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post #241 of 2803
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Originally Posted by Dennis Oblow View Post

The pn63c550 and 590 are now available I revieved my c590 last week

No buzz?
post #242 of 2803
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Originally Posted by XciteMe83 View Post

Can somebody tell me if the C590 is worth the extra $200 from the C550?

According to Samsung, the 590 adds a Cinema Smooth and Crystal HD Engine...

My question to you guys is, are these legit features worth paying $$$ for, or are they manufacture spin, like the way dynamic contrast ratios are?

Please...

It is no wonder the threads balloon out if size when the same questions get asked over and over again, did you search or read any of this thread before asking?

This thread is only 9 pages long, it is well worth the $200 to read it from the beginning before asking the above question...

This thread is a even shorter but definitely answers your question! http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175569
post #243 of 2803
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

It is no wonder the threads balloon out if size when the same questions get asked over and over again, did you search or read any of this thread before asking?

This thread is only 9 pages long, it is well worth the $200 to read it from the beginning before asking the above question...

This thread is a even shorter but definitely answers your question! http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175569

What about for me? I have the c550, and can get the c6500, but it costs almost $400 more which is a lot to me. Let's say I did get the c6500, will there be any really noticeable differences in picture quality. How does Crystal full HD engine change picture quality, so does it improve clarity, color, blacks, etc. I want to get the c6500, but want to know if it really is worth the money($400). I'm really nervous of returning the c550 and getting the c6500, and end up seeing there is not much difference from the c550.
Thanks.
post #244 of 2803
Well, I replaced mp pn50c550 that was having the weird strobe effect when using AllShare and I'm happy to say that the replacement is working great. Now I'll just need to start saving to get a Bluray player to go with it.
post #245 of 2803
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Originally Posted by ThanewGuy View Post

What about for me? I have the c550, and can get the c6500, but it costs almost $400 more which is a lot to me. Let's say I did get the c6500, will there be any really noticeable differences in picture quality. How does Crystal full HD engine change picture quality, so does it improve clarity, color, blacks, etc. I want to get the c6500, but want to know if it really is worth the money($400). I'm really nervous of returning the c550 and getting the c6500, and end up seeing there is not much difference from the c550.
Thanks.

Well, here I go, I'll give MY opinion on the differences I saw between the C6500 and the C550 (both 58" models)... I couldn't see much, seriously these two sets were about 10' apart, playing the same HDTV feed and they looked pretty much the same. When I saw this my mind was made up, if I have to compare two set SXS and LOOK for something different then to me it wouldn't be worth and extra $400.

Now that you have your C550 at home is it bad?, does it make you wish you had something else?, I bet not...

As for the Crystal HD Engine, it's effects when called upon are there, but I would say more in the order of subtle rather then earth shaking. Some may say they cannot live without it, but that would be a decision you would have to weigh based on the cost. With that in mind take a look at this thread, well worth the read if you are thinking about this feature. I promise, you will find it interesting!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175569
post #246 of 2803
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Well, here I go, I'll give MY opinion on the differences I saw between the C6500 and the C550 (both 58" models)... I couldn't see much, seriously these two sets were about 10' apart, playing the same HDTV feed and they looked pretty much the same. When I saw this my mind was made up, if I have to compare two set SXS and LOOK for something different then to me it wouldn't be worth and extra $400.

Thanks Al! Your comment sealed the deal for me. I went ahead and bought the PN58C550, I'll be receiving it next Saturday!

I REALLY hope I don't get a buzzer....
post #247 of 2803
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Originally Posted by indondiver View Post

Thanks Al! Your comment sealed the deal for me. I went ahead and bought the PN58C550, I'll be receiving it next Saturday!

I REALLY hope I don't get a buzzer....

Cool! My wife and I watched some more HD programs tonight and the picture was awesome, Australian Geographic in Queensland, simply amazing scenery.

As for buzz, check out this thread, at this point 2/3 of the respondents report very faint or no buzz at all... My 17 year old can hear things I cannot, and she says 'no buzz'

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1248652
post #248 of 2803
Just an update on my C540. The buzzing is worse than I first thought It's pretty bad and the retailer is not interested in exchanging my set. Might sell it.

Also, last night I watched Leap Year (wife's choice) and about half way through the movie I started noticing a rainbow effect on peoples faces, particularily during close ups. I looked up disc reviews and couldn't find anything but good things to say about the disc (other than that the movie sucked). Anyone think this could be my set? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
post #249 of 2803
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

Just an update on my C540. The buzzing is worse than I first thought It's pretty bad and the retailer is not interested in exchanging my set. Might sell it..

Interesting response from the retailer, how long have you had it? Have you checked to verify that the buzz isn't from the cable or another piece of equipment?

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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

I voted horrible, but mine is a C540 if that changes anything. I brought back a buzzing B530 and upgraded to the C540 and it got worse. I'm 27 and sitting back 10'. Easily heard over dialogue and even light ambience sound. Only covered up with a lot of noise I don't think the retailer is interested in exchanging me another one

From what you said in the thread about buzzing and returning the B530 for that as well, makes me wonder if it is being introduced?

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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

Also, last night I watched Leap Year (wife's choice) and about half way through the movie I started noticing a rainbow effect on peoples faces, particularily during close ups. I looked up disc reviews and couldn't find anything but good things to say about the disc (other than that the movie sucked). Anyone think this could be my set? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Regarding the rainbow, do you see it on other movies, was this a DVD or BD, component or HDMI connection?

I haven't seen any rainbow effect on faces, do you have a different TV to playback the movie on. Sometimes something we see on a bigger screen is there on others but we just didn't notice before.
post #250 of 2803
^^^

Well, the buzz wasn't on my Samsung LCD of the exact same setup. And my buzz matches all that has been said by others in the buzz thread. I really don't think it's me, but rather the TV. I plan on trying some things like insulating the back. I'll probably sell it The retailer wanted me to have it fixed by Samsung on my B530 but when Samsung didn't come through he gave me this for an extra $50. That was 2 months after I bought the B530 and he gave me a smokin' deal on the B530 already. I would even feel bad twisting his arm. It's Samsungs screw up on these things. If I could, I would take my B530 back and give up my $50, and I just might ask for it. It's really really bad.

Leap Year was a BD that my wife rented so I haven't seen it on a smaller screen before. It was quite obvious I though. Skins looked blue and green. Other BDs seem fine but I've only got about 15 hours on the set. I'll tinker some more tonight. I haven't noticed it otherwise, but all the pro reviews on the disc did NOT notice this and it was dead obvious to me

EDIT - Al, just noticed you're from Victoria. Same here man. If you wanna here this thing buzz, come on over :P I'd love your opinion.
post #251 of 2803
Couple quick questions on the PN58C550:

1. Does the PN58C550 support 24p from blu ray playback? I know the B does.

2. Does enabling cinema smooth really make a big difference?

3. Anyone have any settings up yet?

4. Anyone have pictures/unboxing? Thanks.
post #252 of 2803
Tried the b550 settings on the c550, not the same. Took a while to get it set but now this c550 is terrific. No hum, no green dots, couldn't ask for better.
post #253 of 2803
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Originally Posted by bobbee25 View Post

Tried the b550 settings on the c550, not the same. Took a while to get it set but now this c550 is terrific. No hum, no green dots, couldn't ask for better.

Hey, would you mind posting your settings?? I'd like to compare them to what I have calibrated on my set. Thanks.
post #254 of 2803
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Originally Posted by gonzolious View Post

Hey, would you mind posting your settings?? I'd like to compare them to what I have calibrated on my set. Thanks.

+1 Would be much appreciated.
post #255 of 2803
+2

I posted mine a page or so back, but I like playing around to see if there's something I like better.
post #256 of 2803
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Originally Posted by gonzolious View Post

Hey, would you mind posting your settings?? I'd like to compare them to what I have calibrated on my set. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyReets View Post

+1 Would be much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by wildecard View Post

+2

I posted mine a page or so back, but I like playing around to see if there's something I like better.

Hey guys, you of course know that the C590 is very similar to our C550 so if you are interested take a look at this thead...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1243570
post #257 of 2803
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Originally Posted by FuzzyReets View Post

Couple quick questions on the PN58C550:

1. Does the PN58C550 support 24p from blu ray playback? I know the B does.

Yes it does support 24p from bluray playback.
post #258 of 2803
Hey, Sherwood, not a big fan of the settings posted in that thread, but thanks for the heads up anyway. . . I'd still like to know what settings bobbee25 has come up with!!
post #259 of 2803
Tried to send you this:

Well, I haven't even registered the TV yet, so I think it's transferable

What do you mean verify that it can be fixed before "removing" the TV. I'm afraid I really got the run around with the last TV. One tech said it's normal. The next said it wasn't and took it for a month! It ended up in the first techs hands and he tried a few things and then said it's normal again

I regret this whole thing. Believe me, if you could hear it, you would know it's not normal. And by the way, the tech who said it was normal was at least 60 and the other much younger, hmm.
post #260 of 2803
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

Tried to send you this:

Well, I haven't even registered the TV yet, so I think it's transferable

What do you mean verify that it can be fixed before "removing" the TV. I'm afraid I really got the run around with the last TV. One tech said it's normal. The next said it wasn't and took it for a month! It ended up in the first techs hands and he tried a few things and then said it's normal again

I regret this whole thing. Believe me, if you could hear it, you would know it's not normal. And by the way, the tech who said it was normal was at least 60 and the other much younger, hmm.

I cleared out the PM box....

Yeah, I understand what you mean about the techs, if they 'think' that it is normal then you are done, no way to change their minds.

This whole buzz issue is a real blemish on these sets, some must be better then others because there are those that have had them replaced because of this and the new set is OK.

After what you have been through I consider myself lucky!
post #261 of 2803
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Originally Posted by Al Sherwood View Post

Well, here I go, I'll give MY opinion on the differences I saw between the C6500 and the C550 (both 58" models)... I couldn't see much, seriously these two sets were about 10' apart, playing the same HDTV feed and they looked pretty much the same. When I saw this my mind was made up, if I have to compare two set SXS and LOOK for something different then to me it wouldn't be worth and extra $400.

Now that you have your C550 at home is it bad?, does it make you wish you had something else?, I bet not...

As for the Crystal HD Engine, it's effects when called upon are there, but I would say more in the order of subtle rather then earth shaking. Some may say they cannot live without it, but that would be a decision you would have to weigh based on the cost. With that in mind take a look at this thread, well worth the read if you are thinking about this feature. I promise, you will find it interesting!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175569

Thanks for your reply Al. I wanted to get the c6500 mostly because of crystal full HD engine because I herd it improves picture quality, especially when watching SD channels. I think the c550 has great picture quality, but when I watch TV, I feel like the picture is not giving enough detail(even on HD channels). Than again channels aren't the best to judge on, but I had an LCD before this TV and seemed to give out more details in picture but din't like the fact that there was a bunch of motion blur, jerky, so I returned it to get a plasma. I was hoping crystal full HD engine would help giving of better detail in picture, but I don't know what to do. I have little time to decide whether or not to return the TV, and I haven't even watched blu reay on this TV. Can't find a Ps3 anywhere
But what does crystal full HD engine really do? Do you think it will help give a better, crisper,clearer picture? Better picture quality over all? I read the thread, but couldn't seem to get an answer to this.
Thank you.
post #262 of 2803
Well, after reading 9 pages of --very useful-- comments within this thread, I've only discovered one problem with my set that I've seen mentioned a few times in this thread.

I've owned the set for about 3 weeks and all has been beautiful until a few days ago -- after watching "Book of Eli" via USB/Media Player the screen started to strobe with weird colors. Switching the source of signal did nothing to correct it and after a couple of minutes, I turned the set off and on and that cleared the problem up.

At the time I was a bit worried, but I thought maybe it was just a glitch, considering the oddly colored, very contrasty nature of the film -- the movie constantly switches from very bright to very dark scenes.

But in the days since, the strobe effect has happened at least 2 more times. It always happens after using Media Player and today it occurred when one .avi completed -- the screen went blank and when I switched to a different source, I heard sound but no picture. When I switched back to media player I got no picture nor sound and when switching, once again to another source, I saw nothing -- not even the source menu. I had to shut it down and restart the tv and all was normal again.

So now, I'm getting a bit concerned. I have a Wii, a standard DVD player (Philips) and a USB hard drive on one USB connection (rear) and a USB thumb drive on the other (side). No cable box, just an antenna for OTA digital signals.

I'm hoping it's just a firmware issue and will be addressed in the near future (the media player could definitely use a few tweaks, IMO).

thinking, maybe I should start a dedicated thread for this issue to see how many people have had this problem... judging by this thread, it's just a few people, but then again -- I had to read a lot of posts before I came across the others that had experienced the same problem.

Any thoughts would be appreciated...
post #263 of 2803
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Originally Posted by ThanewGuy View Post

Thanks for your reply Al. I wanted to get the c6500 mostly because of crystal full HD engine because I herd it improves picture quality, especially when watching SD channels. I think the c550 has great picture quality, but when I watch TV, I feel like the picture is not giving enough detail(even on HD channels). Than again channels aren't the best to judge on, but I had an LCD before this TV and seemed to give out more details in picture but din't like the fact that there was a bunch of motion blur, jerky, so I returned it to get a plasma. I was hoping crystal full HD engine would help giving of better detail in picture, but I don't know what to do. I have little time to decide whether or not to return the TV, and I haven't even watched blu reay on this TV. Can't find a Ps3 anywhere
But what does crystal full HD engine really do? Do you think it will help give a better, crisper,clearer picture? Better picture quality over all? I read the thread, but couldn't seem to get an answer to this.
Thank you.

As for C6500, on Samsung's US site it deoesn't even mention that it has Crystal Full HD Engine (CFHD)? Regarding CFHD, it is a feature found on the C590 series, possibly included in the hardware of the C550 but enabled only on particular models. Samsungs website says that it improves the picture in an overall way but it is vague on exactly how it does this.

For the moment focusing only on CFHD, it should help the picture quality but in an incremental sense only, I don't think that it take an un acceptable image and make it the best you have seen.

At this point I wouldn't return a TV just to get it, a proper adjustment of the user controls will likely net a better improvement in picture then just turning on CFHD. ISF calibrators have been proving this for years, they take ordinary or poor performing set and make adjustments to them that provide incredible pictures.

Take a look at this review of a PN58B650, it doesn't even mention CFHD and in the end the opinion of the reviewer was that the Samsung set was probably the most accurate and pleasing set available (assuming of course the 2010 are the same or better then the outgoing 2009 models!

Samsung PN58B650
post #264 of 2803
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Originally Posted by ThanewGuy View Post

Thanks for your reply Al. I wanted to get the c6500 mostly because of crystal full HD engine because I herd it improves picture quality, especially when watching SD channels. I think the c550 has great picture quality, but when I watch TV, I feel like the picture is not giving enough detail(even on HD channels). Than again channels aren't the best to judge on, but I had an LCD before this TV and seemed to give out more details in picture but din't like the fact that there was a bunch of motion blur, jerky, so I returned it to get a plasma. I was hoping crystal full HD engine would help giving of better detail in picture, but I don't know what to do. I have little time to decide whether or not to return the TV, and I haven't even watched blu reay on this TV. Can't find a Ps3 anywhere
But what does crystal full HD engine really do? Do you think it will help give a better, crisper,clearer picture? Better picture quality over all? I read the thread, but couldn't seem to get an answer to this.
Thank you.

Hey TheNewGuy,

How many hours do you have on your TV? I will tell you I was in what I think is the same boat you are in right now. I was disappointed, looking for more, etc. It came with time though. The TV broke in and now I am so happy that I kept it. I was going to return it at one point but now I absolutely love it. It just needed time to break in I think. It looks much different than it did when I first got it I can tell you that. Mine is the PN58B550. Just something to think about. Thought I'd share my experience as well.
post #265 of 2803
Ok I love this tv but I have some problems in my second week with the tv. I upgraded from the LN46a650 and the picture is much better. As I break it in I notice the buzz is decreasing. But I have a dead pixel for sure and I have floating blacks. The Floating blacks are pretty minor compared to what I have seen from panasonics but it is still there on the picture at the very most bothersom some times with in ten minutes of last occurance. I might regret that it could some how have been caused when I changed the model to c590 in the service menu. While the cinema mode feature was working correctly and I believe it took care of my floating blacks because the picture had brighten blacks when in cinema mode which was noticably smoother and the blacks were smoother in a brightened way. I changed back to c550 in the menu because I noticed when out of cinema mode (which was not my prefered because of weaker blacks) the picture handled 24p poorly than compared to original c550 picture. Really confused on some of these things because I have read other people changed models back and forth with no problems and also because I have not heard one report of floating blacks on this tv yet. If any one has any input please let me know, even if you think it might be a feature in the settings that is causing the floating blacks? (again not happening alot just a flucuating of the blacks for about four seconds and then not again until ten or twenty minutes later)
post #266 of 2803
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Originally Posted by laker083234 View Post

Ok I love this tv but I have some problems in my second week with the tv. I upgraded from the LN46a650 and the picture is much better. As I break it in I notice the buzz is decreasing. But I have a dead pixel for sure and I have floating blacks. The Floating blacks are pretty minor compared to what I have seen from panasonics but it is still there on the picture at the very most bothersom some times with in ten minutes of last occurance. I might regret that it could some how have been caused when I changed the model to c590 in the service menu. While the cinema mode feature was working correctly and I believe it took care of my floating blacks because the picture had brighten blacks when in cinema mode which was noticably smoother and the blacks were smoother in a brightened way. I changed back to c550 in the menu because I noticed when out of cinema mode (which was not my prefered because of weaker blacks) the picture handled 24p poorly than compared to original c550 picture. Really confused on some of these things because I have read other people changed models back and forth with no problems and also because I have not heard one report of floating blacks on this tv yet. If any one has any input please let me know, even if you think it might be a feature in the settings that is causing the floating blacks? (again not happening alot just a flucuating of the blacks for about four seconds and then not again until ten or twenty minutes later)

Might be a dumb question but, what are floating blacks?
post #267 of 2803
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Originally Posted by lunaticprophet View Post

Well, after reading 9 pages of --very useful-- comments within this thread, I've only discovered one problem with my set that I've seen mentioned a few times in this thread.

I've owned the set for about 3 weeks and all has been beautiful until a few days ago -- after watching "Book of Eli" via USB/Media Player the screen started to strobe with weird colors. Switching the source of signal did nothing to correct it and after a couple of minutes, I turned the set off and on and that cleared the problem up.

At the time I was a bit worried, but I thought maybe it was just a glitch, considering the oddly colored, very contrasty nature of the film -- the movie constantly switches from very bright to very dark scenes.

But in the days since, the strobe effect has happened at least 2 more times. It always happens after using Media Player and today it occurred when one .avi completed -- the screen went blank and when I switched to a different source, I heard sound but no picture. When I switched back to media player I got no picture nor sound and when switching, once again to another source, I saw nothing -- not even the source menu. I had to shut it down and restart the tv and all was normal again.

So now, I'm getting a bit concerned. I have a Wii, a standard DVD player (Philips) and a USB hard drive on one USB connection (rear) and a USB thumb drive on the other (side). No cable box, just an antenna for OTA digital signals.

I'm hoping it's just a firmware issue and will be addressed in the near future (the media player could definitely use a few tweaks, IMO).

thinking, maybe I should start a dedicated thread for this issue to see how many people have had this problem... judging by this thread, it's just a few people, but then again -- I had to read a lot of posts before I came across the others that had experienced the same problem.

Any thoughts would be appreciated...

I was the one that had the inital issue with the "Strobe Effect". To the best of my knowledge I was the only one to have the issue (at least until your post). It sounds like the only main difference in our issues is that when it happened to me the screen never went black. Switching inputs never fixed it, only powering the TV off. One time it even locked up to where I could't switch inputs or power it off with either the remote or the button on the TV. I had to actually unplug it. The was the final straw for me. I exchanged the TV at Best Buy for another of the same model. I did take a flash drive to Best Buy to see if I could replicate the issue on another TV there and I couldn't. The exchange works great and I've had no issues with it. I also thought it was a firmware issue, but being as it was just me I opted to exchange it. I would recommend you do the same if that is possible.
post #268 of 2803
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Originally Posted by wildecard View Post

I was the one that had the inital issue with the "Strobe Effect". To the best of my knowledge I was the only one to have the issue (at least until your post). It sounds like the only main difference in our issues is that when it happened to me the screen never went black. Switching inputs never fixed it, only powering the TV off. One time it even locked up to where I could't switch inputs or power it off with either the remote or the button on the TV. I had to actually unplug it. The was the final straw for me. I exchanged the TV at Best Buy for another of the same model. I did take a flash drive to Best Buy to see if I could replicate the issue on another TV there and I couldn't. The exchange works great and I've had no issues with it. I also thought it was a firmware issue, but being as it was just me I opted to exchange it. I would recommend you do the same if that is possible.

Not to be rude or anything, but I just want to throw my 2 cents in, and again, not meant to annoy but is this something you really want to use and really think is going to work well? Seems like it is one of those things that works if you are using the perfect file with the perfect everything and then it will work. Doesn't really come off as something that will work well just looking at it. Don't you have a better way to play this stuff other than using this USB Media Player stuff? Sounds like garbage to me. Just my opinion. Put it on a USB drive and run it from your Xbox or PS3. Probably less headaches.
post #269 of 2803
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Originally Posted by FuzzyReets View Post

Not to be rude or anything, but I just want to throw my 2 cents in, and again, not meant to annoy but is this something you really want to use and really think is going to work well? Seems like it is one of those things that works if you are using the perfect file with the perfect everything and then it will work. Doesn't really come off as something that will work well just looking at it. Don't you have a better way to play this stuff other than using this USB Media Player stuff? Sounds like garbage to me. Just my opinion. Put it on a USB drive and run it from your Xbox or PS3. Probably less headaches.

Actually, since I swapped the TV out it's worked great. AllShare was one of my main reasons for deciding on this TV. I haven't has ANY issues with any of my files or anything playing through AllShare. To me personally it is much easier than having to go and grab the XBox from the TV in my backroom (where the kids usually have it) and bringing it out and hooking it up in the living room just so when I'm done watching my media it has to be moved back for the kids to use again. Also my wife likes it. She has it pretty much figured out. (She wouldn't even try with the XBox).
post #270 of 2803
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Originally Posted by wildecard View Post

Actually, since I swapped the TV out it's worked great. AllShare was one of my main reasons for deciding on this TV. I haven't has ANY issues with any of my files or anything playing through AllShare. To me personally it is much easier than having to go and grab the XBox from the TV in my backroom (where the kids usually have it) and bringing it out and hooking it up in the living room just so when I'm done watching my media it has to be moved back for the kids to use again. Also my wife likes it. She has it pretty much figured out. (She wouldn't even try with the XBox).

AllShare was one of my reasons for this TV as well, and yes in answer to FuzzyReets question, I do expect it to work.

So wildecard, what kind of files do you play back when it comes to video? MKV's, Xvid's and with which audio?

I and others have been experiencing audio/video sync issues when playing back files with AllShare, have you noticed this?
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