Official Samsung LNXXC630/C650 Owners Thread - Page 157

Originally Posted by kiwirabbit

We just bought a 55" Samsung LN55C630 and from day 1 it has had this weird problem with the left side. There is a brighter look to the left side of the TV. It starts from the edge and goes about 1/3 of the way into the tv. It makes any blacks look bluish grey, and its noticeable even if you are playing a full screen movie.

Do we have to just deal with this or do we try to get an exchange? We bought it from Leons and after a huge hassle with them about something else I'm not looking forward to dealing with them again about this.

Originally Posted by kiwirabbit

It won't let me post a picture but here is a picture someone posted that shows what I'm talking about:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...hmentid=182490

Ours is only on the left side though.

Originally Posted by dandaroy

Does anyone have any motion blur issues with the c650? I have a 55" and even with the AMP on, there is some blur. I am guessing with an LCD I can't get any better.

Originally Posted by 88ronin

Wow, I had this exact same problem on my first 55" c650. Sent it back for a replacement...... and the 2nd one had the exact same issue! Both sets had this brightness problem on the right side though, not the left, and the thickness of that light band was around the same as in that attached picture you posted.

And note that I'm a big Samsung fan - we have a lot of their stuff in our house. I went with the c650 because we have an older LN40A550 which we liked a lot.

I tried really hard to like the c650 and tried twice... but both TV's had serious uniformity issues and light bleeding from the corners (in addition to that bright vertical band on the right side). Also, the 2nd set had seriously bad motion blur that was somewhat addressed with the AMP turned on, but I absolutely hated the soap-opera effect, so it was a no-win situation. Both panels were AA02.

I finally went with the Vizio XVT553SV (CNET's pick for best LCD of the year) and am finally completely satisfied. Even my wife who is completely non-technical says that the picture on our Vizio is noticeably better than the Samsung's. We also don't see any of the blooming issues like some other's have.

Sorry Samsung, I tried!

I had massive motion blur problems with my 2nd 55" c650. That got sent back like the 1st one (which had less motion blur, but had other issues).

And yes, you can get better for an LCD. My Vizio XVT553SV has no noticeable blur, even with their "motion smoothness" setting turned completely off. Like you, I also thought this blur was "normal" (especially on a larger 55" screen), until I saw the Vizio for myself.

Originally Posted by drbonbi

In Consumer Reports recent ratings of TVs, the Vizio XVT553SV scored a 73 for seventh place among 52-inch and larger models. The Samsung LN55C650 came in second with a score of 76.

Sorry, Visio, try harder next time.

Dana

Originally Posted by b_rad4

So has anyone had any luck with a panel swap? I am having a problem with vertical and horizontal banding on my set. It is very noticeable on any panning scene where there is a lot of a single color on the screen at once, example Vertical lines appear and become very noticeable as the scene pans such as when watching soccer or hockey as play goes back and forth. It also is very noticeable when playing certain video games, especially in the night sky when playing Red Dead Redemption. Also if I put a completely grey screen the lines become visible without any panning though they are faint with no motion as seen in the attached pic. It is more noticeable in real life so if a tech came to look at it he couldn't ignore it.

Edit-If you tilt you screen to an off angle you can see it better.

Originally Posted by buzzard767

When playing via USB is the blue only mode available? I've never tried it.

As to the white clipping pattern and the color pattern you should see flashing in both as well as several other patterns. The one you couldn't possibly miss would be the Basic Settings #4 Flashing Color Bars. If you don't see the four centered squares under the words "color" and "tint" flashing than your input through USB would be the same as a Blu-Ray in the pause mode, and this is not what you want to see.

Originally Posted by joe456123

Thanks buzzard767. I copied it to the drive of my satellite receiver now its working. I had to rename the files to mpg in order for the satellite receivers PVR to play them. Do you have any comments about my suspicion that the SQ02 panel could be less sharp than the AA01/AMVA panels. Pixelstructure beong about equal what could cause the difference ?

Anyone with LE46C650 AA01/2 panels to comment ?

Originally Posted by joe456123

Do you have any comments about my suspicion that the SQ02 panel could be less sharp than the AA01/AMVA panels. Pixelstructure beong about equal what could cause the difference ?

Originally Posted by joe456123

Oh one more thing I am having a really hard time with is the detail in blacks. Even with AVSHD adjusted brightness, contrast and backlight - it seems I am unable to calibrate the panel to show detail in blacks (black/dark suits etc). Is it common ? Maybe its why the Sq panels get such a high rating on contrast (difference black/white). I am afraid if I increase brightness, contrast and backlight too much other bad things will happen (grey instead of black, colors etc). Sorry for these questions again.

Originally Posted by bpg99

I just got my LN55C650 a couple days before Christmas. It's an SQ01 panel.

The HD picture quality is amazing - black levels, color and sharpness are fantastic. Off angle viewing isn't perfect but it's not bad.

However, 1 thing I haven't had much luck with. SD quality from DirecTV is very very soft (blurry) - to the point it gives me a headache to watch it. I've tried cranking up the sharpness (even to 100) and it helps a little but not much and just adds a lot of artifacts to the picture.

I know DirecTV SD quality isn't great - and DVD's look good - so it's most likely that DTV is the issue, but I have to say the same channels look much better on my 50 inch Panasonic Plasma. It's strange because the reviews I read said the scaler in this TV was great and SD quality was a great strength.

It's basically painful to watch. Is there some setting that might help?

Originally Posted by newbuyer1

hey guys. I've been posting here on and off for the last couple of months about my 46C630 (or c610 in canada). Overall, i still love this TV, but now that the honeymoon is over, I'm now a bit more critical.
One issue I have is with audio-video synching. BR and DVDs are OK (not perfect) and not too bothersome, but TV is becoming apparent, especially since I'm now obsessed with lip watching. Some programs are worse than others and are intolerable. What can I do? Is this a TV problem, cable receiver problem? Are there any options for bridging the AV delay in either the TV or cable receiver?
I don't have a sound system, which is where I'd expect a problem with synching. Just straight HDMI from receiver to TV.

Originally Posted by MisterSteve

Hello everyone, I just bought an LN46C630K1F from Walmart 3 days ago and am unsure whether I am going to return it. I have noticeable flashlighting/backlight bleed from the two bottom corners of the screen. This is my first LCD HD TV ever and for 900 bucks, for the backlight bleed to have jumped out to me (I am mechanically savvy and fairly tech savvy but I knew nothing about LCD panels) is not good. I had to go online and look up "why does my new LCD TV have bright corners" to learn about flashlighting problems. The flashlighting from the corners is pretty noticeable a few inches out from each bottom corner in a dark room with the backlight level set between 11 and 14 and the light compensating mode and eco modes off. If I turn the backlight level way down of course the flashlighting is improved but I did not pay 900 bucks for a TV to turn the brightness down...In a well lit room the flashlighting is almost not noticeable in the black bar area at the bottom of the screen but when I watch blue rays with the lights dimmed I do notice it in the black bars especially once the set has warmed up for about 20 minutes....I am trying to like this TV and ignore the flashlighting but being a detail oriented person I am pretty sure I am going to wind up hating this TV if I keep it.

Because I got it from Walmart I have 30 days to return the thing. I am not sure whether to try getting another of the exact same set and pray the backlighting uniformity is better or whether I should get the same priced $898 46" Sony Bravia they have instead. The HD picture quality on this Samsung watchign a blue ray is astonishing but I am worried about the annoyance of the backlight bleed.

Originally Posted by MisterSteve

I looked through the calibration stuff but I'm not unhappy with anything about the image other than the flashlights. Other than just making the screen less bright, from my understanding I didn't think calibration could really do anything to remove them because they are due to deformation of the diffuser?

I don't know any more about Sonys than Samsungs, I was just pointing out that if I stay at Walmart my only 2 $900'ish 46" 120hz choices are the 630 and the Sony so if I wanted to do an easy swap this weekend I could get another of one, or the other. My main issue is image uniformity.

Better check Consumer Reports.

Originally Posted by GTOne

CR are very good, and one of the few I'd trust. However, one thing is clear. Samsung quality control is swinging a little bit. CR didn't test the 46" panel I had, because if they had it would have scored very poorly.

While results from tests at CR are a help, there is only one way to know for sure what you are getting, and that is after you open the box and plug in. (This goes for any brand and model of set.)

Too bad the panels in Samsung sets are made up of what, 11 different panels across the 6xx series? That is the real problem because they aren't the same at all. Someone showing up here and saying they got a bad set (with explanation)strikes much harder than someone saying they got a good one. To me, the known issues that the 6xxx series show are more important than the sets that perform as advertised.

CR testing results don't help that sinking feeling in the pit of your gut at all when you get a lousy performing set.

Originally Posted by Swift87


Sigh... So I bought a LN40c630 AA01 almost a month ago. I loved it, pq was amazing, off angle viewing is very good. But tonight was the first time I've played Red Dead Redemption single player and I've noticed vertical banding while panning. Mostly on the middle-right and continuing towards the right side.

Strangely I haven't noticed it in multiplayer Undead Overrun, OR Black Ops. But I played thru the COD campaign on my old tube tv. Now I'm just afraid I'll get a worse panel if I exchange it, I can't notice it while watching Blu-Rays or cable, but playing rdr with that banding is extremely frustrating... Back to amazon...

Originally Posted by 83trekker


There is so much bad rap about the AA panels, but i bet theres a ton more out there that are atually really good, you just dont here about them.

Originally Posted by Daye

i read the manuel an it says it has another audio out besides the optical toslink does it realy ?