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post #61 of 542
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Originally Posted by tcs2tx View Post


(1) After installing the parts, the motherboard will not post. The best way that I can describe the symptoms are the following: The green light on the motherboard lights after plugging in the power. After pressing the power button, the CPU fan alternates turning on and off for only a second or two. With the same periodicity, my connected display registers that it is receiving both audio and video signals. I would describe the CPU fan and display as "pulsing." Once again, the machine never posts.

In an attemp to troubleshoot, I have individually and all together removed the RAM and SSD. I also switched out the picoPSU with a standard ATX PSU. In all cases, I get the same "pulsing"

So, is this a bad motherboard and/or CPU, or am I missing something else to try?

I've seen that before with bad ram. Do you have any extra that you know works that could be swapped in (wasn't sure from above if you've already done that).
post #62 of 542
Lose the performance RAM and buy some generic cheap stuff.
post #63 of 542
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Just spoke to the local distributor. Doesn't look like they are aware of the connections being short. I emailed the details to them as requested. Hopefully, they will have a solution soon. In the meantime, all I really need is a couple of 2 pin extension cables. If anyone has any other ideas, please share.

Tony

Hi Tony,

I joined AVS just to get into this discussion!

I am building a very similar setup to you using an Origen M10 and the Intel DH57JG. I have only just got the mobo yesterday.

I am based in the UK - but have found a few useful cables for this setup which may help you. I apologise but I am going to link a UK store but am sure that you can find the same parts in the US.

1) Extending the various 2 pin connectors which don't reach --
Am going to buy these today:
Colour Single Pin Interconnect Cables
maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=98848
It contains 8 (2x4 colours) single pin 4.5cm extenders (I assume you don't need more than this?)

2) Since I am going to use a Core i5 661 - I was going to add a second fan into the optional area. I then noticed the MB only has 1 case fan power connector, so was going to get one of these to solve problem:
a) Simplest solution -- 3 Pin Cable Splitter
maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=37056
b) ATX power for 2 fans - Power Supply Cable for 2 x Fans
maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=98965
c) Most advanced solution - variable power -- Fan Multi-Connector Cable
maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=34544

3) I have also bought a very small Belkin USB bluetooth adaptor and wanted to use some of the spare 6 USB headers on the MB. I saw this to use inside the case (but problem is not sure how much room I have inside to put this sticking up from MB!):
Internal USB Plate for Motherboard Pins
maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=346517

Let me know how you get on with your build!

Ashley
post #64 of 542
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Originally Posted by tcs2tx View Post

Initial Problem with My Build

(2) Similar to experiences with other cases, the front panel cables on the M350 are too short. I will have to order/make replacement cables that are a few inches longer.

I found extenders (and other misc doo-dads) at Logic Supply: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/cabhdr254_20 -- couldn't find anything at monoprice or newegg like that, but there's bound to be other places.

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(3) The stock CPU is too wide for the M350 with the SSD installed. The cooler will need to be about 1 inch less wide or about 0.5 inch shorter. Any ideas/recommedations?

I saw that mentioned by the guy trying the Zotac build; he had to clip off a bit of plastic from the cooler as well to get it to fit. But I guess the Zotac socket is further to the side, and that the Intel wouldn't fit no matter what w/ the stock fan.

Eagerly cheering on your eventual success, as that's the build I want to do as well.
post #65 of 542
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Originally Posted by Fellini8.5 View Post

I found extenders (and other misc doo-dads) at Logic Supply: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/cabhdr254_20 -- couldn't find anything at monoprice or newegg like that, but there's bound to be other places.

That's a female / female meant to hook the MB to a front panel header. You want a male / female extender. Didn't see any on that site...
post #66 of 542
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Originally Posted by scientest View Post

That's a female / female meant to hook the MB to a front panel header. You want a male / female extender. Didn't see any on that site...

a 3 pin fan extension should work.
post #67 of 542
I know some people had problems running a TV tuning card in the PCIe slot on the Zotac board... Has anybody tried that with the Intel board? My dream is to have the Ceton InfiniTV card running with the DH57JG. I'm just curious if it looks like it will work.

Michael
post #68 of 542
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

a 3 pin fan extension should work.

Actually, thinking about it some more, the cable Fellini8.5 pointed at might work if it is long enough to reach to the front panel and if the cable that is currently there is connected to the front panel by way of the same style plug... A 3 pin fan extension might not be able to plug into the MB without overlapping other connections or components but might be worth a shot.
post #69 of 542
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Originally Posted by scientest View Post

Actually, thinking about it some more, the cable Fellini8.5 pointed at might work if it is long enough to reach to the front panel and if the cable that is currently there is connected to the front panel by way of the same style plug... A 3 pin fan extension might not be able to plug into the MB without overlapping other connections or components but might be worth a shot.

You should be able to just pull the connectors out of the plastic.
post #70 of 542
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Originally Posted by EmDub View Post

I know some people had problems running a TV tuning card in the PCIe slot on the Zotac board... Has anybody tried that with the Intel board? My dream is to have the Ceton InfiniTV card running with the DH57JG. I'm just curious if it looks like it will work.

Michael

I tested a HVR-2250 and M780 in the slot and both worked fine.
post #71 of 542
I was able to install the stock PSU for the Apex MI-008 case with the stock CPU cooler, for now. I just didn't want my build to be running with the PSU out and the case shell off. It does rest on the top of the CPU cooler though, but it's not a problem. It will work until I get my picoPSU fixed.

I was able to test a few movies out and it works really well. Both DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD worked in PowerDVD 9 and MPC-HC with ffdshow. The only issue I had with playback was some green and purple banding and blocking during a test of transformers 2, a MKV in MPC-HC.

I need to adjust the brightness and color too as it seems a bit dark. Any recommendations on how to calibrate my HTPC correctly? Before I had my TV calibrated and the stock settings on my 8800gt were perfect so I've never had to calibrate the HTPC.

And the BIOS and post screens run at 640x480 but they seem to be cut off at the top. Not sure if there is a way around this other than using a computer monitor connected via DVI.
post #72 of 542
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

I tested a HVR-2250 and M780 in the slot and both worked fine.

Awesome--thanks! I'm close to ordering this board--just trying to settle on the case I want first.

Michael
post #73 of 542
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Originally Posted by scientest View Post

Actually, thinking about it some more, the cable Fellini8.5 pointed at might work if it is long enough to reach to the front panel and if the cable that is currently there is connected to the front panel by way of the same style plug... A 3 pin fan extension might not be able to plug into the MB without overlapping other connections or components but might be worth a shot.


I do not believe that the cable that Fellini8.5 pointed to will work because it is also has female connections on each end and appears to be roughly the same size as the existing cable in the M350 - in order words, it will be too short to use as a replacement cable. For a replacement cable, I think it will be best for the cable to be at least 40 cm in length.

I think that the suggestion from Andy will work. I am currently using a cable with a 6-pin adapter on each end that I scavenged from an old case. I think I will end up using this 12" extension cable from Microcenter:

http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0327277
post #74 of 542
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

I've seen that before with bad ram. Do you have any extra that you know works that could be swapped in (wasn't sure from above if you've already done that).


No problem with the RAM. I was an idiot (not the first time). This is my first time with the PicoPSU and mine came with the 4 pin power adapter separate from the PicoPSU. Originally, I did not have the 4 pin adapter plugged into the motherboard because I mistakenly thought it was a PCI-E power plug. As I was getting rady to disassemble the build I noticed the error of my ways. Once the PicoPSU was properly installed, it fired right up and installed Win7 x86 in AHCI mode with no problems on the IntelSSD. I'll be testing bitstreaming tonight.
post #75 of 542
With the exception of a couple of connectors being a couple of inches short for M10 case...

  • Windows 7 installed without issue.
  • Intel provided drivers worked perfectly.
  • All devices recognized in Device Manager
  • Updated to latest BIOS on Intel website (a must). No issues.

My Movies 3.12 + Arcsoft Media Theater (for bluray) installed without issue.

DVD's and Bluray ISO, video_ts structure play flawlessly. 1080p plays stutter free on bluray. Picture quality is excellent.

System wakes up with remote when in sleep mode. (USB wake up)

Still need to test HD bitstream audio. Other than that, my M10 case was the only hiccup so far.

Very stable board so far! Running for about 8 hours straight with no apparent heat issues.
post #76 of 542
I'm still writing up a review on M350 + DH57JG but I had the same problem with the cable being too short and stock CPU cooler. I replaced the cable with similar longer cable and exchanged the connector. This worked out well as it lets me route the cable under the motherboard.
For the SSD drive I initially created new mounts for it but in the end just used an aftermarket heatsink.

Below is my setup:

i3-540, DH57JG, M350, picoPSU 150W, X25-M 160GB, Corsair 4GB (2x 2GB) DDR3.
post #77 of 542
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Originally Posted by tcs2tx View Post

No problem with the RAM. I was an idiot (not the first time). This is my first time with the PicoPSU and mine came with the 4 pin power adapter separate from the PicoPSU. Originally, I did not have the 4 pin adapter plugged into the motherboard because I mistakenly thought it was a PCI-E power plug. As I was getting rady to disassemble the build I noticed the error of my ways. Once the PicoPSU was properly installed, it fired right up and installed Win7 x86 in AHCI mode with no problems on the IntelSSD. I'll be testing bitstreaming tonight.

Which picoPSU do you have? Does your power brick have a power LED on it to indicate it is plugged in? I'm asking as my picoPSU (150W with 150W power brick) is not working. The power LED on the brick doesn't turn on so I'm thinking it is faulty.
post #78 of 542
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Originally Posted by tlmaclennan View Post

Which picoPSU do you have? Does your power brick have a power LED on it to indicate it is plugged in? I'm asking as my picoPSU (150W with 150W power brick) is not working. The power LED on the brick doesn't turn on so I'm thinking it is faulty.

I currently have the following:

picoPSU (150W) - http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-150-XT

AC-DC Power Adapter (150W) - http://www.mini-box.com/12v-12-5A-AC-DC-Power-Adapter

For my power brick, the green LED lights up when plugged in, even if the brick is not plugged into the picoPSU. So, it sounds like your brick is not working.

For thos interested in the picoPSU in combination with the M350 case, please note that the plug on the 150W power adapter does not fit the circular chassis panel mount hole on the back of the M350 case. I'm probably going to switch to the picoPSU (120W) and 102W adapter since the plug for the 102 W adapter will work with the hole in the M350 case.
post #79 of 542
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Originally Posted by Fellini8.5 View Post

I found extenders (and other misc doo-dads) at Logic Supply: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/cabhdr254_20 -- couldn't find anything at monoprice or newegg like that, but there's bound to be other places.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, this looks to be the same type of power cable and even the same length that comes with the M350. I would suggest trying the extender cable from Microcenter that I linked above. I spent a bit of time trying to find one, and it was the only that I found that was long enough to reach the header without having to go over the top of the board and CPU.

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Originally Posted by Fellini8.5 View Post

I saw that mentioned by the guy trying the Zotac build; he had to clip off a bit of plastic from the cooler as well to get it to fit. But I guess the Zotac socket is further to the side, and that the Intel wouldn't fit no matter what w/ the stock fan.

As I previously mentioned, I am using the M350 with an SSD. The SSD mounted in the M350 hits the stock Intel CPU cooler. I have considered (1) trying to find a low profile cooler - so far, unsuccessful, (2) keeping the SSD outiside of the case since I am planning on hiding the build behind a TV, or (3) removing the fan from the cooler and going only with the heatsink. I decided to try another option - cutting away part of the plastic from the stock cooler. The cooler has four plastic support/protection braces, one of which the SSD hits. After I removed the brace, the SSD almost has enough room, but hits the tips of the fan blades. So, I clipped off the tips of each of the fan blades so that the fan would spin and not hit the SSD. I ended up cutting off a triangle that was about 2cm on each side. The M350 now works with an SSD and stock/modified CPU/cooler.

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Originally Posted by Fellini8.5 View Post

Eagerly cheering on your eventual success, as that's the build I want to do as well.

After installing all current drivers and TMT3/170 patch, I was able to bitstream DTS-HD and DD TrueHD to my Emotiva UMC-1. The current temp on the CPU according to Intel Desktop Utilities is 67C with the M350 in a cabinet.

This was a very easy build.
post #80 of 542
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

With the exception of a couple of connectors being a couple of inches short for M10 case...

  • Windows 7 installed without issue.
  • Intel provided drivers worked perfectly.
  • All devices recognized in Device Manager
  • Updated to latest BIOS on Intel website (a must). No issues.

My Movies 3.12 + Arcsoft Media Theater (for bluray) installed without issue.

DVD's and Bluray ISO, video_ts structure play flawlessly. 1080p plays stutter free on bluray. Picture quality is excellent.

System wakes up with remote when in sleep mode. (USB wake up)

Still need to test HD bitstream audio. Other than that, my M10 case was the only hiccup so far.

Very stable board so far! Running for about 8 hours straight with no apparent heat issues.

Adidino, could you post some pictures of your build? I'm thinking of buying the same case, but there aren't too many real life pictures on the net...
post #81 of 542
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Originally Posted by hommy View Post

Adidino, could you post some pictures of your build? I'm thinking of buying the same case, but there aren't too many real life pictures on the net...


Sure.. but here's a review with some very detailed shots.. inside and outside...

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Origen_ae/M10/3.html
post #82 of 542
Here's the lowest price I've found so far for the DH57JG:

Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Desktop-...dp/B0036R9VM2/

Buy.com
http://www.buy.com/prod/intel-media-...213780094.html

Buy.com is the seller in both instances, but you can use Amazon.com credit/gift certificates with the first link.

Amazon/Buy are also offering free 3-5 day shipping. Upgrade to 2-day shipping for $5.49 more.

I just placed my order--now all I need to order is RAM, and I'm ready to go!

BTW, Buy.com is offering Bing Cashback, so that should save you a few more dollars. I ordered from Amazon before I thought about that aspect...

Michael
post #83 of 542
Can anyone confirm the H57 board doesn't suffer from the 3-second video freezing that some H55 owners are complaining about? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...801&highlight=
post #84 of 542
So far I have not had that problem. The only thing I can think of that comes close is that when I fast forward or skip a chapter the audio cuts for less than a second. I can hear my receiver click and the audio returns. I've heard this is common with bitstreaming.
post #85 of 542
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Originally Posted by odditory View Post

Can anyone confirm the H57 board doesn't suffer from the 3-second video freezing that some H55 owners are complaining about? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...801&highlight=

I have both the H55 and H57 boards from Intel. So far, the H57 is noriceably better with respect to the video freeze issue. I do not recall having the problem at all with the H57 board.
post #86 of 542
Thread Starter 
I'm chomping at the bit, ready to jump on this build, but I've still got a few nagging questions.

Right now, I'm definite on the following:
DH57GJ
Core i3-540
2x 2GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333-10600
Sony/NEC Optiarc BC-5600S (slim slot-load Blu-Ray drive)
-this is dependent on the case I go with

I'm pretty sure I'd like to go with an SSD, for noise reduction and speed, as well as a small bit of future-proofing (though that's not the primary reason). I've been looking a lot at the Intel X25 series, either 40 or 80GB, and was just wondering what folks' experience has been with those drives vs. a standard platter drive.

My other sticking point is the case. I was looking at the M10, but the price makes me a bit leery, especially since a couple of you have reported the short cable issues. I know I can buy extensions, but that seems like an added hassle I'd prefer not to deal with. Are there any other really nice ITX cases out there that might present fewer difficulties, or do you think the M10 is really the best way to go? I really like the look of it, and despite the price, it definitely seems that you get what you pay for.

Thanks for any input!
post #87 of 542
Jreese - extending the cables for the M10 case are not a big deal. It was annoying at first because it was a surprise but knowing this in advance will make it easy.

PS - Where in RI are you? I'm originally from Providence... living in New Jersey now.

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Originally Posted by jreese831 View Post

I'm chomping at the bit, ready to jump on this build, but I've still got a few nagging questions.

Right now, I'm definite on the following:
DH57GJ
Core i3-540
2x 2GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333-10600
Sony/NEC Optiarc BC-5600S (slim slot-load Blu-Ray drive)
-this is dependent on the case I go with

I'm pretty sure I'd like to go with an SSD, for noise reduction and speed, as well as a small bit of future-proofing (though that's not the primary reason). I've been looking a lot at the Intel X25 series, either 40 or 80GB, and was just wondering what folks' experience has been with those drives vs. a standard platter drive.

My other sticking point is the case. I was looking at the M10, but the price makes me a bit leery, especially since a couple of you have reported the short cable issues. I know I can buy extensions, but that seems like an added hassle I'd prefer not to deal with. Are there any other really nice ITX cases out there that might present fewer difficulties, or do you think the M10 is really the best way to go? I really like the look of it, and despite the price, it definitely seems that you get what you pay for.

Thanks for any input!
post #88 of 542
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Jreese - extending the cables for the M10 case are not a big deal. It was annoying at first because it was a surprise but knowing this in advance will make it easy.

PS - Where in RI are you? I'm originally from Providence... living in New Jersey now.

adidino, where did you end up finding/buying cable extensions from? I know it was mentioned but I couldn't find it with a quick glance back through the thread.

I'm currently in the Newport area, though I grew up in Westerly. Been a RI'er all my life
post #89 of 542
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Originally Posted by jreese831 View Post

adidino, where did you end up finding/buying cable extensions from? I know it was mentioned but I couldn't find it with a quick glance back through the thread.

I'm currently in the Newport area, though I grew up in Westerly. Been a RI'er all my life

I got the extension cables local at Microcenter. Although there were plenty of websites with the same cables. I also reported the issue with the cables to the Origen rep so maybe they will have a quick solution.

Newport is great. I got married there... Astor's Beechwood Mansion.
post #90 of 542
For those ordering through Mini-Box, they will provide longer length cables if the M350 and DH57JG are ordered together through their site.

In terms of the heatsink\\fan, a slim aftermarket heatsink is expected to be available in 2 weeks. For now I've just mounted outside of the case.
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