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post #241 of 6204
I saw the 55C630 in person last night at my local BB and just gotta say, wow, is it an awesome picture. It is definitely a UCP screen (glossy for sure) but overall the picture looks great. Love the frame they put on it as well and didn't think the off-angle viewing was bad at all.

I can also confirm that the 55C630 has a 120,000:1 contrast ratio.

So after talking to a guy at Fry's today about the 55C630 and 55C650 we came to the conclusion that the only difference between the 630 and 650 is:
  • 30,000:1 difference in contrast ratio (the 630 having 120,000:1 and 650 having 150,000:1)
  • Different frame
  • Internet Apps

In the end, both 55" screens have the UCP screen (confirmed by my own eyes last night on the 630), and I can't reasonably expect to see a whole load of (if any) difference between picture quality with those two contrast ratios.

I also have a XBox 360 so I already have access to similar internet apps.

All that's left is the 650's Touch of Color frame with the subtle red chin. I'm planning on checking it out at Fry's tonight (they're the only store I've found so far with the 650 in stock) and even though it's much more subtle than last year's model I still feel like it will be a distraction.

Even though some major online retailers are selling the 55C650 at a really low price, most B&M stores are charging around the same, if not $100 more, for the 55C630 and providing better no-interest financing (upwards of 36 months).

I don't think I'm going to like the look of the 650 in person as much as the 630 and in the end, end up purchasing the 630 from a B&M or respected online retailer (24 month financing) and get some nice financing along with it.

Side note: If I were to buy through a place, let's say Best Buy, that provides extended service do you think it's REALLY worth the extra $200-250?

Reason I ask is that I can get a major B&M to price match an online retailer if I added some sort of extended service. If I opted in, it would be as if I just purchased the TV outright for the original sale price, automatically got 2 or 4 extra years of coverage, and got to finance it for 36 months.
post #242 of 6204
As I live in Spain these new models start dripping in since yesterday slowly but hardly any info to be found there yet.

So I have been reading here and would like to ask a few questions as this might help me to decide which set to buy.

Is the PQ the same or similar as the led brothers C6000 and how does it compare to the new sony's ( as those are not really to see here in the shops either to compare ) any information on the power consumptions of the 55C650 and the 55C6000 as 55'' is the size I can fit max and that is what I want to go for.
post #243 of 6204
Went and looked at the C650 tonight at Fry's and I think my decision has been made: I'm going to go with the C630.

PQ on the 650 was just as fantastic as the 630 and since I already have a 360 I won't be needing the Internet apps/widgets.

While I actually didn't mind the Touch of Color frame the 650 has, I still like the 630 frame more.

The entire 650 frame has a slight red hue to it and then dips down with a small chin at the bottom. The chin goes straight down and not forward at all. It does not light up (at least it wasn't when I was there nor could we figure out if it turned on).

You'd really only notice the red hue in the daytime or if shining a light on it. The solid black with slight grey/clear frame of the 630 is much more masculine and IMO is a better looking frame.

Part of me feels that a TV frame is not supposed to be any other color except black.

Now I'm just debating on which retailer (online vs B&M) I want to go with and how quickly and bad I want the TV in my living room, haha!
post #244 of 6204
FINALLY!

For those that were eagerly waiting, Samsung just posted a TON of new info on the C630/650 series sets:

LN55C630 ($1,899)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN46C650 ($1,299)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN46C630 ($1,099)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN40C650 (1,099)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN40C630 ($899)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=
post #245 of 6204
Is there a Panel Lottery with the 55C650? How does the 55C650 compare to last years B750? How is the flashlighting and light bleed?

Thanks
post #246 of 6204
The C670 appears to be a BB exclusive model like the B640 was for 2009.

Only instead of giving the 630 a UCP panel and chin-less bezel to make a 640, this year they decided to base it on the 650, with the internet widgets, a chin-less bezel and more prominent ToC accent stripe to create a 670.

The C630's manual also covers the C610, so it looks like they're continuing the 610 as the warehouse-club model. The B610 had a chin-less bezel and the Infolink and USB movie (IIRC) features stripped from the 630 it was based on.
post #247 of 6204
Well that answers that. But now the question is, will Samsung treat it just like they did the 640 and never release any firmware updates for it?

I thought someone said it was confirmed that BB will get the C650
post #248 of 6204
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Originally Posted by FluxTZ View Post

FINALLY!

For those that were eagerly waiting, Samsung just posted a TON of new info on the C630/650 series sets:

LN55C630 ($1,899)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN46C650 ($1,299)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN46C630 ($1,099)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN40C650 (1,099)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

LN40C630 ($899)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...ail&returnurl=

Oh man, you beat me to it!
post #249 of 6204
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Originally Posted by jleckrone View Post

Oh man, you beat me to it!

haha, luck of the draw. Just happened to shoot over there just after midnight PT and there they were.
post #250 of 6204
Thread Starter 
I'm surprised that the 40 and 46 C630s are listed as having a 60,000:1 contrast ratio, which is a downgrade from last year's model that were listed as 80,000:1. Then again, these numbers don't mean much. Still surprising.
post #251 of 6204
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Originally Posted by jarsofwei View Post

I'm surprised that the 40 and 46 C630s are listed as having a 60,000:1 contrast ratio, which is a downgrade from last year's model that were listed as 80,000:1. Then again, these numbers don't mean much. Still surprising.

possible typo error? go back to samsung website and do a comparison between 40C630, 46C630 and 55C630 all of them dynamic contrast ratio listed as 120,000. Why?
post #252 of 6204
Because its 60,000:1 mega contrast . I guess Mega means X2
post #253 of 6204
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Originally Posted by NeronetFi View Post

Because its 60,000:1 mega contrast . I guess Mega means X2

didn't catch the keyword: "Mega" but The C630's specs page references the features of the B630 from last year. "InfoLink" is no longer a feature on the C-series. Samsung screwed up
post #254 of 6204
Just looked on Samsung's page now. It appears that they have corrected at least some of the specs. (DCR is now listed as 120000:1 on the c630)
post #255 of 6204
Wonder why BB is going with another exclusive model instead of carrying the C650.
post #256 of 6204
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Originally Posted by NeronetFi View Post

Wonder why BB is going with another exclusive model instead of carrying the C650.

I believe it is to keep them from having to price-match.
post #257 of 6204
Regarding the off axis viewing fade - is this also true when the TV is up high? I want to replace my current TV (plasma) in the bedroom with the C650 but it will be on top of a 5 FT bureau. It will be positioned straight from the bed though.
post #258 of 6204
I've got mine a bit high. About four feet or so. It looks good. Things may be a little lighter, but that's about it.
post #259 of 6204
Amazon has been out of stock on the 40C630 for a few days. And the last members who received them from Amazon reported SQ panels.

I wouldn't mind hearing from anyone who orders from Amazon after March 24, what kind of panel you receive on the 40" C630.
post #260 of 6204
What's the difference between SQ panels and whatever other kind there is? And how do I tell what my TV has?
post #261 of 6204
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Originally Posted by HankTheTurtle View Post

The lag is with the built in speakers too. It's a bit hard to tell, but I think it's the audio lagging behind the video. There's a way to adjust the audio out, it seems, but I don't notice much difference. Even if I turn it all the way up.

The audio out adjustment will delay the audio from the set's optical ouput if you're listening to the set's tuner audio through an A/V receiver; it doesn't affect what is fed to the set's speakers. You shouldn't see a/v synch. issues using the tuner/internal speakers, but be aware that broadcast, satellite, and cable sources may already have mismatched a/v before they reach your set. Try multiple channels and try a local network affiliate off-air to see if the problem is consistent or only occurs on some channels.
post #262 of 6204
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Originally Posted by HankTheTurtle View Post

What's the difference between SQ panels and whatever other kind there is? And how do I tell what my TV has?

I believe this to be a non issue. I have an A panel and have no problems, great tv so far.

Has anyone been able to receive any channels over the air? I have tried auto tune to be able to use the PIP function but the tv can't find any channels. I guess I need an antenna. Are they typically very expensive?
post #263 of 6204
You can get a decent HD Antenna from Monoprice for about $20
post #264 of 6204
Went and picked up the 55C630 today - loving this set.
post #265 of 6204
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Originally Posted by HankTheTurtle View Post

I just bought a LN32C650. I like it a lot so far. I have a few questions, though.

Should it be receiving a 120Hz signal? The fastest it's showed in the info box has been 60Hz. I have it hooked up to an HD cable box, and a BD-C6500 Blu-Ray player. I haven't used my X-Box 360 on it yet. I'm not too well versed in all the tech. Does having 120Hz just make a 60Hz signal better, or do I need a 120Hz signal?

Also, I'm going to test out my 360, and was wondering the best settings to use. Should I use Game Mode? I've heard that gives it less lag, but how much does it effect the picture? Anyone know what the lag is like on the 32C650?

On a side note, I think the 32 inch C650 has the screen finish of the C630. It's not super glossy. It's more of a semi matte finish to it. It's also still got the little hump on the bottom, like the B650s. From all the pictures I've seen, the larger screens are pretty much straight on the bottom.

EDIT: I'm wrong about the hump. The other models do have it. It's just smaller and not as red as the B650s. I just haven't seen a picture of my model anywhere, so I couldn't compare.

My experience hasn't been all that great with the 360 while using the 40C630 set's 120hz processing. I don't know if my unit has got the game mode you're speaking of but I will say that you can probably get away with using anything but the game mode while playing a game where millisecond precision isn't necessary. ( Think Assassin's Creed ) In theory, turning all the extra features off or switching game mode on will speed up the response time... so they say. I'm extremely interested in what these units are actually capable off in terms of response time. They get away with all kinds of bogus numbers these days, Dynamic contrast ? response time? they could say anything and whose going to check these facts?
post #266 of 6204
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Originally Posted by HopeInHim View Post

I believe this to be a non issue. I have an A panel and have no problems, great tv so far.

Non issue is exactly what I hope to be the case. I don't like getting obsessed over a detail that may not matter.

I first considered Samsung after reading the 2008 buying article at HDguru.com where Samsung was recommended for their S-PVA panels. Then I checked 'em out at BB where I was wowed by the Samsung picture over every other brand including Sony, which seemed comparable but more expensive.

Wide viewing angle is a major consideration for a living room, and that's a major reason for choosing an S-IPS or S-PVA panel. My fear: the BB store displays use the good panel, while the shipped units have something inferior.

HopeinHim, how are your viewing angles with tha A panel? Do you have seating off to the side where the picture still looks good? Thanks.
post #267 of 6204
Is the design of the c550 and the c630 the same?
post #268 of 6204
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Originally Posted by HopeInHim View Post

I believe this to be a non issue. I have an A panel and have no problems, great tv so far.

I think I have an A panel too. What are people saying the differences are between the different panels? The picture looks great to me.

The only problem I've had is a lip sync issue. The sound lags behind the picture, no mater what the input is. Some cable channels are worse than others, but the issue is still there, but not as bad, with my new BD-C6500 player. Can't tell with my X-Box, as it's hard to see on a CG character. Everything's connected with HDMI, but the issue's still there with component.

I made a thread on it. Someone there is telling me to return/exchange it. I think I'll see if there's something Samsung can talk me through over the phone, first. I don't want to have to return my first HDTV, but why spend so much money if it's not going to be perfect?

At times, the issue is slight, most people may not notice. I'm sure there are people here with just as discriminating an eye as I have, and probably more so. If nobody here has experienced the same issue, I see no problem getting the same model.
post #269 of 6204
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Originally Posted by xefned View Post

HopeinHim, how are your viewing angles with tha A panel? Do you have seating off to the side where the picture still looks good? Thanks.

Angles are great. I have posted about this earlier. Most viewing is off axis, and the pq is fine. Swivel stand comes in handy to rotate the panel when we are in the kitchen but we are still off axis and I have zero complaints. Colors might not be as full, but this is normal and expected. Honestly, pick one of these up, you will be happy.

I believe all the talk of the 2010 panel differences and which kind you get is nothing but chatter. This is the problem with forums such as this, issues like that get blown out of proportion, imo.........


Has anyone tweaked with the picture settings and found any options that they believe made a big difference in pq? I'm very happy so far but I'm sure a tweak here or there would help. I'm awaiting a professional review to look at their settings.
post #270 of 6204
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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

Can any of the owners take a pic with a black screen in a dark room, backlight set to around 2, so we can see how deep the blacks get on this new model?

You can't even tell that it's on.
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