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post #2311 of 2524
Please join me on Twitter in challenging TWCs assertion that the content providers require CCI=0x02

@xnappo
@TWCableHelp why oh why do you set CCI on all cable channels? don't say it the content owners since Verizon doesn't do it!
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@xnappo Our apologies, however Time Warner Cable negotiates the distribution rights for the programming it carries with the individual
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@TWCableHelp Possibly you can get some negotiating skills from Verizon then smile.gif I have a hard time believing every channel requires CCI=0x02

xnappo
post #2312 of 2524
Won't do any good, been argued to death by Tivo users all the way up to corporate and they got letters stating it was corporate policy. Doesn't really matter what some company rep claims is the reason.
post #2313 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Michael1138 View Post

--- While playing a recorded show, if I bring up Tivo Central, is there a way to exit that screen without going to My Shows and choosing the show and hitting Resume? Seems like an awful lot of button presses just to make one screen go away.

--- I'm not a big fan of the "smart-cue" while FFW or REW. I'd rather it just start at the point I hit Play. At least the Sony had adjustments for this feature. Is there any way to change it?

--- I always liked having the ability to bring up just the timeline by hitting the Up button; and I could dismiss it by pressing Down. It didn't obscure much of the screen, and was helpful for just figuring out where I was. The Tivo requires you to press Pause to bring up the timeline, which is disruptive in my opinion.

--- The ability to add Bookmarks is greatly missed. I used this all the time for concerts, sports, etc. to mark specific locations so I could easily go back and watch them again. I also used this feature if I started dozing off and was too stubborn to just stop down.rolleyes.gif

--- I miss having a Stop button. I know that Live TV basically does the same thing, but at least on the Sony, it provided further options, such as deleting the program.

To exit TiVo Central and resume whatever's playing, use the Zoom button.

I think we're stuck with "smart-cue", so just learn to adapt by adjusting your timing.

To bring up the timeline, press the Play button. Press again to dismiss the timeline (or wait for it to time out).

TiVo doesn't allow you to add bookmarks. Sorry.

When you want to stop, try the left arrow button. If used near the end of a recording, it offers a delete option.
post #2314 of 2524
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

Yes it seems to be about 12 days, but I guess it is how you count days LOL.
True. I count today as one of them.
post #2315 of 2524
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Originally Posted by L David Matheny View Post

To exit TiVo Central and resume whatever's playing, use the Zoom button.

I think we're stuck with "smart-cue", so just learn to adapt by adjusting your timing.

To bring up the timeline, press the Play button. Press again to dismiss the timeline (or wait for it to time out).

TiVo doesn't allow you to add bookmarks. Sorry.

When you want to stop, try the left arrow button. If used near the end of a recording, it offers a delete option.

Cool! I will try them out when I get home this evening.
post #2316 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Michael1138 View Post

Hi guys. I made the move from the Sony DHG to the Premiere this past Saturday. I hated to retire a perfectly good piece of equipment, but the lack of a guide and reliable clock made it not the most enjoyable experience. .................

We moved to Dallas last November; it's so cold here. If it is 50 degrees in Dallas and 50 degrees in Houston, Dallas still feels 50 degrees colder.

I moved from the DHG to the TiVo too. No question I miss the "stop" button, smart que adjust, bookmarks, the "exit" button, consistent user interface, define your own grid and many more. The Sony buttons and menus always did the same thing; not the constant changing in response to a button etc.

No question the Season Pass which we use for new HD shows only, combined with two tuners makes the TiVo all worth while. TiVo does need to work on improvements to just Basic DVR stuff. I really miss the speed on the Sony.

We are still using the Sony here in Dallas for the occasional "third" channel recording. We still have a rock solid Date/Time so just hitting the red button once gives quick set of channel, date, start, and finish time, press select and your done. I have no idea what will happen with a power loss, DST change, etc. And of course when the local station removes the inserter the box becomes useless.
post #2317 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Michael1138 View Post

Hi guys. I made the move from the Sony DHG to the Premiere this past Saturday. I hated to retire a perfectly good piece of equipment, but the lack of a guide and reliable clock made it not the most enjoyable experience. I still have another one running at my parent's house, so the dream is still alive.smile.gif

I've only used the Tivo for a couple of days, and so far the initial experience is positive. It will take some getting use to, but I have some questions/observations that hopefully you guys can help with. Granted, these are all comparisons to the Sony, so I have seven years of bias to get past.tongue.gif

--- While playing a recorded show, if I bring up Tivo Central, is there a way to exit that screen without going to My Shows and choosing the show and hitting Resume? Seems like an awful lot of button presses just to make one screen go away.

--- I'm not a big fan of the "smart-cue" while FFW or REW. I'd rather it just start at the point I hit Play. At least the Sony had adjustments for this feature. Is there any way to change it?

--- I always liked having the ability to bring up just the timeline by hitting the Up button; and I could dismiss it by pressing Down. It didn't obscure much of the screen, and was helpful for just figuring out where I was. The Tivo requires you to press Pause to bring up the timeline, which is disruptive in my opinion.

--- The ability to add Bookmarks is greatly missed. I used this all the time for concerts, sports, etc. to mark specific locations so I could easily go back and watch them again. I also used this feature if I started dozing off and was too stubborn to just stop down.rolleyes.gif

--- I miss having a Stop button. I know that Live TV basically does the same thing, but at least on the Sony, it provided further options, such as deleting the program.

--- If I'm watching a recording, but it is technically still within the buffer range, when I get to the end of the program, it seamlessly continues to the next program on the tuner. I wish it would just pop the screen up asking me if I want to delete the program.

--- I think someone mentioned this earlier, but if I'm in the live buffer and a recording starts, it jumps to the beginning of the new recording and wipes out the buffer. Hopefully this is a bug. My CM-7000PAL sometimes does this and it's highly annoying.

--- It would be nice if there were more speed options for the Slow Motion button, and if it would work in reverse as well.

--- There really needs to be a Closed Captioned button on the remote. I was going to get one of these for my parents, but they balked at it when they saw there was no CC button. They use this all the time on their Dish DTVPal DVR, mainly because their hearing's not what it used to be, and the fact that no one enunciates anymore.

I'm sure I'll have more questions as I continue to use it. I don't even want to think about the web features right now; that's all new to me.

I'll submit these to Tivo's suggestion survey as well. That's the good thing about a product that is actively being developed: you get new features and updates on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by L David Matheny View Post

To exit TiVo Central and resume whatever's playing, use the Zoom button.

I think we're stuck with "smart-cue", so just learn to adapt by adjusting your timing.

To bring up the timeline, press the Play button. Press again to dismiss the timeline (or wait for it to time out).

TiVo doesn't allow you to add bookmarks. Sorry.

When you want to stop, try the left arrow button. If used near the end of a recording, it offers a delete option.

You have a bit of a learning curve ahead of you. You will find answers to many of your questions in the user's manual; others have already been dealt with in this and other on-line fora. Check out, inter alia, Tivo Community, and the TiVo Help Forums.

Here are a couple of suggestions in addition to David's post above:

For Closed Captioning, hit "INFO" or the RIGHT arrow to bring up the channel banner. From here you can toggle CC on/off by selecting the CC icon. (I use CC quite a bit and I think a dedicated button on the TiVo remote would be great improvement; for now, if you want one-click access to CC you'll need to use a programmable remote that accepts macro commands, such as the Logitech Harmony series.)

For keeping track of the playback status, one backdoor feature I love to use is the elapsed time and real-time clock display. From the live TV screen when using the HDUI, hit "SELECT" "SELECT" "PLAY" "SELECT" "9" "SELECT". (You should get an audible confirmation of three "dings" if the code is accepted; if you don't hear the dings and the clock is not displayed try again. It takes a bit of practice to get the knack of entering it correctly.) The resulting time display in the upper right-hard corner (see attached photo) is small enough on a large-format screen so as not to be intrusive, but it allows me to see the time as well as how far into a recording's playback I am at a glance. Note, however, as with any backdoor codes, that you will have to reenter the code anytime the TiVo is rebooted. You can turn this feature off by entering the code again.
Edited by chi_guy50 - 2/26/13 at 12:17pm
post #2318 of 2524
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

We moved to Dallas last November; it's so cold here. If it is 50 degrees in Dallas and 50 degrees in Houston, Dallas still feels 50 degrees colder.

I moved from the DHG to the TiVo too. No question I miss the "stop" button, smart que adjust, bookmarks, the "exit" button, consistent user interface, define your own grid and many more. The Sony buttons and menus always did the same thing; not the constant changing in response to a button etc.

No question the Season Pass which we use for new HD shows only, combined with two tuners makes the TiVo all worth while. TiVo does need to work on improvements to just Basic DVR stuff. I really miss the speed on the Sony.

We are still using the Sony here in Dallas for the occasional "third" channel recording. We still have a rock solid Date/Time so just hitting the red button once gives quick set of channel, date, start, and finish time, press select and your done. I have no idea what will happen with a power loss, DST change, etc. And of course when the local station removes the inserter the box becomes useless.

I've followed your trek on this and the DHG forum. Your experiences and remarks regarding the TiVo have been extremely helpful in preparing me for what to expect. We both had similar reactions when comparing the two units, which ranged from "Dang it!" to "Finally!" biggrin.gif

Luckily for me, the TiVo is a little snappier than my DHG. I think it had started to suffer from what someone way back in the DHG forum called "bit-rot." It actually started when I applied the digital TVGOS patch, but it was rock solid.

I have a CM-7000PAL for my third and fourth tuners. It's super fast; not much in the way of features or menus to slow it down. However, I'm about to go through the DST dance with it.tongue.gif
post #2319 of 2524
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

TiVo 001.JPG 143k .JPG file

You have a bit of a learning curve ahead of you. You will find answers to many of your questions in the user's manual; others have already been dealt with in this and other on-line fora. Check out, inter alia, Tivo Community, and the TiVo Help Forums.

Here are a couple of suggestions in addition to David's post above:

For Closed Captioning, hit "INFO" or the RIGHT arrow to bring up the channel banner. From here you can toggle CC on/off by selecting the CC icon. (I use CC quite a bit and I think a dedicated button on the TiVo remote would be great improvement; for now, if you want one-click access to CC you'll need to use a programmable remote that accepts macro commands, such as the Logitech Harmony series.)

For keeping track of the playback status, one backdoor feature I love to use is the elapsed time and real-time clock display. From the live TV screen when using the HDUI, hit "SELECT" "SELECT" "PLAY" "SELECT" "9" "SELECT". (You should get an audible confirmation of three "dings" if the code is accepted; if you don't hear the dings and the clock is not displayed try again. It takes a bit of practice to get the knack of entering it correctly.) The resulting time display in the upper right-hard corner (see attached photo) is small enough on a large-format screen so as not to be intrusive, but it allows me to see the time as well as how far into a recording's playback I am at a glance. Note, however, as with any backdoor codes, that you will have to reenter the code anytime the TiVo is rebooted. You can turn this feature off by entering the code again.

Thanks for the tips.smile.gif I've followed the TiVo Community forums, not so much with the TiVo Help Forum. I feel a little silly with the remote sometimes; I'm having to hold it with two hands because the navigational arrows are oddly placed at the top of the remote, at least to me. Once I get everything programmed into my receiver's remote, I'm sure it will become much more intuitive.
post #2320 of 2524
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

I already answered your question the first time you asked it, in my post #2275.

If such things don't bother you and you can't empathize with those of us who find them irritating, then so be it. Enjoy your OCD-free state..

Your answer (#2275) didn't really answer my question. To me, it just another menu/program item (one of many) that I may or may not click on ... and it was buried so far down the "list," that I didn't even see it until I deliberately went looking for it.

What I wanted to know is if there was some issue/problem with the app itself, since my introduction to the subject was a comment in this thread that started with the words, "I've been infected ..."
post #2321 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Michael1138 View Post

I've followed your trek on this and the DHG forum. Your experiences and remarks regarding the TiVo have been extremely helpful in preparing me for what to expect. We both had similar reactions when comparing the two units, which ranged from "Dang it!" to "Finally!" biggrin.gif

Luckily for me, the TiVo is a little snappier than my DHG. I think it had started to suffer from what someone way back in the DHG forum called "bit-rot." It actually started when I applied the digital TVGOS patch, but it was rock solid.

I have a CM-7000PAL for my third and fourth tuners. It's super fast; not much in the way of features or menus to slow it down. However, I'm about to go through the DST dance with it.tongue.gif


I have ordered a Sony RM-VLZ620 as an experiment – only $20. The old RM-VL610 it replaces is effectively worn out.

One of the goals is to see if the following can be accomplished:

Bring all transport controls together to “one” location on the remote
Create a fake “exit” button (TiVo’s Zoom).
Create a fake “stop” button (TiVo’s left arrow).
Put the “decimal point” where it belongs, etc.

Those above items should be very easy to accomplish with the new remote.

The 620 like the 610 only has a few buttons that can be macro-ed. And therein lies the problem(s), there are too many basic functions on the TiVo that will require multiple steps to get “one” thing done – because the programming was not completed and designed into the box.

The experiment may or may not work and since this is a low priority, it may take a while to figure it out. LOL

Of course a more expensive Harmony can handle tons of macros on dozens of buttons– but yikes to that for now.
post #2322 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Michael1138 View Post

Thanks for the tips.smile.gif I've followed the TiVo Community forums, not so much with the TiVo Help Forum. I feel a little silly with the remote sometimes; I'm having to hold it with two hands because the navigational arrows are oddly placed at the top of the remote, at least to me. Once I get everything programmed into my receiver's remote, I'm sure it will become much more intuitive.

The remote is designed to be comfortable in the hand. It's one of the best remotes I've been using during the last twelve years. The BT slide remote for the TiVo is even better since it's a little smaller. Unfortunately it's discontinued. I'm glad I got three of them before that happened since it's even much better than the regular TiVo remote. Plus it doesn't need line of sight. I'll typically use my Slide remotes instead of using my Harmony One remotes.
post #2323 of 2524
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

I have ordered a Sony RM-VLZ620 as an experiment – only $20. The old RM-VL610 it replaces is effectively worn out.

One of the goals is to see if the following can be accomplished:

Bring all transport controls together to “one” location on the remote
Create a fake “exit” button (TiVo’s Zoom).
Create a fake “stop” button (TiVo’s left arrow).
Put the “decimal point” where it belongs, etc.

Those above items should be very easy to accomplish with the new remote.

The 620 like the 610 only has a few buttons that can be macro-ed. And therein lies the problem(s), there are too many basic functions on the TiVo that will require multiple steps to get “one” thing done – because the programming was not completed and designed into the box.

The experiment may or may not work and since this is a low priority, it may take a while to figure it out. LOL

Of course a more expensive Harmony can handle tons of macros on dozens of buttons– but yikes to that for now.

We're on the same page. I've done this with my Pioneer Elite receiver's remote for all of my components: Sony DHG (2 at one point in time), CM-7000PAL DVR, BD, DVD, and TV.

The cool thing about the Pioneer remote is it has a "Shift" button so you can assign two commands to the same button. Now, that really does require you to use two hands on the remote.tongue.gif If anyone tried to use my remote, they'd probably get confused as some of the labels don't match what I have them programmed to do. But, it makes it completely intuitive for me, as everything has a natural flow.

I looked at that Sony remote on Amazon's page. If it lets you program any button, then you should be in good shape. Again, the labels won't match, but that's not the point.
post #2324 of 2524
Wishlist and YouTube

Is there a way to make wishlist season pass for YouTube “new” programs for specific channels? Such as specific news programs?

I guess YouTube is only available as a stream and not as a saved recording?
post #2325 of 2524
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

Wishlist and YouTube

Is there a way to make wishlist season pass for YouTube “new” programs for specific channels? Such as specific news programs?

I guess YouTube is only available as a stream and not as a saved recording?
Take a look at the Podcast capability- you might find what you want there and you can subscribe to those.
-I've gotten hooked on the JPL podcasts covering the Mars Lander Curiosity...
post #2326 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Bill_Wilke View Post

Take a look at the Podcast capability- you might find what you want there and you can subscribe to those.
-I've gotten hooked on the JPL podcasts covering the Mars Lander Curiosity...

Ok, thanks I will give that a whirl.
post #2327 of 2524
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

My TiVo has been infected. There's now an option for Web Video Lauchpad. Any way to hide it?

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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

Your answer (#2275) didn't really answer my question. To me, it just another menu/program item (one of many) that I may or may not click on ... and it was buried so far down the "list," that I didn't even see it until I deliberately went looking for it.

What I wanted to know is if there was some issue/problem with the app itself, since my introduction to the subject was a comment in this thread that started with the words, "I've been infected ..."


That was JoeKustra's hyperbolic (to you non-OCD types) cry for help. But just to be on the safe side, you might want to get yourself a shot of penicillin.
post #2328 of 2524
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post


That was JoeKustra's hyperbolic (to you non-OCD types) cry for help. But just to be on the safe side, you might want to get yourself a shot of penicillin.
I guess I should feel bad if I scared anyone. By Sunday night My Shows contains only the Recently Deleted folder. Then it gets cleared. Humor is hard sometimes. smile.gif
post #2329 of 2524
The Sony Remote RM-VLZ620 came today. Hopefully by this weekend I will get to the programming etc.

Using the pre-canned code 20739 provided by Sony it is about 90-95% on target for the TiVo Premier. “List” button already takes you to “My Shows” (recordings). Also exit (TiVo Zoom when not using zoom) is ready to go as well; that is the “Return” key – this is addition to the “recall” and “Enter” keys as well (not to be confused with “Select”). Both Thumbs Up and Down are already programmed as well. I will be able to program the badly needed “stop” and a official “enter” key (bottom right on a TiVo remote). And surprisingly the “input” key is not programmed with the above code, but that will also be easy to do. Surprisingly, other codes provided by Sony for TiVo did activate the “input” key as desired, but not the magically stuff above, so I went with the magical since “input” is easy to program.

If all the programming is successful, it will be a significant improvement over the TiVo remote. Just having the Select wheel in the middle and 100% of all transport controls together, means I will be able to do most functions blind folded in the dark. Both select wheel and transport controls are within about 2 inches apart requiring only two phalanges to get all task done. No longer using two hands from top to bottom on the remote should make running the TiVo easier for me.

I have not yet coded the Sony remote for the DHG but assume it will similar to the 610 remote.

The Panasonic TV code is also about 90-95% on target, so some minor programming will need to be done. I expect the Denon and Panasonic BD coding will be similar to the 610 remote as well; not too much work.
post #2330 of 2524
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Originally Posted by HoustonPerson View Post

The Sony Remote RM-VLZ620 came today. Hopefully by this weekend I will get to the programming etc.

Using the pre-canned code 20739 provided by Sony it is about 90-95% on target for the TiVo Premier. “List” button already takes you to “My Shows” (recordings). Also exit (TiVo Zoom when not using zoom) is ready to go as well; that is the “Return” key – this is addition to the “recall” and “Enter” keys as well (not to be confused with “Select”). Both Thumbs Up and Down are already programmed as well. I will be able to program the badly needed “stop” and a official “enter” key (bottom right on a TiVo remote). And surprisingly the “input” key is not programmed with the above code, but that will also be easy to do. Surprisingly, other codes provided by Sony for TiVo did activate the “input” key as desired, but not the magically stuff above, so I went with the magical since “input” is easy to program.

If all the programming is successful, it will be a significant improvement over the TiVo remote. Just having the Select wheel in the middle and 100% of all transport controls together, means I will be able to do most functions blind folded in the dark. Both select wheel and transport controls are within about 2 inches apart requiring only two phalanges to get all task done. No longer using two hands from top to bottom on the remote should make running the TiVo easier for me.

I have not yet coded the Sony remote for the DHG but assume it will similar to the 610 remote.

The Panasonic TV code is also about 90-95% on target, so some minor programming will need to be done. I expect the Denon and Panasonic BD coding will be similar to the 610 remote as well; not too much work.

FWIW, I have been very happily using a couple of Sony RM-VL700 remotes for many years and two generations of TiVo's. Although they do not accommodate macros in any real sense of the term, they serve my purposes well for up to five components and I find them ergonomically pleasing. My living room Premiere XL4 feeds into a Denon AVR-3311CI, and I very rarely have the need to access either the TiVo or Denon remote.

I do have a Harmony 700 which I bought over a year ago with the idea of providing the wife with something more user friendly. But she is so remote-challenged she doesn't want to have anything to do with it, and I have been more than satisfied with my RM-VL700's. YMMV, however, as remote operation is highly subjective.
post #2331 of 2524
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post


That was JoeKustra's hyperbolic (to you non-OCD types) cry for help. But just to be on the safe side, you might want to get yourself a shot of penicillin.

LOL ... you never know these days ... those pesky Chinese hackers are everywhere wink.gif

The complete lack of any new feature announcement from TiVo didn't help much either. I mean it's not like there's a way TiVo could send a message to our boxes or anything. rolleyes.gif
post #2332 of 2524
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

By Sunday night My Shows contains only the Recently Deleted folder. Then it gets cleared. Humor is hard sometimes. smile.gif

Unfortunately, mine stays pretty well stocked ... It all started innocently enough ...
post #2333 of 2524
Well the programming on the new Sony RM-VLZ620 remote is essentially complete for the TiVo Stuff. Works like a charm. The next few days and nights of using it in the real world will be all telling. There are several improvements over the TiVo remote.

1. You can reach more frequently used buttons in less space with only two digits without looking as compared to the TiVo remote.

2. All transport controls are together on the remote.

3. Within the transport controls a fake “stop” was created – TiVo’s left arrow.

4. There is a real “return” key provided that is already programed to “exit” virtually all functions without doing harm. There really is no return/exit key on the TiVo remote so this was a pleasant surprise.

5. The “menu” key is by default the “TiVo” button.

6. The “Live TV” is easily programed to the “options” ch key.

7. This means that “Return, Menu, Options” are in a straight row all grouped together. So fast so simple. Doing all of that without looking.

8. The “List” key is also preprogrammed to “My Shows” from virtually any screen location – no longer have to hit the TiVo button twice as an example, or TiVo plus right arrow. Another time saver.

9. Easily created a real “.” key for the hyphen key. So the decimal point is on the number pad

10. Easily duplicated the A, B, C, and D keys

11. “SloMo” became “Favorites” button, easy to locate directly below transport.

12. “Clear” became “Sleep”. The traditional TiVo clear for clear is no longer needed because “Return” handles that. The “Sleep” is marked between White and Black buttons so it is very easy to see in the dark or by feel. Sleep deletes recordings, when not using the normal “stop” key above.

Page 9 of operating instructions shows the face of the remote:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=RMVLZ620&template_id=1&region_id=1&tab=manuals#/manualsTab

I think just having Return/Exit, Stop, and List makes it all worthwhile. Having a centralized transport controls, and Return/Menu/Options controls is another plus.

Now will I be just as impressed two weeks from now?

Is there any significant advantage to the TiVo remote? One advantage is the large pause key in the middle, surround by 3 of the most used transport keys. The pause key was home base, so it was easy to find, but then the other critical buttons were out of the way and hard to find. Conversely, the Sony remote has the “play” key as home base for transport with a “raised tactile point”, and surrounding that key are 9 other transport keys – 6 more transport keys than what was available on the TiVo remote.

Home base on the Sony remote is the “select” key in the middle, with like kind options surrounding it; particularly the “return/menu/options”. Easy and straight forward.

Here is the programming used:

Tivo - Code #20739
Button Assignments
Original
Remote RM-VLZ620

Page 21 set up
*** Input >> Input
Hyphen - >> . Decimal
ABCD >> ABCD
Slo-Mo >> Favorites
Replay >> <-
Replay >> <<--
Advance >> >>--
Left Arrow >> Stop
Clear >> Sleep
Live TV >> Options
TBC ** >> Open BD Tray


NCAT Zoom >> System Control 4
Not Completed At this Time

*** Used TV Remote as original for input; can also use TiVo Remote


Now the real testing begins.
post #2334 of 2524
Yes. I use the RM-VLZ620 with my tivo too. Love that remote !
post #2335 of 2524
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Yes. I use the RM-VLZ620 with my tivo too. Love that remote !


That’s two of us.

Well with just one evening’s use of the new remote I am already significantly more productive and comfortable with it. It is very easy for me to use in the dark. Having just a real “return/exit” and the “fake” stop key is another benefit. Another benefit I learned last night is the “select” surrounded by the 4 “discrete” arrow keys prevents the input errors for me. The TiVo one circle for 4 arrows was a little too difficult for me to always hit the correct “arrow”. Having MyShows under just one key “List” was used several times last night – no more messing around with menus.
post #2336 of 2524
Thanks for being so thorough regarding your setup of the Sony remote. It makes it easy to have all of this info in one place.

There wouldn't happen to be a Closed Captioned command programmed into the Sony remote? As fate would have it, my parent's DTVPal DVR killed over Wednesday night. Now they have to get the TiVo. Just curious about the CC as that was the first thing my Mom asked about when I told her about the Sony remote.
post #2337 of 2524
Question about setting up a new Premiere.

I have a Premiere that I bought used with a lifetime sub. I am now buying another one, new from a third party seller. I want to get a lifetime sub on it, but I want to make sure everything works. What's the best way to go about this? If it doesn't work, can I get a refund on the lifetime?
post #2338 of 2524
You get a 7 day free trial of service on the new Tivo, so no need to buy lifetime until you're satisfied that it works. Lifetime has a 30 day refund.
post #2339 of 2524
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

You get a 7 day free trial of service on the new Tivo, so no need to buy lifetime until you're satisfied that it works. Lifetime has a 30 day refund.

Thanks, that will work well.
post #2340 of 2524
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Originally Posted by Michael1138 View Post

Thanks for being so thorough regarding your setup of the Sony remote. It makes it easy to have all of this info in one place.

There wouldn't happen to be a Closed Captioned command programmed into the Sony remote? As fate would have it, my parent's DTVPal DVR killed over Wednesday night. Now they have to get the TiVo. Just curious about the CC as that was the first thing my Mom asked about when I told her about the Sony remote.

In using the remote in regard to Closed Caption with:

Panasonic TV – Yes it is pre canned. The “List” button is just a toggle switch for CC (on or off).

Tivo Premier – Not that I am aware of; but I assume it could be macro-ed to one of the System Control Buttons? It could be programmed to a regular key, if TiVo has programmed their software that way; much like the hidden “return/exit” and “List” keys they made that are missing from the TiVo remote, but I guess did not tell anyone about? So maybe?

If you like I could play around it to see if I can make that work?
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