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post #511 of 1944
Lol.

Ok so watching a little bit of tv right now. Lets just say the glowing review continues. I have never heard cable hbo dd sound as crisp and full. Usually it's pretty crappy sounding compared to bluray. But watching green lantern now is pretty awesome. In just a few hours I will be cranking it up (once the wife which is"due for an upgrade" haha goes to work)

But that permasmile is on !
post #512 of 1944
Thanks for the info and stuff. I just looked at Adcom site and boy those are expensive. I guess you get a lot for the money with Emotiva.

Brian, come on now. You're making the wait even harder. I ordered my amp Thursday, shipped Friday I think. Fed Ex says eta Thursday. A whole weeeeeeek!!!!!! Grrrrr. I won't be getting much sleep for a while, grrrrr. I tried to speed up shipping but Emotiva doesn't have any options grrr.
post #513 of 1944
I am waiting just like you buggs. Only difference is I have my amp, just waiting on the Integra to ship. I am excited to get everything.
post #514 of 1944
Been listening to my new XPA5 for about a week now. So far have been pretty pleased. It definitely has more nuts than the Sherwood R972 at louder volumes. Not sure I can tell that much of a difference between it an an old Sony 777ES receiver. I'm not thrilled with the midbass from my system even with full tower speakers but I think that moving to basement => carpet over concrete has really killed bass response.

Overall, it's been a decent improvement. I notice a lot more channel separation with more power but it influences the soundstage negatively since I sit off center and the L/R channels seem more localized. Will have to fiddle with Trinnov again to see what can be done. I had been wanting to get something with more power and never have to replace the amp again but at 300X5 it gets stupid loud when asked so I may just hold on to this, well... forever smile.gif
post #515 of 1944
For every Channel that you are connecting (for example, Front), you have 2 RCA plugs (Red and White) and XPA-5 has only one RCA plug. I was trying to understand how this works. Most of the interconnects that were recommended were the Single RCA connector on both sides. So, on AVR preout, should i connect the white RCA or red RCA? How does this work?
post #516 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

For every Channel that you are connecting (for example, Front), you have 2 RCA plugs (Red and White) and XPA-5 has only one RCA plug. I was trying to understand how this works. Most of the interconnects that were recommended were the Single RCA connector on both sides. So, on AVR preout, should i connect the white RCA or red RCA? How does this work?

Here is how it works:

You use single RCA interconnects and connect them at the back of you AVR preout (one for the right front channel, one for the left front channel, etc.). Then you connect the other end of the RCA interconnect to the each of the XPA-5 RCA inputs.

So, you have the AVR sending the audio signals to the XPA-5.

Next step, you need to run the speaker wires from the XPA-5 to each speaker. You hook first the speaker wire to your XPA-5 positive and negative (red/black) and the other end to your speaker's posts (red/black).

I hope this helps!
post #517 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

For every Channel that you are connecting (for example, Front), you have 2 RCA plugs (Red and White) and XPA-5 has only one RCA plug. I was trying to understand how this works. Most of the interconnects that were recommended were the Single RCA connector on both sides. So, on AVR preout, should i connect the white RCA or red RCA? How does this work?

Does your AVR have preouts? That is where you would connect the RCA interconnect from the receiver to the amp. I don't know if you will be able to get full sound connecting one RCA from your red or white connector to the amp.
post #518 of 1944
I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5
post #519 of 1944
I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5
post #520 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

Have you checked this thread out?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422205/official-pioneer-sc-68-67-thread

This will be your best bet to get your answer. I am trying to see how you would hook it up without preouts, but I am not sure if you need an additional RCA adapter or what you would use if you don't just put the interconnect in one of the two rca jacks.

Edit: Looking at your user manual, you have preouts. You should just hook your LF interconnect to the white input on the SC-68. RF to the red input and so on for the center and rears. Hope that helps and I am pretty sure I am right.
Edited by flashman03 - 1/12/13 at 3:42pm
post #521 of 1944
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Oh, so you are upgrading wife too, before amps......nice move. tongue.gif

Sorry, I just can't resist!!!!

Hilarious!
post #522 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

Yes. Most AVR puts the preamp outs in L/R ( White/Red ) pairs. Most amplifiers have a lot of distance between the inputs because of the size of the amplifier blades. The Emotiva amps are laid out as Left Surround, Left, Center, Right, Right Surround. There is going to be a lot of distance between the two outer channels which means you would need a stereo RCA cable that can be split easily at one end. Most people buy dedicated interconnects because they don't want to have split stereo cable pairs OR want to color-code EACH individual cable. There really isn't a difference in physical design of a preamp interconnect and a normal stereo RCA cable. Those Monoprice Premium RCA cables look like they can be easily split by removing the rubber strip at each end and pulled apart.
post #523 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

The SC-68 has a red and white RCA pre-amp output plug. You use a single RCA from the red to go to your left speaker. You then take a single RCA to the white and run it to your other speaker. You can do this with your fronts, rear surround and center for a total of 5 channels. I'm not sure if you really want to use your receiver to drive your subs though.
post #524 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

You need a "Y" adapter with 2 female on 1 end and a male on the other. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Monster+Cable+-+Male-to-Female+Adapter/7867828.p?id=1158316752168&skuId=7867828&st=y%20cable&cp=1&lp=9

Just curious as to why you want left and right going to a single speaker.
post #525 of 1944
No need for a "Y adapter," the suggestion you do is ignorant.
post #526 of 1944
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

No need for a "Y adapter," the suggestion you do is ignorant.



????? How do you connect two RCA's to a single input?
post #527 of 1944
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Originally Posted by jevans64 View Post

Yes. Most AVR puts the preamp outs in L/R ( White/Red ) pairs. Most amplifiers have a lot of distance between the inputs because of the size of the amplifier blades. The Emotiva amps are laid out as Left Surround, Left, Center, Right, Right Surround. There is going to be a lot of distance between the two outer channels which means you would need a stereo RCA cable that can be split easily at one end. Most people buy dedicated interconnects because they don't want to have split stereo cable pairs OR want to color-code EACH individual cable. There really isn't a difference in physical design of a preamp interconnect and a normal stereo RCA cable. Those Monoprice Premium RCA cables look like they can be easily split by removing the rubber strip at each end and pulled apart.

+1
As this post states, no Y adapter is needed, just a single cable for each channel going to the appropriate inputs of the amplifier.
post #528 of 1944
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

+1
As this post states, no Y adapter is needed, just a single cable for each channel going to the appropriate inputs of the amplifier.

OK genius. Even you would know that.
I answered the original question and asked why two channels would be fed to one.
post #529 of 1944
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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 View Post

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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

+1
As this post states, no Y adapter is needed, just a single cable for each channel going to the appropriate inputs of the amplifier.

OK genius. Even you would know that.
I answered the original question and asked why two channels would be fed to one.

 

You need to understand the way Pioneer label their preouts - have a look at the back of a Pioneer unit in an online manual if you want to know. Your suggestion is wrong I am afraid and the OP has been given good advice above about how to connect the preout marked red, the preout marked white etc. 

 

I think an apology to Theresa is in order, Mudcat as she is definitely the 'genius' in this instance and you are, well, wrong ;)

post #530 of 1944
I apologize to Mudcat. My comment had an arrogant tone.
post #531 of 1944
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

I apologize to Mudcat. My comment had an arrogant tone.

 

A gracious response. One down, one to go.... :)

post #532 of 1944
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

You need to understand the way Pioneer label their preouts - have a look at the back of a Pioneer unit in an online manual if you want to know. Your suggestion is wrong I am afraid and the OP has been given good advice above about how to connect the preout marked red, the preout marked white etc. 

I think an apology to Theresa is in order, Mudcat as she is definitely the 'genius' in this instance and you are, well, wrong wink.gif

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I apologize to Mudcat. My comment had an arrogant tone.

Keith,
Pioneer is like other pre outs. Did you read my entire answer? As I previously stated, I answered the question and then asked why he wanted two channels fed to a single channel. Theresa did not answer the question. How does that make her a genius. Not to be rude, however, you should read thoroughly before attempting to be the hero.

Thanks Theresa. I apologize for my off the wall response also. Now that you have me off your ignore list you can up your post count. smile.gif

I wonder why syendluri will not use the XPA to drive the center. Maybe I overlooked something.
post #533 of 1944
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Originally Posted by syendluri View Post

I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

When you're looking at the pre-amp outputs, each plug represents one channel. The white ones are left and the red ones are right. So, when you're looking at the ones labelled "front", the white one is the left front (which you would connect, using a single cable, to the left front input on the XPA-5), and the red one is the right front channel (which you would connect, using a single cable, to the right front input on the XPA-5).
post #534 of 1944
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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 View Post

 
Keith,
Pioneer is like other pre outs. Did you read my entire answer? As I previously stated, I answered the question and then asked why he wanted two channels fed to a single channel. Theresa did not answer the question. How does that make her a genius. Not to be rude, however, you should read thoroughly before attempting to be the hero.
 

 

tboe77 has the right answer Mudcat. You had the wrong answer unfortunately. No splitter is needed. Pioneer label their preouts in a different way to many other AVR manufacturers, and it often causes confusion. The OP does NOT want to connect two channels to a single channel - he wants to use his preouts and the answer you gave him was, unfortunately, wrong. There's no point arguing it - tboe77 is right, Mudcat45 isn't on this occasion.

post #535 of 1944
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Originally Posted by Vaison View Post

The SC-68 has a red and white RCA pre-amp output plug. You use a single RCA from the red to go to your left speaker. You then take a single RCA to the white and run it to your other speaker. You can do this with your fronts, rear surround and center for a total of 5 channels. I'm not sure if you really want to use your receiver to drive your subs though.

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

tboe77 has the right answer Mudcat. You had the wrong answer unfortunately. No splitter is needed. Pioneer label their preouts in a different way to many other AVR manufacturers, and it often causes confusion. The OP does NOT want to connect two channels to a single channel - he wants to use his preouts and the answer you gave him was, unfortunately, wrong. There's no point arguing it - tboe77 is right, Mudcat45 isn't on this occasion.

Keith, why didn't you correct the post above yours rather than pissing in the wind with my correct answer to the question?
Perhaps you thought the RCA should connect to the speaker.

No, Pioneer is not so different from other pre out labeling. Well, maybe to those who can't comprehend.
post #536 of 1944
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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 View Post

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Originally Posted by Vaison View Post

The SC-68 has a red and white RCA pre-amp output plug. You use a single RCA from the red to go to your left speaker. You then take a single RCA to the white and run it to your other speaker. You can do this with your fronts, rear surround and center for a total of 5 channels. I'm not sure if you really want to use your receiver to drive your subs though.

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

tboe77 has the right answer Mudcat. You had the wrong answer unfortunately. No splitter is needed. Pioneer label their preouts in a different way to many other AVR manufacturers, and it often causes confusion. The OP does NOT want to connect two channels to a single channel - he wants to use his preouts and the answer you gave him was, unfortunately, wrong. There's no point arguing it - tboe77 is right, Mudcat45 isn't on this occasion.

Keith, why didn't you correct the post above yours rather than pissing in the wind with my correct answer to the question?
Perhaps you thought the RCA should connect to the speaker.

No, Pioneer is not so different from other pre out labeling. Well, maybe to those who can't comprehend.

 

It is not correct to say the OP needs an RCA splitter to connect the preamp outputs to the power amp inputs.

post #537 of 1944
Funny how I answered his question correctly 8 hours before all of this nonsense started.
post #538 of 1944
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Funny how I answered his question correctly 8 hours before all of this nonsense started.

So did two others, including me.

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post #539 of 1944
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Originally Posted by Vaison View Post

Funny how I answered his question correctly 8 hours before all of this nonsense started.

It is funnier that you think your answer is correct.
post #540 of 1944
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

It is not correct to say the OP needs an RCA splitter to connect the preamp outputs to the power amp inputs.


I never said it should be done that way. In fact I asked why it would.

Still can't understand why you failed to respond to the incorrect answer I referenced. Oh, almost forgot about your trolling.
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