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post #2221 of 2564
2/10/13 at 9:50am
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Life with TiVo

Windows 8: Yes I am still trying to set up email. Ok you “have” to set up a Microsoft email account in order to use their email client shell, this so they can spy on you. But for two days now their Hotmail service has been – “not working” soooooooooooooo no new email accounts. $$##xxbeanbag

Not an expert, but when trying to set up the embedded e-mail in W8, it turns out that it is not compatable with POP3 e-mail...which happens to be the most common type of mail...ie...if you have a Verizon or Comcast account. Outlook was not a problem, but I wouldn't hold much hope for W8 resident e-mail client.
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post #2222 of 2564
2/10/13 at 10:15am
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Not an expert, but when trying to set up the embedded e-mail in W8, it turns out that it is not compatable with POP3 e-mail...which happens to be the most common type of mail...ie...if you have a Verizon or Comcast account. Outlook was not a problem, but I wouldn't hold much hope for W8 resident e-mail client.

Yep just discovered that, the POP3 either does not work or very lame. The att.net buried in the yahoo.com and Microsoft's stupid Win 8 host master cloud Hotmail control is monster poop. Already worked on it enough today. Tomorrow I will try the Outlook Win 8, which I guess also now in the clouds. Outlook may now be just a fat Hotmail, both cloud based. I don't know?

My wife has informed I am foaming at the mouth and it is time for my rabies shot again. Sorry guys, I know way off topic. Its just that you spend big bucks for computer and the email cloud client is junk.

Back to TiVo, got about 40 hours to watch already LOL
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post #2223 of 2564
2/10/13 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

Yep just discovered that, the POP3 either does not work or very lame. The att.net buried in the yahoo.com and Microsoft's stupid Win 8 host master cloud Hotmail control is monster poop. Already worked on it enough today. Tomorrow I will try the Outlook Win 8, which I guess also now in the clouds. Outlook may now be just a fat Hotmail, both cloud based. I don't know?

My wife has informed I am foaming at the mouth and it is time for my rabies shot again. Sorry guys, I know way off topic. Its just that you spend big bucks for computer and the email cloud client is junk.

Back to TiVo, got about 40 hours to watch already LOL
If you actually have a POP3 email account why are you trying to mess with Microsoft's email program? Just download a good email client like Thunderbird and be done with it.
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post #2224 of 2564
2/10/13 at 4:35pm
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Yep just discovered that, the POP3 either does not work or very lame. The att.net buried in the yahoo.com and Microsoft's stupid Win 8 host master cloud Hotmail control is monster poop. Already worked on it enough today. Tomorrow I will try the Outlook Win 8, which I guess also now in the clouds. Outlook may now be just a fat Hotmail, both cloud based. I don't know?

My wife has informed I am foaming at the mouth and it is time for my rabies shot again. Sorry guys, I know way off topic. Its just that you spend big bucks for computer and the email cloud client is junk.

Back to TiVo, got about 40 hours to watch already LOL

If you were accustomed to using outlook express email you could download and try windows live mail it is a free add on from Microsoft. It is part of Windows Essentials. I think you can use it with Windows 8.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/essentials-other-programs
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post #2225 of 2564
2/10/13 at 8:01pm
Just use Outlook. I use Outlook with Windows 8 and I have at least sixty POP3 accounts I access through Outlook. They work without any issues.
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post #2226 of 2564
2/11/13 at 4:24am
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

I did have to watch the stupid TiVo cartoon again while it was rebooting.
Press the Tivo button when you see the cartoon start and you can go right into My Shows, no need to watch it.
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post #2227 of 2564
2/11/13 at 9:34am
Thanks guys for all the good postings on the email

Currently the email in the Win 8 is now working I think? Currently have Win 7 and vista computers emailing to the new Win 8 computer (back and forth).

If it fails in the next day or two, I will be switching to the Win 8 Outlook OR the thunderbird. I have to go slow………..I always break 5 things to get one thing fixed.

Overall the Outlook might just be the most stable route to go, time will tell.


Thanks for the TiVo button to kill the cartoon!
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post #2228 of 2564
2/11/13 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

Thanks guys for all the good postings on the email

Currently the email in the Win 8 is now working I think? Currently have Win 7 and vista computers emailing to the new Win 8 computer (back and forth).

If it fails in the next day or two, I will be switching to the Win 8 Outlook OR the thunderbird. I have to go slow………..I always break 5 things to get one thing fixed.

Overall the Outlook might just be the most stable route to go, time will tell.

Thanks for the TiVo button to kill the cartoon!
An email program is like buying a new DVR. I use Outlook 2010 with two POP3 accounts from my two ISP accounts. I highly recommend a gmail account. I found it best to handle spam and it forwards easily. There are other "free" email clients, so look around. I don't know how many became dead with Win8. Almost everything I do on the internet sends to gmail. I can access it on any platform even though it complains about my IE8 access. When MS decides to support IE9 on XP I will switch. Good luck.
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post #2229 of 2564
2/11/13 at 4:36pm
Ok, back to the TiVo questions:

1. I am watching a recorded show and decide I do not want it. What is the fastest way to delete it? I have a feeling; I have to hit way too many buttons to delete the program. For example on the Sony you just hit "stop" and all the appropriate questions popped up; one of them being "delete".

2. My wife has the hots for Justin Timberlake and wants to watch him on the Grammy’s over and over. Is there a bookmark for instant access?

3. TiVo suggestions (the extra recordings it makes), is there a way to “tone it down” so it is not recording dozens of bad shows? Can it be completly turned “off”?
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post #2230 of 2564
2/11/13 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

Ok, back to the TiVo questions:

1. I am watching a recorded show and decide I do not want it. What is the fastest way to delete it? I have a feeling; I have to hit way too many buttons to delete the program. For example on the Sony you just hit "stop" and all the appropriate questions popped up; one of them being "delete".

2. My wife has the hots for Justin Timberlake and wants to watch him on the Grammy’s over and over. Is there a bookmark for instant access?

3. TiVo suggestions (the extra recordings it makes), is there a way to “tone it down” so it is not recording dozens of bad shows? Can it be completly turned “off”?
3. Tone down: hit thumbs down when you see a thumbs up. Kill: Settings, Recording, TiVo Suggestions, select NO.
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post #2231 of 2564
2/11/13 at 4:45pm
1. Just push the back arrow and then the clear key. Two keystrokes.
2. No bookmarks but Tivo will resume where you last left off so just leave it at the beginning of his part and thats where it will resume.
3. Joe answered for you
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post #2232 of 2564
2/12/13 at 10:08am
Thread rolled back to the most recent on-topic post.

It's a TiVo thread, guys. Not a Windows thread. Stay on topic.
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post #2233 of 2564
2/12/13 at 11:40am
Next TiVo question:

How do you just "stop" watching a recording, without a "stop" button? That is to stop and exit, not just "pause".
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post #2234 of 2564
2/12/13 at 11:44am
Either use the "Live TV" button or the Left button on the ring....
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post #2235 of 2564
2/13/13 at 4:39am
My TiVo has been infected. There's now an option for Web Video Lauchpad. Any way to hide it?
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post #2236 of 2564
2/13/13 at 4:53am
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

My TiVo has been infected. There's now an option for Web Video Lauchpad. Any way to hide it?

No way to hide it that I can see, It is not in the Video Providers list.

Give Flingo a try, it's pretty cool.
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post #2237 of 2564
2/13/13 at 5:01am
FWIW

I killed the TiVo “Remote Interface” to iPad. The link was causing problems with our Network. Too many open ports. Win 8, Network, and TiVo do not get along well together. Just too many problems with Security.
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post #2238 of 2564
2/16/13 at 1:05pm
This must be a small user base, but if you are using the Desktop program to transfer shows to your PC, it stopped working on Friday. If you really want to offload that show, set your computer's date to 2/13 and repeat the transfer. A "Valentines Day" bug?
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post #2239 of 2564
2/16/13 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

This must be a small user base, but if you are using the Desktop program to transfer shows to your PC, it stopped working on Friday. If you really want to offload that show, set your computer's date to 2/13 and repeat the transfer. A "Valentines Day" bug?

It doesn't work at all past that date? I'llneed to turn on my TiVo Desktop PC and check it out.

EDIT: I just checked my TiVo Desktop machine. It is having issues transferring into the TiVo Desktop machine but can still transfer out to the TiVos.

AT the TiVo Community forum they say that the problem is that expired cookies are being sent out which is causing the problem. I still need to read more about it to see if there is a solution other than rolling back the date.
Edited by aaronwt - 2/16/13 at 3:58pm
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post #2240 of 2564
2/16/13 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

It doesn't work at all past that date? I'll need to turn on my TiVo Desktop PC and check it out.
The problem is that the Tivo is sending an expired cookie, so the web browser won't send it back.

To be specific:

Server: tivo-httpd-1:11.0k-01-2:652
Set-Cookie: sid=; path=/; expires="Saturday, 16-Feb-2013 00:00:00 GMT";

It seems to send that expiry date no matter what.

That's from the TiVo web site. Looks like it stopped yesterday. It affects all series (except 1). At least there is a work around. I wonder how long that code has been waiting to activate.

It does bother me that TiVo support wanted a screen shot of the error.

http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/forums/displaythread?rootPostID=11070121&channelID=10&portalPageId=10432560
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post #2241 of 2564
2/16/13 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

This must be a small user base, but if you are using the Desktop program to transfer shows to your PC, it stopped working on Friday. If you really want to offload that show, set your computer's date to 2/13 and repeat the transfer. A "Valentines Day" bug?
Thank you Joe.

I thought I was going nuts and wondering what I did to the system. I just spent a couple hours trying to track it down on my PC's. I just logged in here to ask if anyone else has seen a problem or if TiVo sent out a recent update -- and there you were.

So anyway: TiVo desktop will not transfer anything to the PC no matter how you tweak it's settings and it's not a Windows Firewall issue.

The same goes for kmttg -- any TiVo --> PC transfer fails, UNTIL YOU CHANGE THE TRANSFER PROTOCOL FROM PERL TO JAVA. That seems to do the trick and I'm transferring shows right now as I type.
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post #2242 of 2564
2/16/13 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

The problem is that the Tivo is sending an expired cookie, so the web browser won't send it back.

To be specific:

Server: tivo-httpd-1:11.0k-01-2:652
Set-Cookie: sid=; path=/; expires="Saturday, 16-Feb-2013 00:00:00 GMT";

It seems to send that expiry date no matter what.

That's from the TiVo web site. Looks like it stopped yesterday. It affects all series (except 1). At least there is a work around. I wonder how long that code has been waiting to activate.
This is bizarre. I tried the thing with setting back the date and sure enough TiVo Desktop worked. I wonder how long it will take them to fix this one. This is not just for the Premier. My TiVo HD (series 3) is having the problem.
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post #2243 of 2564
2/17/13 at 6:34am
Transfers via kmttg were also failing, but a new version of kmttg the next day apparently included a workaround for the bad cookies. I haven't installed it myself yet.

The TiVo Transfer application that comes with Roxio Toast for Mac OS still works. I'm using it right now, in fact, until I get a chance to install the lateset kmttg.
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post #2244 of 2564
2/17/13 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by jtbell View Post

Transfers via kmttg were also failing, but a new version of kmttg the next day apparently included a workaround for the bad cookies. I haven't installed it myself yet.

The TiVo Transfer application that comes with Roxio Toast for Mac OS still works. I'm using it right now, in fact, until I get a chance to install the lateset kmttg.
I was using kmttg_v0p9k, which I found worked fine when you changed the transport protocol to JAVA. I saw your tip and downloaded/installed kmttg_v0p9l. It works just fine like it used to using perl and not having to switch to JAVA. TiVo desktop, of course, is still down.
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post #2245 of 2564
2/17/13 at 10:04am
It looks like someone found another workaround for this also. Involves editing one line in the "Curl.conf" file.
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post #2246 of 2564
2/17/13 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

It looks like someone found another workaround for this also. Involves editing one line in the "Curl.conf" file.
Works perfectly. So the simple fix will be a small update to TiVo Desktop software.
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post #2247 of 2564
2/17/13 at 3:15pm
We use our Tivos for our main music sources and enjoy Pandora and the Tivos a lot. Although I consider the audio quality to be decent, it still can't touch the quality of the Pioneer Elite CD player. Since I'm always on a quest to improve SQ, is there anything I can put between the Tivo that will improve sound to that of the CD player?
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post #2248 of 2564
2/17/13 at 3:17pm
Some receivers have the capability to improve the sound of compressed audio sources like Pandora. My Denon receiver has the feature. But it can only do so much.
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post #2249 of 2564
2/17/13 at 4:01pm
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We use our Tivos for our main music sources and enjoy Pandora and the Tivos a lot. Although I consider the audio quality to be decent, it still can't touch the quality of the Pioneer Elite CD player. Since I'm always on a quest to improve SQ, is there anything I can put between the Tivo that will improve sound to that of the CD player?
My TiVo and my Sony BDP-S570 both feed my AVR, a Yamaha RX-V867. I use Pandora almost daily. The sampling rate is identical (48kHz) and both have a buffer for the Pandora data. The buffer is nice since there is less impact on my internet use. Both are wireless also. There is no detectable difference between the BD player and the TiVo to my ears. Of course, how it sounds to you is most important.

My TV and AVR can also access Pandora and the sound is good but they stream rather than buffer. Pandora is stereo so I tend to use a lot of DSP on the content.
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post #2250 of 2564
2/18/13 at 1:24am
Thanks for the comments. I think I see the problem now. The CD player is connected to the receiver, while the Tivos are both connected directly to their TVs, using the TVs to output the audio signal to the receivers. Does that mean the receiver isn't doing any of the DAC work?

EDIT; I had HDMI switching issues with the Pioneer when I first got it and just went around the whole thing with an optical out from the TV. The Pioneer is now on a different TV, so perhaps I can give it a try again. Maybe see if there is a firmware update.
Edited by CleatusCat - 2/18/13 at 1:33am
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