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post #2041 of 3305
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

You don't have to do a power cycle (and that's not going to fix guide listings anyway). Go to Settings->Network->Connect now to get an update, if there is one. More likely you just have to wait until the next day. If it doesn't get corrected just schedule a manual recording for the time slot, it's not a big deal.
I show Lifeguard! at 9 and 9:30pm tomorrow night for TWC on my Tivo using Comcast in the ATL, btw.
I hate a mystery. If I go to the TiVo web site and it's correct but my listings are wrong, is it a cable problem? I know all cable is local, and I can't change my zipcode. I've been waiting over a week. Seems the Tribune database doesn't like TWC when it comes to a TiVo.
post #2042 of 3305
Your CableCo has nothing to do with it. The Listings data comes over the internet. Do what slowbiscuit said and force the update. If your listings are still wrong, then TiVo has the wrong information for your zipcode . . .
post #2043 of 3305
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

Your CableCo has nothing to do with it. The Listings data comes over the internet. Do what slowbiscuit said and force the update. If your listings are still wrong, then TiVo has the wrong information for your zipcode . . .
Forced update fixed it. Previous update was yesterday.
post #2044 of 3305
Seems quiet around here.

If a green dot is KUID and a yellow dot is "delete to make room", what does a blue dot indicate? I checked and couldn't find it in my manual.
post #2045 of 3305
Green = Keep until I delete
Blue = Keep until Space needed
Solid Yellow = May be deleted soon (~3 days, if space is needed)
Yellow (!) = May be deleted sooner (~24 hours, if space is needed)
post #2046 of 3305
Okay, time for a newbie question. . .

If I get part way done watching a show and decide to delete it, how do I do that? I hold down the skip ahead button for a couple of seconds and it skips almost to the end but I can't get it to show the delete or save screen. I have to mess with it for what seems to be forever. This happens especially when I've recorded a show past its scheduled end time. Is there an easy way to just delete it or skip to the end so that it asks me?

Thanks
post #2047 of 3305
^^
This from memory (bad memory)... Press the "left" button (not rewind) and it allows the option to "delete".
post #2048 of 3305
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

^^
This from memory (bad memory)... Press the "left" button (not rewind) and it allows the option to "delete".

Awesome. I knew there had to be an easy way, I just couldn't find it. Thanks very much!!!
post #2049 of 3305
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Originally Posted by bschift View Post

Awesome. I knew there had to be an easy way, I just couldn't find it. Thanks very much!!!

Or, instead of holding down the skip button to go to the end and then hitting the left arrow and then hitting the up arrow and then hitting select, you can simply hit the left arrow and press the clear button. Simpler?
post #2050 of 3305
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

Or, instead of holding down the skip button to go to the end and then hitting the left arrow and then hitting the up arrow and then hitting select, you can simply hit the left arrow and press the clear button. Simpler?

That's what WS65711 said....
post #2051 of 3305
I think you can also just hit the "TIVO" button when anything is playing and it should bring the option up.
post #2052 of 3305
I'm going to ask it here since it pertains to Tivo in general

I just picked up a Series 3 because I am using it with a OTA antenna and the tuner in a Premiere sucks for OTA. So I got it all hooked up and working fine but setting timers (to me at least) is a pain in the arse to set

I've had both Directv and Dish too and there is an option to set record defaults so every recording you do (one time or series) will default to that unless you change it. So as example on Directv if I am in the guide and hit the record button it will record that show and start 1 min early end 1 min late. I do not see that option on the Tivo (neither the Premiere or the Series 3/HD) I can find that. Sure if I did a series I probably can but those one time recordings are really a pain changing
keep until
start time
end time

every time.

I read the manual and can't find anything. SO is there a way to do that or is that only "reserved" for Series timers?

Oh by the way....yeah the OTA tuner kicks major arse compared to the Premiere. Showing 96+ on all stations whereas the Premiere would show 60's and had dropouts. Using a big outdoor antenna
post #2053 of 3305
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Originally Posted by unclehonkey View Post

I'm going to ask it here since it pertains to Tivo in general
I have used a TiVo HD for 4 years, strictly OTA receiving stations out of Philly.
In all that time I have never routinely padded a recording with extra minutes of start or stop time that was scheduled using the guide -- I've never missed the beginning or end of a show as a result. This is to say that in my experience the guide has been very accurate and the TiVo clock is always spot on. The guide routinely shows accurate run times for shows that start or end a couple minutes after the hour.

The only exceptions for routine back-end padding are live sporting events like football and baseball that can unpredictably run over their time slots. In those cases the TiVo recognizes it is a live event and asks if I want to pad the stop time by an hour (or more) when it is scheduled. The only other time I have needed back-end padding is directly due to the Sunday CBS football games that routinely over run their time slot and push the CBS prime-time shows back by 1/2 an hour or more. The guide data can't possibly predict that, otherwise during the week it is very accurate.
post #2054 of 3305
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Originally Posted by unclehonkey View Post

I'm going to ask it here since it pertains to Tivo in general

I just picked up a Series 3 because I am using it with a OTA antenna and the tuner in a Premiere sucks for OTA. So I got it all hooked up and working fine but setting timers (to me at least) is a pain in the arse to set

I've had both Directv and Dish too and there is an option to set record defaults so every recording you do (one time or series) will default to that unless you change it. So as example on Directv if I am in the guide and hit the record button it will record that show and start 1 min early end 1 min late. I do not see that option on the Tivo (neither the Premiere or the Series 3/HD) I can find that. Sure if I did a series I probably can but those one time recordings are really a pain changing
keep until
start time
end time

every time.

I read the manual and can't find anything. SO is there a way to do that or is that only "reserved" for Series timers?

Oh by the way....yeah the OTA tuner kicks major arse compared to the Premiere. Showing 96+ on all stations whereas the Premiere would show 60's and had dropouts. Using a big outdoor antenna
Padding all shows automatically would cause other problems.
If you are recording consecutive shows on one channel and pad one or the other, you end up using up both tuners for that one channel, causing conflicts with any other recording in the same time frame.
post #2055 of 3305
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I have used a TiVo HD for 4 years, strictly OTA receiving stations out of Philly.
In all that time I have never routinely padded a recording with extra minutes of start or stop time that was scheduled using the guide -- I've never missed the beginning or end of a show as a result. This is to say that in my experience the guide has been very accurate and the TiVo clock is always spot on. The guide routinely shows accurate run times for shows that start or end a couple minutes after the hour.

Well since you're OTA you couldn't record Sons of Anarchy and Justified on Comcast then, because both of the season premieres on FX this year got cut off at the end because they should have been 1:04 and showed as 1:00 in the Tivo guide. Subsequent eps after the first have been fine.

This does happen on rare occasions, in other words (usually on non-OTA channels) - the Tivo guide can be wrong for whatever reason. Having said that, I never pad a show in an SP or WL until I see a problem.
post #2056 of 3305
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Well since you're OTA you couldn't record Sons of Anarchy and Justified on Comcast then, because both of the season premieres on FX this year got cut off at the end because they should have been 1:04 and showed as 1:00 in the Tivo guide. Subsequent eps after the first have been fine.

This does happen on rare occasions, in other words (usually on non-OTA channels) - the Tivo guide can be wrong for whatever reason. Having said that, I never pad a show in an SP or WL until I see a problem.
I agree. Luckily a lot of cable shows, like Justified, are shown multiple times. Sometimes a repeat isn't missing content only commercials. It's not just a cable issue since I have seen broadcast do a similar thing. As for the guide, I figure they do their best. The Tribune and Rovi databases are their most valuable asset.
post #2057 of 3305
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Well since you're OTA you couldn't record Sons of Anarchy and Justified on Comcast then, because both of the season premieres on FX this year got cut off at the end because they should have been 1:04 and showed as 1:00 in the Tivo guide. Subsequent eps after the first have been fine.
I can see where that would be a pain for cable shows and make you think about having to pad on a routine basis. Since I am OTA I have no knowledge of the guide accuracy for cable. But as I responded to unclehonkey, who is also OTA, the OTA portion of the guide has been very accurate in my experience.
post #2058 of 3305
The only show that I regularly(basically always) miss the last few seconds is Parks and Rec on NBC mad.gif and of course they run the program to the very very end which means I miss the last joke. I can't pad the recording because the tuners will both be in use right after P&R(and on different channels) so I just live with it. Note I don't consider this a Tivo issue, more of a NBC issue, I'm OTA too.
The only time I use padding is with Sunday night programming on CBS where football regularly runs 30 to 45 minutes late rolleyes.gif
Unclehockey, living just south of the river I also receive all the locals 98%+ on my Tivo HD, too bad about the Premiere, I'd like the 4 tuner model but for what ever reason Tivo has chosen to ignore us frown.gif
post #2059 of 3305
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Originally Posted by JohnMc View Post

Padding all shows automatically would cause other problems.
If you are recording consecutive shows on one channel and pad one or the other, you end up using up both tuners for that one channel, causing conflicts with any other recording in the same time frame.
I found that out last night...I figured it would use one tuner since it was same channel but alas it doesn't
post #2060 of 3305
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I have used a TiVo HD for 4 years, strictly OTA receiving stations out of Philly.
In all that time I have never routinely padded a recording with extra minutes of start or stop time that was scheduled using the guide -- I've never missed the beginning or end of a show as a result. This is to say that in my experience the guide has been very accurate and the TiVo clock is always spot on. The guide routinely shows accurate run times for shows that start or end a couple minutes after the hour.
Thanks for the info. Maybe tonight I'll try that one a couple series (start and end at the actual time)

One of my timers I have to set to start early and thats because they start the show early (TMZ...yeah I know)....they always start around 6:28:40 to 6:28:50 so if I have it start at 6:29 its already going
post #2061 of 3305
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Unclehockey, living just south of the river I also receive all the locals 98%+ on my Tivo HD, too bad about the Premiere, I'd like the 4 tuner model but for what ever reason Tivo has chosen to ignore us frown.gif
yup I'm just south of the river (down by Mistake Lake)....I got a Premiere (bundle deal thorugh Tivo) and used it less than 12 hours. Every station cut out constantly and I'm using an outdoor antenna. Returned it and to Tivo's credit they were understanding about why I returned it and they got ti back and refunded all my money (sans shipping) within 2 days

Got the Series 3 yesterday and have just been "playing" with it setting timers of shows that I sometimes watch just to see what it can do and what it can't.
I do like the fact on the front panel it shows the program that is being recorded (no need to turn TV on if you forget what program you're recording)

Series 3 tuner is way stronger and havent had any dropouts. Lowest showing signal (other than the low powered religious) is 29 which shows around 89/90
post #2062 of 3305
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I have used a TiVo HD for 4 years, strictly OTA receiving stations out of Philly.
In all that time I have never routinely padded a recording with extra minutes of start or stop time that was scheduled using the guide -- I've never missed the beginning or end of a show as a result. This is to say that in my experience the guide has been very accurate and the TiVo clock is always spot on. The guide routinely shows accurate run times for shows that start or end a couple minutes after the hour.

Conversely, I've *never* had a 30 minute FOX comedy *not* get chopped by a few seconds at the end ... This occasionally happens on other stations as well, but you can always count on FOX wink.gif

It is interesting that they (FOX) always seem to end on time leading into the 10pm news hour ... so ... draw your own conclusion. smile.gif

However you slice it, the D* DVR's are much better at handling the situation. In fact, I don't recall this being a significant issue on my now retired HR10-250 (using OTA source.)
post #2063 of 3305
I hear you talking about padding and I routinely have to pad Pawn Stars to hear the last joke. But what I was wondering, unlike the Sony DHG, the Premier that I have does NOT seem to have the capability of starting a recording early. Both start and end times can go later. But NEITHER can be set to earlier. At least not that I've found.
post #2064 of 3305
When I had my premiere operating (for 12 hours before I sent it back because the tuner sucked) I could set it to start early. Never did get to try it though wink.gif
post #2065 of 3305
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Originally Posted by linkstur View Post

I hear you talking about padding and I routinely have to pad Pawn Stars to hear the last joke. But what I was wondering, unlike the Sony DHG, the Premier that I have does NOT seem to have the capability of starting a recording early. Both start and end times can go later. But NEITHER can be set to earlier. At least not that I've found.

Since you are used to how the Sony's padding works, you should look at the Premier's method of doing it again (I was initally confused by this also). The Sony allowed you to start recordings early or late, and end recordings early or late. On the Sony you moved left for earlier and right for later. The Premier only lets you start early and end late. In both cases you move the setting to the right. You cannot start late, or end early with these settings on the Premier.

Mark
post #2066 of 3305
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Originally Posted by unclehonkey View Post

[...]
Oh by the way....yeah the OTA tuner kicks major arse compared to the Premiere. Showing 96+ on all stations whereas the Premiere would show 60's and had dropouts. Using a big outdoor antenna

I bought a TiVo Premier over the holidays, and also had tuner issues (the same symptoms as you describe). I exchanged it for a different one, and it also had the tuner problems. The problem is that these tuners are easily overdriven (even with my unamplified attic antenna). I added a variable attenuator to the setup, and my bouncing signals in 60s jumped into the 90s, and were then stable. Unfortunately since I had to attenuate the signal, my weakest stations (that I never watch) could no longer be tuned. I haven't had any more problems with reception since.

Mark
post #2067 of 3305
^^^interesting that even a non amplified setup was strong enough to cause issues, sounds like a bad design to me. I should try your theory on my TIvo HD. Like I said in a previous post I get 98%+ on most all my stations and 99.9% of the time everythings fine but occasionally I get a bit of brief pixelazation on 1 channel(my favorite that I make the majority of my recordings, CBS). I've never been able to catch it live(I almost exclusively time shift programs) so by the time I see it the issue has been long gone. I guess I could try a simple attenuator, maybe 5db or so and see what happens. All the stations I watch are strong so I doubt I will have issues with weak stations. I'll give it a try, thanks for the tip smile.gif
post #2068 of 3305
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

^^^interesting that even a non amplified setup was strong enough to cause issues, sounds like a bad design to me. I should try your theory on my TIvo HD. Like I said in a previous post I get 98%+ on most all my stations and 99.9% of the time everythings fine but occasionally I get a bit of brief pixelazation on 1 channel(my favorite that I make the majority of my recordings, CBS). I've never been able to catch it live(I almost exclusively time shift programs) so by the time I see it the issue has been long gone. I guess I could try a simple attenuator, maybe 5db or so and see what happens. All the stations I watch are strong so I doubt I will have issues with weak stations. I'll give it a try, thanks for the tip smile.gif

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=1296f&d=antennas-direct-20db-variable-attenuator-for-vhf-uhf-hd-off-air-reception-1296f&sku=853748001293

Works for me.
post #2069 of 3305

At 8 AM Wednesday - I had the Opposite Happen - the Comcast Signal
dropped enough to cause a problem. I had to take out my attenuator
to get the signal back.
post #2070 of 3305
I've got a 30db Pre-amp in my setup that is split three ways. My two tuner S4 box pulls in the same channels as my S3 boxes did. But I think the signal meters are different. My S4 boxes can be down to 30 on the meter and still have rock solid reception, while I think my S3 boxes showed a higher level on the signal strength meter when it would start having reception issues. Although it has been awhile since I messed around with S3 boxes.
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