The Official AVS TiVo "Series4" Premiere topic - Page 68

The TiVo Desktop works both ways. I have run it under XP and now use it on a Win7 laptop with a USB WD 1TB drive attached. It's free. So getting and error when I bring it up that I can just skip isn't causing problems. My TiVo is wireless and the laptop is wired.

I have never seen an error on the TiVo. After booting the computer, the TiVo should show "Now Playing on (your computer's name)" on the My Shows. Since I have a small HDD, I just use it to save specials and movies.

The extra money is for mobile devices. A wireless laptop is not considered mobile. You don't need the Desktop running to suck programs back to the TiVo if the server task auto starts.

You have to have the TiVo server running on your PC in the background. TiVo server is part of the TiVo Desktop application. In the configuration screen tell it to start the server automatically when you boot the PC. You should see the TiVo server icon in the system tray. If it is disabled, there will be a red X through it. When the server is running you will see your PC in the TiVo playlist at the bottom.

If you have guide issues here are the two links to get things straightened out.
This one is Tivo:
http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport/contactsupport/lineup_tool.html

And this one is Zap2It, This one is direct to Tribune Media Services:
http://www.zap2it.com/services/site/help/zap-help-contact,0,1784751.htmlstory

If anybody has listings or lineup issues just fill out the form and Tribune usually takes care of it in one day. If your Tivos lineup is incorrect or the channels are missing please contact them as nobody is going to do it, especially if you have cable, as they don't not report channel changes anymore as they have their own guides.

I know TiVo says it doesn't support Satellite inputs, but in a way, it does. I have a very limited subscription to DirecTV and I plugged my OTA antenna and the cable from the DTV box into a splitter and the splitter into the TiVo. The DTV receiver plays on channel 3 and although I don't get any guide data for that channel I do get the DTV feed (I just change DTV channels on the DTV receiver.)

My problem is that the DTV picture is very snowy. (The OTA is perfect HD) DTV is watchable for news programs but on the rare occasion I want to watch something where the picture matters, it's very hard to enjoy it. Has anyone else out there tried anything like this and have a better solution?

Thanks

My Premiere is misbehaving since I upgraded my AVR from an Onkyo TX-NR607 to a TX-NR616. I'm occasionally getting "HDMI connection not permitted" which forces me to replug the HDMI connection. I've tried turning HDMI standby pass-thru off on the AVR to no avail. This never happened before. I don't see a reference to this problem here, sorry if this is a FAQ. Any suggestions?


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I get it sometimes too. I wait a few seconds and it goes away. My AVR has CEC disabled and pass through enabled. Since it always goes away, and happens when I switch inputs, I ignore it. CEC sucks.

I've also noticed an increase in the amount of time Tivo's guide is showing R when it's actually new. As others have pointed out the OAD(original air date) shows the program as todays date so I guess if I were recording these shows as a Season Pass event, things would be fine. The problem is with shows like Fallon, Kimmel, Craig, and Leno I don't use a Season Pass or even a Wishlist search but rather manually look at the guide page to decide if I want to record them. I immediately look over the ones listed as R but what caught my attention was programs this year were showing up as R but had a year date of 2013(the year shows up in the guide screen but not OAD). Since we are only a few days into the new year I knew it couldn't already be a R with a date of 2013. This got me into looking at the OAD which indeed showed todays date even though the previous screen showed a R
So I guess until this gets straightened out I can't just rely on the R but must do the hassle of going into the info screen to see the OAD. The way I look at the guide this is NOT very convenient. Currently while watching something like the news I bring up the guide and manually move through the guide for each night, to see the OAD I need to push REC followed by INFO which takes me out of the news I might be watching in the background of my guide! To make matters worse, if I'm time delay watching the news when I get back from the INFO screen it automatically takes me back to the current time or live TV.

It's hard to know where to ask for help. Is it a TiVo or Tribune issue? As for news, good luck with that. If I wanted to record prime time on msnbc it would be a waste since if a program is new, it's new all day including repeats on that day. Same with the Daily Show since the OAD seems to be ignored for a Season Pass.

Like you said: Trust but Verify.

Thanks. My AVR can't have passthru on without also enabling CEC. And my issue doesn't go away till I replug HDMI. What I'm trying now is to have my remote control send a "Standby" signal to the TiVo when I turn everything off. Maybe this causes HDCP to reinitialize each time I activate the system. Maybe not. If it's not resolved in the next couple of weeks I'll return my Onkyo for another AVR brand.

I spoke to Onkyo support today and the guy had no suggestions, other than switching to component or taking HDMI from TiVo directly to my TV and using ARC to get the audio back to the AVR. No thanks.

Then record by time and date, don't use the season pass feature.

Sorry I couldn't help more. I have a mix of old non-CEC stuff and newer stuff. Even with CEC disabled, when I turn off the AVR my TV goes blank. Turn off the TV and the TiVo audio goes silent for a few seconds. AVR is Yamaha RX-V867, TV is Sony 32EX700. All cables are from Monoprice.com with single ferrite core. Everything is HDMI except TV audio output (no ARC).

What good is having fun toys if I can't play with them?

I think you misunderstood what I was getting at with the news comment. I don't actually record the news but like to have it in the background when I page through the guide. I listen to it and am able to catch a little behind the guide screen but if I'm forced to look for OAD I lose the live TV feature since I have to go to into the "Season Pass & other options" screen which loses live TV
I agree with your last statement and have learned I can't totally trust the R but need to verify if I have any doubts

With that setup you're watching analog SD from the DirecTV box, of course, so it's never going to look like HD. But if you mean the picture is actually snowy (noisy), then try connecting only the DirecTV output directly to the TiVo's antenna input (as a test) to see if that helps. If it does, the signal getting through your splitter (combiner) may just be too weak for some reason. I'm assuming you have the TiVo's input connected to what would normally be the spitter's input.

Now I'm confused. When viewing the guide I see a full description, include OAD, of the highlighted show. Live TV moves to a small box. This is a poor picture:

It also shows the two yellow new boxes for the show and its repeat.

Wow, thats sure nicer than the guide screen I see on my TIvo HD
My guide just overlays whatever is playing on the screen and it's missing the little picture you have in the upper right corner(although I am familiar with that arrangement as my Sony HDTV w/TVGOS is similar, only on the upper left).
My Tivo HD guide also lacks the OAD(or as your guide calls it, first aired) for me to access OAD I have to go though several button pushes of which loses programming from my screen
Lastly my guide also lacks the yellow NEW icon within the guide although my TVGOS uses the term new it's not within the guide but rather on top within the program description. AFAIK my Tivo never uses the term new, only R for a repeat.
IMO your guide looks more like TVGOS than my older Tivo guide, I wonder if the even older Series 3 looked different than my HD? If only Tivo made a 4 (OTA) tuner I'd be on a Premier in a heart beat, especially after looking at your guide.
Sorry for the confusion, other than being in HD I didn't realize how different the Premier guide looked compared to my Tivo HD.
Edited by jjeff - 1/3/13 at 3:39pm

Using TVGOS for the last 4 years on my DHG (V8) and 2 years on my TV (V10), I can understand the differences. Most, but not all, of the Premiere is now in HD. When it goes into Settings it still switches into SD. I'm glad the mystery is cleared up. And First Aired is probably only as accurate as the data that feeds the Tribune database.

You're right about the setup and the snow. The signal coming through the splitter is just too weak. But if I hook the DTV box directly into the TiVo its fine (at least as fine as SD can be.) I tried a different splitter with the same result. The snow is a very uniform pattern if that tells you anything.

Any ideas of another way to hook this up? I tried connecting the DTV box to the cable input to the TiVo but don't know how to tune to it. I'm guessing it won't work without a cable card.

The program is configured so that the server starts automatically upon log-in. Under "Services"/Tivo Server Properties, the config tab says that the server is running. Network tab is set to Bonjour. Access tab is automatic.

I've "published" Music, Photos and Videos, but when I view that "now playing" list, only the movies show up. That's on the Tivo desktop software. On the Tivo itself, there's still no link to my computer.

Joe, thanks for the response, but I didn't understand a thing you said... :-(

OAD is never ignored. The problem is channels like CC often don't include the OAD so TiVo plays it safe and records it as if it were new.

Let's just focus on the video. Do you have content in the TiVo folder?
Use TiVo desktop to transfer a recording on the TiVo to your PC then check the TiVo playlist to see if it is there.

In the "Server Properties" window, the Access Control tab --- do you have "full" or "automatic" selected?

I had to purchase the $20 upgrade for TiVo Desktop before I could push video to my TiVo.

TiVo doesn't support all formats of video, so another issue may be the encoder used on your video.

Automatic... But that's now a mute point. Today for some reason, it's right where it's supposed to be. And, yes. The computer was turned on and the desktop software running last time I looked. Transferred the videos I wanted, but only at about 10 to 12 MPS.

See, I knew you guys could solve the problem.

Now, what about music and photos?

Did you hear about that free software called Streambaby? http://code.google.com/p/streambaby/
Somebody posted it earlier in this forum and it looked pretty promising. I still may try it since it's supposed to be able to get around video compatibility issues.

 

Yeah, that's pretty sharp alright, compared to the HD. 

 

Too bad I wasn't over 40 miles out, with some trees in my path, or I'd upgrade my HD to a Premiere. I don't always get all of my channels solidly as it is, though. 

Edited by Rammitinski - 1/4/13 at 5:40pm

If you don't have cable, then yes, you should be able to connect the output of the DirecTV to the cable input on the TiVo. You're only trying to feed in one analog channel, and the frequency assignment for cable channel 3 is the same as for OTA channel 3, so it should work (without guide data, of course). You shouldn't need a cable card for analog, but for the TiVo to even try to tune a channel from that input, you'll probably have to rerun Guided Setup and tell the TiVo you have cable. Connect the DirecTV before you do that. If you have different cable plans available, just pick one, since you won't actually receive any of those channels anyway. When the TiVo gets done detecting channels, it should have found your antenna channels and analog channel 3 on the cable. It may actually show you guide data for channel 3, but that has nothing to do with your channel 3 feed. You'll have to schedule recordings from the DirecTV manually.

I just hooked up my Onkyo 9400 HTIB last night and the receiver has the same features as yours. You can enable HDMI passthrough with out using CEC controls. I have my Pace RNG 200 hooked into the cable/sat HDMI input of the onkyo then the onkyo to my kuro. In your set up menu, select paasthrough for the HDMI output in the HDMI input/output menu. Then in the hardware section go to the HDMI through and set it for cable/sat. Thats how I have mine set up and I have no CEC controls enabled on any of my devices.
If this is set properly you should be able to turn your AVR off and the video and audio will pass through to the tv and you just use the tv speakers for sound. Another thing is you might want to try is set the Tivo to output a native signal as this will cause the Tivo to negotiate a new handshake when you change to a channel with a different resolution. I do not have a Tivo yet so I do not know if you can do this.
You should not have to put the Tivo in standby mode as DVRs always are on.

My Onkyo does not have a pass through feature. I have my TiVo connected directly to my TV via HDMI and I send the optical out of the TiVo to the Onkyo. My Harmony remote is set up so I can play the TiVo through the TV and have the option to mute the TV speakers and play the sound through the AVR.

I found a 1hr 1080i/DD5.1 TV show needed about 20 minutes to transfer. A lot depends on the real bit rate.

Music & Photo. Interesting. I see the locations with "032" after the "/" indicating somebody made a coding error. The "032" would be an ASCII space. Anyhow, it is supposed to play mp3 files but I haven't made that work yet. My WMC music isn't saved that way. More playing to do. There is doc & help on the TiVo web site.

Edit: .mp3 music files work. Hard part is finding the location to store them. More work needed.
Edited by JoeKustra - 1/5/13 at 6:22am

It worked like a charm. It also added a bunch of other channels I don't get but I unchecked them on the channel list. I wish there was a way to completely make them go away so they didn't show up when I select 'all channels' I think sometimes having the extra channels can mess up season pass recordings when it tries to record them on a 'dead' channel.

Thanks for the help!