The Official AVS TiVo "Series4" Premiere topic - Page 2

That 'splains it' bfdtv, thanks.

I wonder if they added any color-coding or some other indicators in the guide display to denote which shows are scheduled to record. That would be a far more meaningful upgrade to the guide display than some HD eye-candy.

+1

At the very least I'd like to guide to fill the screen, and showing a longer time period would be a plus. IMO the DirecTV Guide is the best looking of them all. I would also like to see what shows are scheduled to record in the guide as well as what's currently recording like Navigator does. I wouldn't mind the guide looking somewhat like the Comcast Tivo looks like here: http://www.tivo.com/products/source/...ast/index.html

I'm aware of that. If you look at the info, it's listed as a feature that won't be available at launch. Adding direct streaming has been discussed by TiVo since transfers cannot be used for any 'locked' content. It is a distinct disadvantage versus the devices that offer streaming.


Figured it didn't support MoCA. As for not supporting any cable VOD services, yes, it is up to the cable companies. For my particular circumstances however, FiOS was mentioned as one of the ones that may work with it. TiVo partnered with SeaChange last year, and they happen to provide the infrastructure for FiOS's on demand services.


Yes, I was referring to the rate. What I'm wondering is what the actual discount is.


That would be my hope.

BTW - I should also mention that I REALLY want them to make some sort of multi-system scheduling/control feature, so you can treat multiple TiVo's as a single DVR.

it's $9.95 a month for each additional box.

YES. I want to control both DVR's from one spot, and if there is a conflict it should offload to the other one.

Interesting that the same company - NDS - that did DirecTV's IPG also did the 16:9 HD IPG that Cox will soon release for their HD DVRs.

Hmmm. Any sort of discount if you get lifetime? $9.95 + cablecard rental is a bit steep.




Exactly! As far as the DVR aspects go, it shouldn't be two (or more) separate boxes. It should be abstracted to one set of resources.

Thanks. That's not too bad.


Good point.

Will the S4 allow me to stream video content from my pc to the TV like a media streamer. Can you record TV directly to HD on the network that the S4 is attached to?

Hey Doug! It doesn't look like they mentioned any new features as a media extender, so I assume the feature-set remains the same as the S3 models.

I actually don't own a TiVo currently, so I can't really say with any authority what 'same as S3 models' actually means . To my knowledge though, it cannot stream video directly. The best it can do is copy video from your PC/Mac for playback, and only if it is in the right codec. I believe there are some apps available that allow some level of streaming from a PC, but I doubt the experience will be as good as using something dedicated to media streaming.

Also, I don't believe you can record directly to a networked HDD. You can transfer recordings to a PC/Mac, but only if it isn't copy-protected. You'd have to look up some info to find out what is copy-protected by your service provider. Premium content (HBO, etc.) is almost always protected, but much of the other content is at the discretion of the provider. Some cable companies don't copy-protect a ton of things, others lock pretty much everything.

Folks,

Looking at post one, it says that the new boxes will have optional wireless N support. But on TiVo.com, I'm only seeing a wireless G adapter offered.

Has it been announced that TiVo will be comming out with an N adapter? Or will it be possible to use other N adapters to connect to an N network?

It's coming

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/06/t...irs-up-imagin/

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2009-11/...-access-point/

Excellent. I figured it had to be - wouldn't make much sense to stick with G.

But I'm surprised it hasn't made the TiVo site yet - they're still only showing the G, and saying it's intended for use with the Premiere...

That could put a dent in Moxi if this materializes soon. HD streaming remains the huge advantage of Moxi over Tivo.

My father called TiVo since he's interested in getting a Premiere in addition to their series 2. They told him that there would be interference with the remotes and performing functions on one would still send signals to the other. Can we get some official info from TiVo about multiple units (Premier and additional Premier/HD/series 2 or 3) in the same room?

:shrug: I can transfer HD just fine over my G adapter. Faster than real time.

Two possible workarounds might be:
Use a Harmony remote programmed with different commands for Tivo 1 and 2.

Put the Series 2 in the bedroom and when wanting to view the series 2 from the Premiere location, just transfer. Series 2 files will probably transfer fast enough that they can be watched "on the fly".

Bob

Hopefully the feature is on the keyboard. As bfdtv noted there is no switch on the remote to choose between Tivos.

Assuming it works the way S3 Tivo's do, you can use PyTivo on your PC/Mac and it does an excellent job of both transfering and/or streaming (ok streaming is technically handled by a program called Streambaby, but, at least on the mac side of things, they're both packaged up into one easy to use app) to the Tivo (even does on the fly conversion of videos so you can transfer things the Tivo can't play nativly like .mkv's).

And if you have RCN as your cable provider, you will have to go through RCN to get the Tivo with the VOD functionality.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23913249-

But a lot of people can't transfer a bunch of their stuff on Tivos, because all the channels are copy-protected on their cable system. That's why streaming is so much better - anything can be streamed from the Moxi to another Moxi or extender.
Same for Windows 7 Media Center Cablecard solutions. The wireless adapter stuff is beside the point.

But that's not why he was saying it. He was talking about whether the S3 hardware would be CAPABLE of streaming.

Anyone know if they will offer some sort of financing for these things?

Best Buy does
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12125&type=page&fCode=14

this

They shouldn't be doing that unless they have true streaming capability. If all my TiVos look like one tiVo, then I will expect to be able to stream a title and instantly go to any point in the recording. With the current S3 units they easily transfer HD in much faster than realtime, but you can't skip to a point later in the program until the entire show has been transferred.