Originally Posted by OrangeAV
Welcome back to HX701.
I remeber reading your posts before making my purchase.
If you tried other sony models (i.e. EX500, EX700) could you share your experience with us.
I tried EX500 and it was a very good TV with deep black but end it up keeping HX due to great PQ, more features and looks of the HX701.
Please keep posting your findings it was and will be very helpful for us.
Thanks for the feedback but if I am keeping this tv, which is really possible as I am getting tired of searching, I might not have that much to report back. I considered the Ex500 as well, but could never get a test with my console regarding input lag. The one time I brought my console to my local best buy to test the ex500 to see if it was really "that bad", I could never find in the menu out to set the TV in game mode (or game scene). Unfortunately, they didn't had the remote for the TV so I could never really tested it.
Regarding clouding, it seem some people are reporting some on the Ex500 series so I am thinking it's not limited to the HX701 with Sony regarding their 2010 CCFL model.
When I bought my second HX701, I was at the store for a long time considering going back to the HX701 or going with a HX800 which was right next to it. Obviously, the thing that hit me was the better contrast on the HX800 (LED). They had a deal with the HX800 that gave the bluray player, 3d glasses and transmetter. In the end, taking the HX800 was about 1000$ more than getting the HX701. I ponder for about an hour in the store, looking at both and in the end, decided that 3D wasn't something I was about to use much anyway, so it came down to 1000$ difference for better contrast, I just couldn't justify it so I picked the HX701 and Sony's S370 bluray player and saved money (a lot).
In the end, after having bought 5 TV and returned 4 of them, I found out that I was really, but really picky about my TV. At the first sight of a flaw, I would return it. Thing is, when you get a bigger TV, you tend to notice those flaws more. I had a 32" before sitting at aout 8 feet from it. Now, even on HD feed, I notice the inperfection in the picture, but I don't think a lot of TV can compensate for it. In the end, Signal quality is king and it varies so much between sources. Some channel have better HD feed than others and sometimes, it varies from TV show to another one on the same channel. Sometimes, Adds on TV have breath taking PQ while the actual show is not on par. Buying a 3k$ TV will not make those sub par HD feed look any better.
the second thing I learn is that a TV that is great for movies, sports and videogames is almost impossible to find. You have to make sacrifices at some point. It was easy to find a TV which was good for 2 out of 3 but finding one that does great all 3 is something I have not found in my research. Currently, the HX701 is the compromise I found. Input lag is low enough that I am not noticing it when playing, even online. Motion blur is to an acceptable level to the point I'm not bugged with it when watching sports (I mostly watch hockey). Finally, CCFL are CCFL so the black, even if this Tv beats the hell out of my 5 years old samsing, remains CCFL weakness. it's not as black as a LED TV, but I'll live with it. As far as view angle goes, it mostly affect contrast, which is what seems to shift right away. Black aren't as dark as soon as you move 1 degree off center but I'll have to learn to live for that. If there isn't a dark scene on screen, you don't notice the shift in contrast that much when moving around.
So I got the TV for a good deal, 46" right need seem plenty big enough for me and maybe after I get used to this TV's size. Finally, even if it means nothing, This tv looks great when turned off. Monolith design wins point there.
history of my purchased this year:
1- Samsung C650 : returned because of horrible, horrible input lag even in game mode + bad flashlighting in both lower corners.
2- LG LD520 : Returned because of awfull, view angle. some of the worst I have ever seen. half the screen would shift with mere degrees off center. Unfortunately, it might have been a VA pannel
3- Sharp 700un : Returned because of bad motion blur issues. Not only in sports, but even in regular HDTV TV shows. Sports was simply horrible. too bad because the black were amazing on that TV.
4- First HX701: Returned because of bad clouding and poor view angle.
5- Second HX701: Repurchased months later at a much lower price than original bought which makes the view angle issue a lot less acceptable to digest. Clouding not as bad as first unit and even situational. not noticable unless dark scenes in game mode.
Other Tv I tested in store:
Sharp 810un: amazing input lag but motion blur remains inferior compared to Sony and fear of bad clouding made me stay away.
Sony EX500: Never could get accurate input lag feed without game mode
Sony HX909: I could feel a little input lag, more than the HX701 for sure even if some people on this forum says it can't be. I was in game mode yet felt some.
Panasonic G25: Plasma could have been a great solution for me, but I keep seeing flickering espicially on whites. image retention in video games scared me.
samsung C8000 plasma: Black in store wasn't great. In game mode, input lag was not noticeable to me. In the end, bad feedback about buzzing made me pass.