues with my recordings from Fox. I've had no need to pad any of my Fox recordings.

Fox consistently runs 30 secs or more over ... especially on the 30min Sitcoms. The last "joke" often gets cut along with the previews.

To be fair, it occasionally happens on NBC too ...
post #1924 of 2514
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post


To be fair, it occasionally happens on NBC too ...

. . . and if Fox makes up stuff and reports it as news, I guess NBC, CBS and ABC just ignore the news.
post #1925 of 2514
My Premier XL updated overnight. I haven't had a chance to see what changes were made that are noticeable. I mostly use my Ipad for programming and playback. So I rarely enter the TiVo menu on the tv.
post #1926 of 2514
Hello Everybody,

Well I pulled the pluggs on the DHG'S and joined the Tivo crowd.I bought a Preimere XL with lifetime. Not very thrilled that tivo knows what I record, Makes me feel like big brother is watching. Well at least some shows I like won't get cancelled.It's nice to see people from the DHG thread here.


SS-Stingray
post #1927 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

Not very thrilled that tivo knows what I record, Makes me feel like big brother is watching.

Just to clarify, it's my understanding that TiVo knows what's being watched, but not necessary what you are watching. The recording data TiVo receives (which includes pauses, fast forwards, etc..) isn't tied to an account.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
post #1928 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

Hello Everybody,
Well I pulled the pluggs on the DHG'S and joined the Tivo crowd.I bought a Preimere XL with lifetime. Not very thrilled that tivo knows what I record, Makes me feel like big brother is watching. Well at least some shows I like won't get cancelled.It's nice to see people from the DHG thread here.
SS-Stingray

Ah, our group of expatriots grows again. smile.gif Doesn't bother me if TiVo knows what I watch/record. Do you use loyalty cards at the supermarkets? They know everything about your household consumption, including what your pets eat!!
post #1929 of 2514
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Ah, our group of expatriots grows again. smile.gif Doesn't bother me if TiVo knows what I watch/record. Do you use loyalty cards at the supermarkets? They know everything about your household consumption, including what your pets eat!!

This was reported on Leno last night:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2244116/The-creepy-cable-box-detect-youre-cuddling-sofa-advert-condoms-automatically.html

Gotta love Verizon.
post #1930 of 2514
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Ah, our group of expatriots grows again. smile.gif Doesn't bother me if TiVo knows what I watch/record. Do you use loyalty cards at the supermarkets? They know everything about your household consumption, including what your pets eat!!

You don't even have to use a loyalty card for them to track your purchases! All you have to give them is some piece of identity that is the same on each purchase, and they can tie all your purchases to that number. Do you pay with your credit/debit card? There is a number on them.. Do you pay by check? Remember how they run your check through the machine? They are scanning the account number to verify you don't bounce checks. But once they have that checking account number, they can use it to track your purchases. The only way to stay completely anonymous is to pay cash. Oh and you may want to wear a mask, as they could be using facial recognition on the security cameras.

Greg
post #1931 of 2514
I want them to track my purchases. At Wegmans I can go online and see when and what I purchased. I don't care if they keep track of what I bought. And it can benefit me if they tailor the coupons toward me based on what I've purchased in the past.

Just like I don't mind if TiVo knows every button press I make, every time I FF, everything I watch etc....
post #1932 of 2514
Hi Stigray,

Welcome to the new abode. While it's sad that the sun will soon set on the era of the DHG at least you will have company over here on the Tivo board. I am sure all the Tivo aficionados will be more than happy to support us in our hour of need, but I have a feeling that the Tivo's we have purchased will not be plagued by loss of grid as did the DGH on several occasions in multiple markets.

869 pages and counting on the DHG thread. Amazing really when you consider that there probably are not that many owners, the high count of posts can mainly be attributed to the problems that we all experienced at one time or another. I am hoping that my new Tivo will not be as problematic, especially when I'm paying for the guide on a monthly basis, but at least if it quits working I will have more leverage than with the Sony, I can withhold my payment if it doesn't work as advertised.

Greg.
post #1933 of 2514
Thanks Greg,
Pulling my two DHG'S out of service was like saying goodbuy to an old friend .So far the Tivo has done what expected. I wish it had a power off button to put it into standby.
I keep the dhg's on standby except to program and watch recordings.The tivo season pass is nice so far.I find the tuner is better than my channel master 7000 .I can't use the internet
features of tivo since my dsl is just too slow.I 'm considering replacing the Channel master with a Tivo but was thinking that a series 5 tivo may soon come out.Does anybody know when
a series 5 maybe out? Merry Christmas everybody !!

SS-Stingray
post #1934 of 2514
If they release one it might be out next year. If not 2013 then 2014. Hopefully they will show something new next year. I would really like to see a six tuner retail unit with more processing power and stream capabilitites built in.
post #1935 of 2514
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

Fox consistently runs 30 secs or more over ... especially on the 30min Sitcoms. The last "joke" often gets cut along with the previews.
To be fair, it occasionally happens on NBC too ...

I'm still not seeing this. I record several shows on each major network. Fox, NBC, ABC, and CBS. I'm not padding any of them but I get the beginning of the shows and the previews at the end. But these are all hour long shows and you mention the 30 min sitcoms but imply it's on the hour long shows as well.
post #1936 of 2514
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I'm still not seeing this. I record several shows on each major network. Fox, NBC, ABC, and CBS. I'm not padding any of them but I get the beginning of the shows and the previews at the end. But these are all hour long shows and you mention the 30 min sitcoms but imply it's on the hour long shows as well.

I don't see a pattern either. However stations can get a little "loose" when it comes to start/stop times. Except for a few specials, SNL was never live in California. Sporting events, school closings, and weather events can also skew times. The TiVo has my most accurate clock. My Sony TVGOS box is six seconds slow since the summer. I don't have a PSIP source, so that's not a factor.

A lot depends on the show too. Some start with an episode event, some with a stock story to explain the show and most end in a myriad of ways. There was a time when you could set your clock by the start of a show. But that was back when all shows had a theme song and ended by rolling credits.
post #1937 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

I wish it had a power off button to put it into standby.
I keep the dhg's on standby except to program and watch recordings.

Standby doesn't do anything on the Tivo other than turning off the video output and the power savings are minimal. Tivos are meant to always be on (the drive is never powered down) and since they draw less than 30 watts are not a big consumer.
post #1938 of 2514
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Standby doesn't do anything on the Tivo other than turning off the video output and the power savings are minimal. Tivos are meant to always be on (the drive is never powered down) and since they draw less than 30 watts are not a big consumer.

The DHG never turns off either. Standby stops the output and blanks the front panel display. It defaults to an internal power off at 1am but there is little power savings. On the top of the DHG there is a sticker warning to wait 30 seconds before moving after pulling the plug. The clock does not have a battery backup.

Nice feature of the TiVo is the option to have a blank front panel at all times. I love that.
post #1939 of 2514
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Originally Posted by LimeyGreg View Post

Welcome to the new abode. While it's sad that the sun will soon set on the era of the DHG at least you will have company over here on the Tivo board. I am sure all the Tivo aficionados will be more than happy to support us in our hour of need, but I have a feeling that the Tivo's we have purchased will not be plagued by loss of grid as did the DGH on several occasions in multiple markets.
If your experiences parallel that of most others, you won't be posting much. After you get it set up and get used to the differences from your previous DVR you will simply use it without much fuss because "it just works". You guys coming over from the DHG thread is the most action this thread has seen in a year -- it's usually a quiet neighborhood. smile.gif

Keep in mind the money you pay for the "subscription" covers not just the guide but the continual R&D support efforts that keep firmware updates rolling out and installing automatically.
post #1940 of 2514
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

If your experiences parallel that of most others, you won't be posting much. After you get it set up and get used to the differences from your previous DVR you will simply use it without much fuss because "it just works". You guys coming over from the DHG thread is the most action this thread has seen in a year -- it's usually a quiet neighborhood. smile.gif
Keep in mind the money you pay for the "subscription" covers not just the guide but the continual R&D support efforts that keep firmware updates rolling out and installing automatically.

We tend to be a noisy bunch but we'll try to keep the neighborhood tidy. biggrin.gif

While I'm here I have a question. With the recent update, a new internet app showed up (AOL*on) or at least I never saw it before. I was wondering if anyone has played with it and had your TiVo completely lock up while in that app. I was looking at some movie trailers. The first one worked okay. The next one got "stuck" on the loading screen. After a few minues audio from the TV station the tuner was on started, but the box would not respond to ANY command from the remote. I finally gave up and unplugged. Don't think I'll be trying that app again.
post #1941 of 2514
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

We tend to be a noisy bunch but we'll try to keep the neighborhood tidy. biggrin.gif
While I'm here I have a question. With the recent update, a new internet app showed up (AOL*on) or at least I never saw it before. I was wondering if anyone has played with it and had your TiVo completely lock up while in that app. I was looking at some movie trailers. The first one worked okay. The next one got "stuck" on the loading screen. After a few minues audio from the TV station the tuner was on started, but the box would not respond to ANY command from the remote. I finally gave up and unplugged. Don't think I'll be trying that app again.

I tried one and it worked. I tried another and nothing happened. I finally removed it from the list along with the Hulu+ selection. That's under Settings/Channels/Video providers.
post #1942 of 2514
Standby doesn't do anything on the Tivo other than turning off the video output and the power savings are minimal. Tivos are meant to always be on (the drive is never powered down) and since they draw less than 30 watts are not a big consumer.





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So I was powering down to stop the hard drive since I don't need it all the time.I watch tv through the cm 7000 . If the drives run all the time why have the off function anyway? Since having services like netflix available,can you record those? My DSL service is really slow and it's to slow to watch tv. I think the last speed test was .69

SS-Stingray
post #1943 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

So I was powering down to stop the hard drive since I don't need it all the time.
SS-Stingray
TiVo made the design decision to continually buffer the two (or 4) tuners, so it is always recording hence the drive(s) are always spinning. This has come in quite handy on many occasions, especially since the 30 min buffers are independent. Given that current TiVo's have much larger HDD's it would be nice to have the option of enlarging the buffers to >30 min.

The standby feature is primarily useful for parental control of the TiVo. If you have the TiVo set up to block the adult channels from the kids, putting the unit in standby after the adults are done viewing, resets the parental locks.
post #1944 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

SS-Stingray

Clock is ticking. You might get the $100.
post #1945 of 2514
Better than throwing it in the trash !!! Waiting for your bid Joe ??? If you forget there is the other one listed.

SS-Stingray
post #1946 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

Better than throwing it in the trash !!! Waiting for your bid Joe ??? If you forget there is the other one listed.
SS-Stingray
I might be old but I'm not that old. Ever since I dicovered the offload ability I am saving a lot of movies I never watched. My HD package gives me HDNET - no commercials. I hooked up a WD FreeAgent with 1TB to my Win7 laptop. I already have two DHG units unplugged, but I still use one just to stay in the game. The HDD has over 36k hours on it.

But on the Premiere, has there always been two or three days at the end with no listings? Or is it just me?
post #1947 of 2514
Clock is ticking. You might get the $100.



Well auction is over and the buyer already refuses to pay. Just as i thought. The DHG have hit the trash after all !!!


SS-Stingray
post #1948 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

Clock is ticking. You might get the $100.
Well auction is over and the buyer already refuses to pay. Just as i thought. The DHG have hit the trash after all !!!
SS-Stingray
That sucks. Better luck with the second.
post #1949 of 2514
A premium Spotify (paid sub only) app was just announced that should be rolling out now.
post #1950 of 2514
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Originally Posted by ss-stingray View Post

Clock is ticking. You might get the $100.
Well auction is over and the buyer already refuses to pay. Just as i thought. The DHG have hit the trash after all !!!
SS-Stingray

Why do you say the DHG is dead?

I have three of them working and recording daily.
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