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post #2941 of 3301
For the past month or so I have noticed that when I press Rewind on live TV on my Premiere, it immediately skips back to the beginning of the buffer. It seems to happen in any circumstance of watching Live TV. Rewind works normally on recorded programming (leading me to believe that I am not incorrectly pressing the rewind button in some way).

I have not seen this listed as one of the many known bugs (such as the audio drops when reaching the end of the buffer on live TV) that were introduced this Spring and will hopefully be addressed with the Fall update that is currently rolling out. The same issue occurs with the Tivo remote and my Harmony One.

I don't believe I had experienced this issue until a few months ago. Anyone else see this? I tried searching this thread and others on other sites, and saw a few mentions of the issue but no real responses.

Thanks.
post #2942 of 3301
Nope, works fine for me. Try a reboot?
post #2943 of 3301
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Originally Posted by alburtis View Post

For the past month or so I have noticed that when I press Rewind on live ....
I've seen it on my Tivo HD when I use the instant replay button. Even if that isn't your issue, try seeing if using the backdoor setting for turning on the 30 second skip fixes problem. I forget the key sequence you need to enter on the Premiere ... something like: while replaying a video

press Select-Enter-Select-3-0-Select. But that is from memory of something I did years ago, and is probably wrong. Google to find the correct sequence...

Edit In case Someone Googles, finds this post, and enters the wrong sequence:
The 30-second skip code is: Select-Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select
Edited by Hyrax - 11/3/13 at 10:13am
post #2944 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

I've seen it on my Tivo HD when I use the instant replay button. Even if that isn't your issue, try seeing if using the backdoor setting for turning on the 30 second skip fixes problem. I forget the key sequence you need to enter on the Premiere ... something like: while replaying a video

press Select-Enter-Select-3-0-Select. But that is from memory of something I did years ago, and is probably wrong. Google to find the correct sequence...

The 30-second skip code is: Select-Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select
post #2945 of 3301
The Fall update is rolling out to Premieres now, here's a list of stuff Tivo says was added/fixed. I got the update last night and the only things I've noticed are the HD Wishlists and the YouTube app loads faster (but is still dog-slow when you use it). Dynamic tuner allocation for those using Minis is a great update, but should have been in from the beginning IMO.

- "What to Watch Now" available from TiVo Central
- Press the C button in the Guide to filter by genre
- Updated WishList screens in HD
- Removed "Browse Web Videos" -- you can find web videos in Search, or use the "Web Video Hotlist", AOL.on, or YouTube apps
- 4-tuner Premieres that feed TiVo Minis no longer need to "reserve" a tuner so the Minis can watch live TV
- TiVo Minis can now remotely manage the To Do List and Season Pass Manager of TiVo Premieres
- new (HTML5) YouTube app with DIAL support
- advanced help for troubleshooting whole home network and box connectivity issues (Help > Whole Home > Streaming > Advanced Help)
- fixed the freeze in the Signal Strength meter, where it would report the same signal level for all channels
- fixed the issue where some boxes with Tuning Adapters stopped recording TiVo Suggestions
- support for out-of-home streaming through a Roamio Plus/Pro in the home (and eventually TiVo Stream, when that update is released next month)
post #2946 of 3301

All I really wanted was DTA for the Mini and I got that.  Too bad my Elite is packed right now while I move.  I'll have to add 2 Minis to the Amazon wishlist.

post #2947 of 3301
I have the original TiVo Premier - the one with 2 tuners - and Time Warner Cable.

Suddenly, some of my channels are being displayed as full screen - same as the corresponding HD channels. Also, the zoom button shows show full, panel, and zoom, but doesn't change the picture size.

Was this done on an update recently?

(I also have a Time Warner DVR box and it still shows the panel on those channels.)

Can you tell me what is going on?
cb
post #2948 of 3301
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

I have the original TiVo Premier - the one with 2 tuners - and Time Warner Cable.

Suddenly, some of my channels are being displayed as full screen - same as the corresponding HD channels. Also, the zoom button shows show full, panel, and zoom, but doesn't change the picture size.

Was this done on an update recently?

(I also have a Time Warner DVR box and it still shows the panel on those channels.)

Can you tell me what is going on?
cb

You could call your local office. The Zoom button doesn't affect native 16:9 content, only channels that are 480i. Speculation: maybe TWC screwed up and connected the HD feed to those channels and forgot to reprogram their own DVR. The Zoom button still works on my "SD" channels even though I have a fixed 1080i output on my premiere. My software is still 20.3.1 but new software is being rolled out right now.

post #2949 of 3301
I see I was lied to, as usual. I'm not saying from people here, but wherever they were.... People wen ton and on about what a great deal it was to get a lifetime license on TiVo because "if you then sell it later on, you get around 80% of your investment back". Total BS. I see on ebay the XL4 is only going for around $500 WIITH LFIETIME. So you're basically giving them the XL4 for FREE and only getting your lifetime amount back. MEANWHILE the ones without a lifetime license get $150. So now my plan on taking advantage of the $200 off promotion for a roamio and selling this one is screwed. I would still be out a freakin $400 extra. I really wanted to do it, too, where I could have the built in wifi and more storage.

In case I DO ever sell this one, can't I move my recordings to another TiVo first, where I can keep them?
post #2950 of 3301
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

I see I was lied to, as usual. I'm not saying from people here, but wherever they were.... People wen ton and on about what a great deal it was to get a lifetime license on TiVo because "if you then sell it later on, you get around 80% of your investment back". Total BS. I see on ebay the XL4 is only going for around $500 WIITH LFIETIME. So you're basically giving them the XL4 for FREE and only getting your lifetime amount back. MEANWHILE the ones without a lifetime license get $150. So now my plan on taking advantage of the $200 off promotion for a roamio and selling this one is screwed. I would still be out a freakin $400 extra. I really wanted to do it, too, where I could have the built in wifi and more storage.

In case I DO ever sell this one, can't I move my recordings to another TiVo first, where I can keep them?

A TiVo XL 4 costs around $250 brand new right now. With lifetime that is $650. So if you sold a used one for $500 right now that is 77% of the cost of a brand new Elite. Not quite 80% but very close.

I know people that have received $600 to $700 for their lifetime XL4 boxes recently but it really depends on the used market and also where you sell it(ie ebay, craigslist, forums, etc). The used market is always in flux.. In my case I sold my Elite boxes when there was a glut on the market. Plus I sold one on TiVo community and I sold one here at AVS, so i sold it at a much lower price than I would have gotten on ebay, but also with far, far fewer hassles. I was only concerned with what my two lifetime Elite boxes would cover of my Roamio Pro box purchase. They covered 90% of the cost of my Lifetime Roamio pro which was perfetcly fine with me after using the Elites for a couple of years. I could have gone the ebay route and covered over 100% of the cost, but to me it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing with eBay to get a few hundred more dollars.
Edited by aaronwt - 11/4/13 at 12:07pm
post #2951 of 3301
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

You could call your local office. The Zoom button doesn't affect native 16:9 content, only channels that are 480i. Speculation: maybe TWC screwed up and connected the HD feed to those channels and forgot to reprogram their own DVR. The Zoom button still works on my "SD" channels even though I have a fixed 1080i output on my premiere. My software is still 20.3.1 but new software is being rolled out right now.

Can it be that I'm not supposed to get those channels in HD?
I'm reluctant to call them because I'm afraid their software folks will screw up everything.
cb
post #2952 of 3301
^^ well, that makes more sense. I just never took into account they could drop the asking price so much, so quickly. I figured it would be like Oppo products,w here they stop even manufacturing the 4 series, so it would go for close to 80% of the original cost. So obviously my mistake was not selling this right when the new versions were announced. But then I would have had now ay to save my recordings either.

Well the top roamio must be costing more than the xl4 ever did, for this promotion to be selling it for "$200 fof" and it still costing $900. Also really I guess they're basically misleading by saying $200 off, anyway, as lifetime would already be $100 off for current customers as it is, so the promotion really only saves $100.

I really wish I could get the roamio, but $400 out of pocket to go from the xl4 to it is too expensive. If it were only $200 difference it would be worth it.
post #2953 of 3301
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post


Can it be that I'm not supposed to get those channels in HD?
I'm reluctant to call them because I'm afraid their software folks will screw up everything.
cb

I have no way to tell. You can enable all formats to see if there is a change. Check your bill. Or just ignore it and hope they fix it. Cable can be quite an adventure.

post #2954 of 3301
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post

I have the original TiVo Premier - the one with 2 tuners - and Time Warner Cable.

Suddenly, some of my channels are being displayed as full screen - same as the corresponding HD channels. Also, the zoom button shows show full, panel, and zoom, but doesn't change the picture size.

Was this done on an update recently?

(I also have a Time Warner DVR box and it still shows the panel on those channels.)

Can you tell me what is going on?
cb

Some SD cable channels are starting to broadcast in SD 16x9 @ 480i one such channel that I receive is BYUTV SD

It's called Active Format Description:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Format_Description
post #2955 of 3301
Does anyone have an opinion on the official tivo wireless adaptors, as in whether or not N is really eneded more than G? Seems like I read somewhere that the G is good enough, but if it's not, I don't want the headache of it. Apparently I am just going to have to buy a wireless adaptor and forget getting a roamio because the adaptor is around $60, compared with $400 to go from mine to the roamio. And, hck, I didn'[t even figure in the outrageous fees from ebay, paypal, etc... so I would really be paying even more.

I wonder if the roamio interface is any better than the xl4, though, such as faster menus, if nothing else. I don't care much about recording 6 channels at once, so getting the roamio pro would be paying $400 to only get built in wireless and an extra TB of space.
post #2956 of 3301
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Does anyone have an opinion on the official tivo wireless adaptors, as in whether or not N is really eneded more than G? Seems like I read somewhere that the G is good enough, but if it's not, I don't want the headache of it. Apparently I am just going to have to buy a wireless adaptor and forget getting a roamio because the adaptor is around $60, compared with $400 to go from mine to the roamio. And, hck, I didn'[t even figure in the outrageous fees from ebay, paypal, etc... so I would really be paying even more.

I wonder if the roamio interface is any better than the xl4, though, such as faster menus, if nothing else. I don't care much about recording 6 channels at once, so getting the roamio pro would be paying $400 to only get built in wireless and an extra TB of space.

As to the first part, I didn't know there was a wireless G for the Series 4. If there is, it would probably be good enough to do internet access but I can't comment on how it would work between two Premieres until next week. This is a very good help page:

http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1591

post #2957 of 3301
Oh yeah looks like the G is only for series 2 and 3. I sure thought I had read before that either could be used on the 4.
post #2958 of 3301
I went from a g to an n and there was a huge difference.
post #2959 of 3301
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Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

Oh yeah looks like the G is only for series 2 and 3. I sure thought I had read before that either could be used on the 4.

Don't spend the money for the TiVo Wireless N Adapter - $89.99

Any Wireless to Ethernet gaming adapter or Wireless Bridge will work fine. A Dual-Band Wireless Bridge would be the best if you have a Dual-Band router. 5GHz Dual-Band is really needed if you plan to use Multi-Room Streaming (MRS) over WiFi.

The D-Link DAP-1522 is often on sale for $49.99
http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Wireless-Gigabit-Extender-DAP-1522/dp/B001769K3O/

NETGEAR Universal N600 Dual Band Wi-Fi to Ethernet Adapter (WNCE3001) - $49.99
http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-WNCE3001/dp/B005N6XBDO/

The Edimax EW-7228APn would be fine just for Netflix, and TiVo connections, but would not work well for Multi-Room Streaming
www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7228APn-150Mbps-Wireless-Extender/dp/B005KN1YV6/

You can also configure many inexpensive routers to act as a bridge.
Edited by Bryan_CoxPHX - 11/4/13 at 8:08pm
post #2960 of 3301
It's not going to be much difference, though, because the TiVo adaptor is only $62 on there. Unless there's a reason other than cost to use something else.
post #2961 of 3301
Quote:
Originally Posted by somelogin View Post

It's not going to be much difference, though, because the TiVo adaptor is only $62 on there. Unless there's a reason other than cost to use something else.
You will get much better performance and stability with powerline adapters.
post #2962 of 3301
I am happy to hear the fall update is now rolling out and apparently correcting the frozen signal meter problem. It has not functioned correctly for about 6 months. Although I haven't received my update yet in SC. Hopefully it will be soon.
post #2963 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Some SD cable channels are starting to broadcast in SD 16x9 @ 480i one such channel that I receive is BYUTV SD

It's called Active Format Description:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Format_Description

I think we have a sub channel here doing that. I couldn't figure out why the TiVo zoom button didn't do anything even though it was a 480i signal. So this would explain it.
post #2964 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Don't spend the money for the TiVo Wireless N Adapter - $89.99

Any Wireless to Ethernet gaming adapter or Wireless Bridge will work fine. A Dual-Band Wireless Bridge would be the best if you have a Dual-Band router. 5GHz Dual-Band is really needed if you plan to use Multi-Room Streaming (MRS) over WiFi.

The D-Link DAP-1522 is often on sale for $49.99
http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Wireless-Gigabit-Extender-DAP-1522/dp/B001769K3O/

NETGEAR Universal N600 Dual Band Wi-Fi to Ethernet Adapter (WNCE3001) - $49.99
http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-WNCE3001/dp/B005N6XBDO/

The Edimax EW-7228APn would be fine just for Netflix, and TiVo connections, but would not work well for Multi-Room Streaming
www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7228APn-150Mbps-Wireless-Extender/dp/B005KN1YV6/

You can also configure many inexpensive routers to act as a bridge.

The DAP1522 units work great. I have eight of them and have been using them for many years with no issues.
post #2965 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Some SD cable channels are starting to broadcast in SD 16x9 @ 480i one such channel that I receive is BYUTV SD

It's called Active Format Description:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Format_Description

But is it actually recording in HD mode? If so, it will fill my disk sooner.
Can I force SD mode to be able to keep more shows?
cb
post #2966 of 3301
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Originally Posted by abredt View Post


But is it actually recording in HD mode? If so, it will fill my disk sooner.
Can I force SD mode to be able to keep more shows?
cb

A 480i show sent via a 1080i channel will be smaller in disk space. You can verify this with the TiVo information screen (scroll down).

post #2967 of 3301
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

As to the first part, I didn't know there was a wireless G for the Series 4. If there is, it would probably be good enough to do internet access but I can't comment on how it would work between two Premieres until next week. This is a very good help page:
http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1591

I see you got another TiVo. Is it a two or four tuner model? I have my two Premiere 4s set up with my wired gigabit network and everything works perfectly. Did you get the fall update yet? I didn't get it yet as I didn't sign up for it on the priority list.
post #2968 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Jed1 View Post


I see you got another TiVo. Is it a two or four tuner model? I have my two Premiere 4s set up with my wired gigabit network and everything works perfectly. Did you get the fall update yet? I didn't get it yet as I didn't sign up for it on the priority list.

I saw a good price for a two tuner 500GB model. I'll have one downstairs and one in my "room". After all is done making it livable I'll get the cable card. Everything upstairs is wireless. No update yet, nor do I really care. All it seems to do is improve the advertising. It does fix problems I don't have. BTW, I also have a WNDR4500 also. My sister can use my printer now.

 

Looked at Zap2It today? All the networks logo graphics are wrong for our zipcode. I sent feedback.

post #2969 of 3301
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

You will get much better performance and stability with powerline adapters.
if you mean those MOCA devices, I think it was determined when I talked to TiVo about them that I can't even use them.
post #2970 of 3301
There is some good prices on new leftover Premiere models. I should pick one up for my sister for Christmas.

I am in no hurry for the update as my two TiVos are doing everything I wanted them to do. I hope the update doesn't muck that up.

I have the Netgear router with Tivo storage. I did try it out a few months ago with my external HP drive and it did show up in the TiVo menu but I did not muck around with it to see how it worked.

I just checked Zap2It and it is really a mess. Did you check the TiVo guide to see if it is affected? I am hoping this is not my fault as I did send them a list of the channels that will still missing the channel logos. I see some of the channels that were missing have logos now but they are on the wrong channels. So much for Smooth Sailing TiVo style!biggrin.gif
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