*Official* Intel DH57JG "Jet Geyser" Mini-ITX Motherboard Thread - Page 2

For playback, not an issue. Might be a bit slow for ripping but not a concern for me. I use a separate PC to "manage" my movie catalog, rips, etc. The M10 will strictly be a client on one of my tv's.

Can anyone recommend a great cpu cooler for the i5? Not concerned about cost... needs to be 80mm or less though..

I've only heard of using the stock cooler since it is quiet enough. I was looking into an aftermarket cooler but it seems it's hard to find one that will work with the mini-itx form factor. Everything I've seen is either too big, too tall, or interfere with the memory or chipset heatsink.

I'm gonna start out with the stock-fan. But IF it makes to much noise I might go for a Scythe "Big Shuriken".

Not even sure it's gonna fit (have to make some measurements first) but I have been in dialogue with a guy who has this setup:

- OrigenAE M10
- Zotac GF9300-G-E
- Scythe Big Shuriken

He had to remove the 60mm case fan, and move one of the circuit-boards in the M10-case.

Comparing the Zotac and Intel (DH57JG) boards I can see that the CPU-sockets are in different locations, so it might fit even better in the Intel-board.

It will be a tight fit and it might block the PCIe slot but... If I don't need that slot (and the stock is too loud) I'll probably give it a try

The M10 review, the writer was using the Zotac and the Intel stock fan. It all seem to fit fine. Your guy had to move the fan and the circuit board to fit the Scythe cooler?

For anybody that may want to order from Amazon, the DH57JG is now available on Amazon.com, although it's at an inflated price ($145) and is from a third-party merchant (Electronica Direct). Still, this is the page to watch for stock when Amazon.com starts to sell it, I would think:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Desktop-...dp/B0036R9VM2/

Michael

It's available at NewEgg for $125.00. Mine should arrive today.

I know that. Some posters (can't remember if it was in this thread or others) commented they had a bunch of Amazon.com gift certificates they wanted to use, so they were waiting until it was available from Amazon.

BTW, down to $138 + shipping at Amazon this morning. Still $125 + shipping at Newegg.

Michael

Good point.. didn't consider that...

Lol, that was me. Still waiting for Amazon.com to sell it, though, and not a third-party.

I've been trying to come up with a couple of build options for this board, and I'm stuck on RAM -- I'm out of touch with what some of the choices actually mean:

- Newegg lists 3 different speeds for DDR3-1333: PC3-10600, 10660, or 10666. Huh? Looks like the 10666's tend to be cheaper (a plus), but then I see the occasional comments about "not working in a P55 chipset"... Would that matter with this H57?

- I see a lot of DDR3-1600 in peoples' builds. Is there really going to be any advantage to that for this board?

- If I decide to go for the i5-661 (for casual 3-D, older games@1080p), would any of the latency/timings specs be more important than others? I'm thinking not, but I was never very good at figuring out which #s meant better performance, if any...

On a different subject, one possible build is to put this in the tiniest mITX case I can find (no optical, 40GB SSD, stock cooler, picoPSU). However, I'm not quite up on what the real cooling requiments of an i3-530 (or i5-661) would be in comparison to the Core2Duo ratings for some of the cases I see on LogicSupply and elsewhere. Anyone got any pointers? My research is turning up more questions than answers.

Well, at least you know they have a listing for it now--just waiting for Amazon to carry it themselves.

I'm more inclined to order from Amazon if they offer it for the same price as Newegg (especially if they offer free shipping) since their return policies seem to be a little more relaxed.

Michael

I'm also curious if there's a "memory support list" for this Intel board. I'm curious which memory components Intel supports and/or recommends.


I'm battling this same choice. Do I build it in something like the Antec ISK 300-150 with a slimline Blu-ray player and hope that a CableCard tuner will fit in it in the future? Or do I abandon those plans and put it in something like the Mini-Box M350 (with no optical drive and no CableCard)? I saw on a thread somewhere (can't remember if it was here or The Green Button) that somebody is building a M350 with this board, so I'm very curious to see how that all fits together.

Michael

From what I've noticed, the PC3-10600 seems to be standard while the 10660 and 10666 seems to be overclocked PC3-8500's. For DDR3, I'd just go with Kingston or Crucial value models at 1.5V.

Intel does have a list of compatible memory - http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../cs-030955.htm, and click on '3rd Party Tested Memory*'. The problem is, that the list is very short - presumably 'cos this is a new board. If/when I get this board, I'll be following ilovejedd's advice and getting some value RAM.

All the best

My MB arrived today....

For those of you with Origen M10 cases, I'm having trouble getting most of the cables to reach.

Power LED - Short to MB
Power SW - Short to MB
ATX Power Cable (Short when trying to connect Pwr Standby cable to front PCB)

Hoping someone can give me some tips here. I suppose I can extend some of these cables. It's a shame really.. For the price of this case, you would think they would add a few inches to the cable to ensure you're not short.

Couple of you mentioned you are building with the M10 case as well. Maybe you can fill me in.

Seems to me I need three 2 pin extension cables to get this done. Anyone know where I can find them? I only found 3 pin extension cables on Newegg.

Oh well.. build will be delayed I guess...

I can't say I'm surprised by this. The M10 was designed against the previous generation of mini itx mobo layouts. Intel made big layout changes on this one, most especially by moving the ATX block from the front edge to the side. It was a good move, IMO, given how frustrating it always was to cram those ATX cables beneath the optical drive.

Anyway, I'd bet Origen is already busy with a revision of their case designs, and they might even be willing to swap out PSU's with you. You did pay a lot of money for that case after all...

Just spoke to the local distributor. Doesn't look like they are aware of the connections being short. I emailed the details to them as requested. Hopefully, they will have a solution soon. In the meantime, all I really need is a couple of 2 pin extension cables. If anyone has any other ideas, please share.

Tony

I don't know why they wouldn't put cables in that can reach all corners of a mini-itx board. Then they wouldn't have to worry about cables being too short. If there is too much slack on another motherboard with the header closer to the front of the case then all you need to do is bundle the slack up and zip tie it.

Oh well, not too big of a deal. Just grab an extension.

I actually plan on making custom length cables for my Apex MI-008 case to allow for cable management. I'm not sure yet what to do about the picoPSU as it might interfere with the 120mm fan that I added to the right side of the case. I would love to attach it directly to the ATX power connection on the board as it will be in front of the fan to allow cooling, but I think I may need to use an extension cable to avoid this interference. Will have to wait and see...my board arrives today.

Also, I'm going to make a new custom cable for the molex and SATA power connectors. I am using a SATA blu-ray drive and SATA hard drive and want to replace the molex connector with a SATA power connector. I will also be lengthening the cable to allow for better cable management.

I just did a brief comparison on the noise/heat issues.

BTW, if anyone has any questions not answered already in this thread or the review LMK.

Thanks for the thorough review! I'm getting more excited about this platform. A couple of lingering questions:

1. For PSU sizing: is it safe to say that this system will never pull > 80W? (i.e. with a full-size BD drive + 7200rpm HDD)
2. Can we get by without a case fan with the stock Intel cooler, PicoPSU and late-gen HDD's?


Thanks,
Dan W.

You could go over 80W with a 7200RPM drive + BD drive if you were doing something really CPU intensive at the same time the drives were in use. What PSU are you looking at?


As long as the case has decent ventilation that shouldn't be an issue. The stock HSF was the only active cooling (besides the fans in the standard PSU when it was being tested) during all of the testing.

Trying to decide between the 80W and 90W picoPSU. I guess it's better to go with 90W.

-Dan W.

Either might be cutting it a little close if that's going to be a common scenario (i.e. doing a lot of transcoding or commercial scanning). Take a look at SPCR review of the 120W.

I would error on the 90w just to be safe, however...

I have a DG45FC board with an e8600, 4GB, slim drive, 7200rpm 2.5" hdd, and a PCI 1x card in it and at peak it draws no more than 85w at the plug even with a 3d game running. I expect a similarly configured DH57JG+Core i3 to draw perhaps 10w less. Also, My DG45ID with two tuners, 2 3.5" HDDs, and several case fans draws 110 watts peak.

Installing Windows now...

Quick note, it is very quiet even with the 120mm case fan. The picoPSU interferes with the case fan but that's the least of my worries. It doesn't even work! I am now running with the original power supply with the case open and apart.

Do you mean that your picoPSU has failed, or that it is incompatible with the DH57JG? Also, by 'interferes' do you mean that the picoPSU blocks airflow, or the fan blades rattle against it, or it won't fit? I'm concerned because I'm planning on building with my MI-008 as well, and I'm tired of the stock PSU that sounds like a car engine.

Thanks,
Dan W.

My picoPSU has failed. I plug it in and the power LED on the board doesn't light up, though it does with the stock PSU. There is a LED on the power brick that I would assume should light up when plugged in but it doesn't so I have a feeling the power brick is faulty.

Stock PSU works and is actually quieter than the CPU fan, which is saying something considering I can't hear the CPU fan unless I have my ear to the case. Though it does not fit easily in the case. Right now I'm running it outside of my case with the case open.

When I say the picoPSU interferes with my case fan, the power line going in, peripheral devices cable, and the 12v P4 cable all exit the picoPSU away from the board when the picoPSU is plugged in. This is fine if you do not add a 120mm case fan in the spot on the side of the case where a 3.5" hard drive can be mounted on it's side. But with the 120mm fan there, like in the SPCR article on the MI-008, the cables go into the fan blades. I'm sure it can be modified to work, but my problem right now is that it won't even power on!

I'm running the latest driver and BIOS and everything seems fine so far. It sees my Onkyo 605 and all 8 channels are allowed. All HD audio codecs are supported under the properties menu. I'm waiting to install PowerDVD and MPC-HC. Wake from S3 by USB is blazing fast! I had it in S3 all night and it woke up in an instant when I moved my mouse. I need to get a remote and receiver to test it out more though.

All in all I am extremely happy with the DH57JG! It's not Intel's fault my picoPSU is being lame...

Initial Problem with My Build

In addition to my Intel DH55TC build, I'm putting together a client based on the DH57JG. All the parts arrived today and I started with putting together the build. Below are the parts:

Case: M350 (from Minibox.com)
CPU: Intel Core i3 530
Motherboard: Intel DH57JG
RAM: 2x2GB OCZ PC3-10666 1333MHz, DDR3
SSD: Intel X25-V 40GB
PSU: picoPSU-150-XT + 102W Adapter Power Kit (Minibox.com)

So far here are my problems:

(1) After installing the parts, the motherboard will not post. The best way that I can describe the symptoms are the following: The green light on the motherboard lights after plugging in the power. After pressing the power button, the CPU fan alternates turning on and off for only a second or two. With the same periodicity, my connected display registers that it is receiving both audio and video signals. I would describe the CPU fan and display as "pulsing." Once again, the machine never posts.

In an attemp to troubleshoot, I have individually and all together removed the RAM and SSD. I also switched out the picoPSU with a standard ATX PSU. In all cases, I get the same "pulsing"

So, is this a bad motherboard and/or CPU, or am I missing something else to try?

(2) Similar to experiences with other cases, the front panel cables on the M350 are too short. I will have to order/make replacement cables that are a few inches longer.

(3) The stock CPU is too wide for the M350 with the SSD installed. The cooler will need to be about 1 inch less wide or about 0.5 inch shorter. Any ideas/recommedations?