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post #6001 of 6231
Hey guys

Does anybody know a good cheap wireless dongle to be compatible with my c650 set?
I read somewhere about it but I can't find it now.
post #6002 of 6231
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Originally Posted by jacampb View Post

I posted a thread about this but no one replied so I thought I'd put it up here where people can give me their direct experiences

Whenever there is a scene with a lot of contrast I get pretty bad ghosting, especially with faces. For example, I watched a movie about Mummies and whenever they would show a person's face as they were walking, the dark makeup and eyebrows sort of bounced around their face while they walked, like they were lagging behind the rest of the face. Happens in movie where people wear dark framed glasses as well.

And I don't think it's just faces, because everything seems to be blurring a bit with motion.

What I'm really wanting to know is:
Is this normal for this TV? I didn't notice blur or ghosting when I first got the TV used off amazon - I was really happy with the picture then. But now that my 30 days of return is gone, I'm starting to notice this kinda stuff. I could just be getting pickier, but I really don't think so, because my friend's Sanyo is displaying motion and faces more clearly than this TV.

I still have a squaretrade warranty for another 7 months or so if I could convince someone it's actually going bad in some way. I need to know if there's some test pattern I can run on it to show a repairman that I'm not just crazy.

PS: I have the "A" panel, though I think this just affects the off angle viewing contrast. I have AutoMotionPlus set at 9 or 10 blur reduction and 1 or so judder reduction, but I've tried changing all this around to no avail. I have edge enhancement off, dynamic contrast off, noise filters off. Most of the other stuff is set about where cnet recommends for their calibration.

Thanks so much, let's get this resolved for me before Star wars comes out on blu ray!

Josh


Hey Josh,
I just had that EXACT problem on my ln46c610 set (also and A panel). I would get outrageous smearing in people's faces as they walked if there was a dimly lit scene or shadows (eg. golfers faces due to the shadow cast by their hat, person walking down a dimly lit hallway, etc.). There was also just a general lack of detail in the image, especially when there was any sort of motion whatsoever. I arranged a service call through the samsung website and had a tech come and look at it. All they they ended up doing was replace the main board in the back of the tv, and that TOTALLY fixed the problem. AND the picture quality is also 200% better; no more blurring, smearing, there's crisp detail. Pretty sure it was a faulty board from the start. Just set up a service request and ask about having the main board replaced (it's the board that has all of the video inputs on it, HDMI, component, etc.).
Cheers
post #6003 of 6231
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Originally Posted by lord69 View Post

Hey guys

Does anybody know a good cheap wireless dongle to be compatible with my c650 set?
I read somewhere about it but I can't find it now.

Put "Rosewill" in 'Search This Thread' box upper right drop down. /Dan
post #6004 of 6231
Not sure how helpful this will be, but I found that if I connected my SD DVR via RCA jacks instead of Coaxial, it increased the picture quality noticeably.

I never had a reason to use RCA instead of Coaxial on my old SD TV, so I never thought it would actually increase picture quality.

Granted, SD still sucks compared to HD, but it's less pixelated with more vibrant colors, so it makes it a tad more bearable.
post #6005 of 6231
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Originally Posted by danki6x View Post


Put "Rosewill" in 'Search This Thread' box upper right drop down. /Dan

Thanks man.
I found it on amazon.com but I'm not sure if it will ship it to canada.
Anybody's got it from canada?I'd be glad to know where I can purchase one in CA.
post #6006 of 6231
I'm thinking about picking up the hardware/software for professional calibration of my new 40" 630. But I'm not sure what I should pick up.

I found this SPYDER3 Tv calibration tool on Amazon, but I don't know if this is all I need, or I need to buy software as well.

Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/ColorVision-S3...5043192&sr=8-8

If that is all I need...would anyone actually suggest it...or is this a bad model?
post #6007 of 6231
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Originally Posted by testament0221 View Post

I'm thinking about picking up the hardware/software for professional calibration of my new 40" 630. But I'm not sure what I should pick up.

I found this SPYDER3 Tv calibration tool on Amazon, but I don't know if this is all I need, or I need to buy software as well.

Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/ColorVision-S3...5043192&sr=8-8

If that is all I need...would anyone actually suggest it...or is this a bad model?

Go to the calibration thread and the very knowledgeable list what to get.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1243937
/Dan
post #6008 of 6231
So, I'm curious to ask something of you Samsung c630 owners.

I'm considering the LN40C630 and the Panasonic Viera TCL42U30 as my potential purchases for a new TV.

I plan to mostly play video games, watch blu-rays and TV.

I play pretty much everything from COD to Red Dead Redemption to Elder Scrolls to Fallout to Tiger Woods.

I've read through the entire thread and it seems pretty confusing to me, is this tv a good choice for video games? How is the PQ overall?

I've seen the set many times in store and I really love its features.

I've been told to go with the Panny Viera because it has an IPS panel as well as a number of other things that supposedly push it well over the Samsung in quality.

As for lighting, I can control it completely.

What is the general consensus here?

Man, I thought picking a TV now that I have the money would've been easy.
post #6009 of 6231
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Originally Posted by scoopaloop View Post
Hey Josh,
I just had that EXACT problem on my ln46c610 set (also and A panel). I would get outrageous smearing in people's faces as they walked if there was a dimly lit scene or shadows (eg. golfers faces due to the shadow cast by their hat, person walking down a dimly lit hallway, etc.). There was also just a general lack of detail in the image, especially when there was any sort of motion whatsoever. I arranged a service call through the samsung website and had a tech come and look at it. All they they ended up doing was replace the main board in the back of the tv, and that TOTALLY fixed the problem. AND the picture quality is also 200% better; no more blurring, smearing, there's crisp detail. Pretty sure it was a faulty board from the start. Just set up a service request and ask about having the main board replaced (it's the board that has all of the video inputs on it, HDMI, component, etc.).
Cheers
Thanks for the feedback. Your post gave me the confidence to go ahead and file a service request online (DON'T call like I first did). Wish me luck showing the technician what the problem is.
post #6010 of 6231
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Originally Posted by lord69 View Post

Thanks man.
I found it on amazon.com but I'm not sure if it will ship it to canada.
Anybody's got it from canada?I'd be glad to know where I can purchase one in CA.

Check out Newegg Canada, I think they sale that same one.

James
post #6011 of 6231
Hi,

I'm new here. I recently bought the Samsung LN46C630 which I decided to return because movies have the artificial (SOE) soap opera effect. It has some great qualities however, for example live sports. I've researched this tv and tried all the recommendations to reduce SOE.

Just got a new Panasonic plasma ST30. But now it seems so dim by comparison. I was afraid this would happen after the vibrant Samsung. I became so used to (seduced) by the brightness of the LCD, that by comparison, the Panny plasma seems dim, though having high PQ. In case I don't keep the Panny, is there an LCD where the SOE can be adjusted to make movie viewing more like a major motion picture and not a tv show? From my research online, there seems to be no LCD without SOE.

Thanks
post #6012 of 6231
Quote:
Originally Posted by codyred View Post

Hi,

I'm new here. I recently bought the Samsung LN46C630 which I decided to return because movies have the artificial (SOE) soap opera effect. It has some great qualities however, for example live sports. I've researched this tv and tried all the recommendations to reduce SOE.

Just got a new Panasonic plasma ST30. But now it seems so dim by comparison. I was afraid this would happen after the vibrant Samsung. I became so used to (seduced) by the brightness of the LCD, that by comparison, the Panny plasma seems dim, though having high PQ. In case I don't keep the Panny, is there an LCD where the SOE can be adjusted to make movie viewing more like a major motion picture and not a tv show? From my research online, there seems to be no LCD without SOE.

Thanks

You can disable Automotion (AMP) on the LN46c630 (and every LCD with 120hz+).
post #6013 of 6231
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyaleDuke View Post

So, I'm curious to ask something of you Samsung c630 owners.

I'm considering the LN40C630 and the Panasonic Viera TCL42U30 as my potential purchases for a new TV.

I plan to mostly play video games, watch blu-rays and TV.

I play pretty much everything from COD to Red Dead Redemption to Elder Scrolls to Fallout to Tiger Woods.

I've read through the entire thread and it seems pretty confusing to me, is this tv a good choice for video games? How is the PQ overall?

I've seen the set many times in store and I really love its features.

I've been told to go with the Panny Viera because it has an IPS panel as well as a number of other things that supposedly push it well over the Samsung in quality.

As for lighting, I can control it completely.

What is the general consensus here?

Man, I thought picking a TV now that I have the money would've been easy.

I had a 55C630 and put many hours on it. The image is great, it's responsive for games, I played Call of Duty online with no problem. My only real gripe with the TV was that sometimes when certain light sources hit the glossy screen you'd sometimes see a rainbow effect. However, this happens with a lot of the high gloss screens now days.

Quote:
Originally Posted by codyred View Post

Hi,

I'm new here. I recently bought the Samsung LN46C630 which I decided to return because movies have the artificial (SOE) soap opera effect. It has some great qualities however, for example live sports. I've researched this tv and tried all the recommendations to reduce SOE.

Just got a new Panasonic plasma ST30. But now it seems so dim by comparison. I was afraid this would happen after the vibrant Samsung. I became so used to (seduced) by the brightness of the LCD, that by comparison, the Panny plasma seems dim, though having high PQ. In case I don't keep the Panny, is there an LCD where the SOE can be adjusted to make movie viewing more like a major motion picture and not a tv show? From my research online, there seems to be no LCD without SOE.

Thanks

The soap opera effect is a result of Samsung's Auto-Motion. You could have disabled it and the image would run normal again and you can disable it on any TV if you notice the effect. It's right in the TV's picture adjustments.
post #6014 of 6231
Hi guys,

I have recently decided to use my LN46C650 with a HP Pavilion dm1z notebook I bought, using the HDMI out on the notebook.

Unfortunately, whenever I set my resolution to 1080p, the picture on the TV is slightly cut off along the edges. I can manually dial down the resolution bit by bit until the picture fits using the graphics properties on the notebook, but frankly the picture looks like crap and doesn't maintain aspect ratio until I hit 1600x900.

Has anyone had similar problems using and HTPC? I have tried 2 different HDMI ports on the TV with the same result.
post #6015 of 6231
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

The soap opera effect is a result of Samsung's Auto-Motion. You could have disabled it and the image would run normal again and you can disable it on any TV if you notice the effect. It's right in the TV's picture adjustments.
Thanks MrEastSide, but I made adjustments recommended in the various av forum threads including turning off Auto-Motion, but that did not remedy the "soap opera affect." Major movies continued to look similar to video camera or tv show quality. I wish it had been as easy as disabling Samsung's Auto-Motion. I researched the various forums and tried several different adjustments recommended for Samsung's Picture and Advance Settings. All failed.
post #6016 of 6231
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Originally Posted by SEALBoy89 View Post

Hi guys,

I have recently decided to use my LN46C650 with a HP Pavilion dm1z notebook I bought, using the HDMI out on the notebook.

Unfortunately, whenever I set my resolution to 1080p, the picture on the TV is slightly cut off along the edges. I can manually dial down the resolution bit by bit until the picture fits using the graphics properties on the notebook, but frankly the picture looks like crap and doesn't maintain aspect ratio until I hit 1600x900.

Has anyone had similar problems using and HTPC? I have tried 2 different HDMI ports on the TV with the same result.

Common problem on more than just Samsung sets.

You gotta use HDMI slot 1 and label the source "PC" to get 1:1 pixel mapping. Do that and revert back to 1920x1080 on your notebook for the second monitor.
post #6017 of 6231
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Originally Posted by 00 agent View Post

Common problem on more than just Samsung sets.

You gotta use HDMI slot 1 and label the source "PC" to get 1:1 pixel mapping. Do that and revert back to 1920x1080 on your notebook for the second monitor.

i use the tv as a pc an just fix that with the catalyst thing it always fits perect at 1920 1080 lcd's a n led's dont have problems as pc monitors if someone tells u that they dont know crap about computers
post #6018 of 6231
Is there a way to skip to a specific time when playing videos from the flash drive?
post #6019 of 6231
Hi guys;
I am new at forum also new owner of 46c630.
I want to ask; when i set motion plus to standart setting, whatever i watch as source fullscreen (like tv show or 720p from usb in mode 2 etc), at top of screen like 2 cm area makes corruption or pixellated image.Like in end credits movies when text comes that area its becames corrupted/pixellated.
If the image is still or if i choose off as setting motion plus there is no problem at all.
Do you think if my panel is defective? Or somebody else can confirm is that a common thing in this model?

And since it isnt my native language sorry about my english
post #6020 of 6231
Quote:
Originally Posted by 00 agent View Post

Common problem on more than just Samsung sets.

You gotta use HDMI slot 1 and label the source "PC" to get 1:1 pixel mapping. Do that and revert back to 1920x1080 on your notebook for the second monitor.

Thanks. I managed to get the proper resolution working by selecting "Screen Fit" instead of "16:9".

However, it's still a pretty low quality image with lots of jaggies and off-colors and compression artifacts and input lag that I can't get rid of by tinkering with either the TV settings or the Catalyst Control Center on my laptop.

Again, when I set the resolution to 1600x900 the image displays perfectly - colors are great, no artifacts, and no input lag. If I dial the resolution down to 720p, I get all the problems back. It only seems to work at this one resolution.

If anyone has any insight configuring an HTPC with this TV, please let me know. Thanks for all the help!
post #6021 of 6231
is there a trick to getting playon to work for a 630? I have my dnla setup and i can see the playon folders, plugins and whatnot, but when I select the files, I get "not supported file format

thanks
post #6022 of 6231
Quote:
Originally Posted by SEALBoy89 View Post

Thanks. I managed to get the proper resolution working by selecting "Screen Fit" instead of "16:9".

However, it's still a pretty low quality image with lots of jaggies and off-colors and compression artifacts and input lag that I can't get rid of by tinkering with either the TV settings or the Catalyst Control Center on my laptop.

Again, when I set the resolution to 1600x900 the image displays perfectly - colors are great, no artifacts, and no input lag. If I dial the resolution down to 720p, I get all the problems back. It only seems to work at this one resolution.

If anyone has any insight configuring an HTPC with this TV, please let me know. Thanks for all the help!

ATI card I take it then? I'd check to make sure the Windows settings and ATI settings line up. I know my old one used to throw fits when they didn't. As for anything else, if it still doesn't work with what I posted above, I'm not sure what the deal is. Maybe check into some ATI forums?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricobico View Post

is there a trick to getting playon to work for a 630? I have my dnla setup and i can see the playon folders, plugins and whatnot, but when I select the files, I get "not supported file format

thanks

What format are you telling playon to output? Make sure it is a format that the TV can take.
post #6023 of 6231
Update: Samsung tech came today and replaced the main board. Unfortunately the problem still exists! The tech saw what I was talking about and said to keep the newer board in there, and he will ask his boss / consult with Samsung about what to do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopaloop View Post

Hey Josh,
I just had that EXACT problem on my ln46c610 set (also and A panel). I would get outrageous smearing in people's faces as they walked if there was a dimly lit scene or shadows (eg. golfers faces due to the shadow cast by their hat, person walking down a dimly lit hallway, etc.). There was also just a general lack of detail in the image, especially when there was any sort of motion whatsoever. I arranged a service call through the samsung website and had a tech come and look at it. All they they ended up doing was replace the main board in the back of the tv, and that TOTALLY fixed the problem. AND the picture quality is also 200% better; no more blurring, smearing, there's crisp detail. Pretty sure it was a faulty board from the start. Just set up a service request and ask about having the main board replaced (it's the board that has all of the video inputs on it, HDMI, component, etc.).
Cheers
post #6024 of 6231
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Originally Posted by elucid_one View Post

Update: Samsung tech came today and replaced the main board. Unfortunately the problem still exists! The tech saw what I was talking about and said to keep the newer board in there, and he will ask his boss / consult with Samsung about what to do.

Okay, repair center called back and will suggest to samsung to replace. They said this problem was common to this model and to ask for a new model!
post #6025 of 6231
Really need your help

Uploaded 4 video file 2*720p and 2*1080p (15-20 sec duration).

http://www.2shared.com/video/NoQ-MPCz/V721.html
http://www.2shared.com/video/gaDutgIK/V722.html
http://www.2shared.com/video/KhTjuA_K/V1081.html
http://www.2shared.com/video/XDGEjReY/V1082.html

Can you pls playback them from usb at these settings;

(Video 721 and 722 : picture format " mode 2 " / motion plus " standart "
Video 1081 and 1082 : picture format " original or mode 1 " / motion plus " standart ")

and tell me, if you getting any corruption, pixelation or blurring when txt leaving screen at top like inside 2 cm area?

Trying to find is that a common problem or is it only my screen?
post #6026 of 6231
Did anyone tried the D-Link DWA-140 as a Wireless Network adapter into any C model TV? I have a 55C650 model.
If anyone tried and is working, please post also the firmware (revision) of the wireless adapter.

Thank you.
post #6027 of 6231
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Originally Posted by djmuzi View Post

Wtf, you can allwasy see that a CCFL tv is on. Or the dimming is too agressive. Or you have switched the tv off

Sitting in an unlit room at night my screen is amazingly black. You can only see that it's on after your eyes have adjusted for a little bit. This is the best blacks I have ever seen on an LCD. I had at first thought the backlight had gone off.
post #6028 of 6231
Quote:
Originally Posted by keithw1975

Sitting in an unlit room at night my screen is amazingly black. You can only see that it's on after your eyes have adjusted for a little bit. This is the best blacks I have ever seen on an LCD. I had at first thought the backlight had gone off.
Umm...interesting!
I haven't followed you previous posts,so I don't know whether you've got a c630 or c650. So if it's a c650,will ya post your settings so I can check it out?
post #6029 of 6231
I have the 46" c630 with the AA06 panel. I am using the following settings:

Picture Mode: MOVIE
Backlight: 4 (to achieve ~115 cd/m2 peak luminance – set this according to your viewing environment)
Contrast: 94
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 0 for HD content, 20-30 for SD
Colour: 50
Tint: Neutral (50/50)

Advanced:
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Shadow Detail: 0
Gamma: +1
Colour Space: Custom (see settings below)
Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancer: Off

CMS Settings (R / G / B):
Red: 50 0 0
Green: 25 55 0
Blue: 0 14 71
Yellow: 52 52 0
Cyan: 24 52 54
Magenta: 43 9 55

White Balance:
Offset (R,G,B): 28, 25, 24
Gain (R,G,B): 19, 26, 24

10p White Balance: ON
Interval 1 (R,G,B): 2 0 0
2: 0 0 -1
3: 0 0 -1
4: -1 0 -1
5: 0 0 0
6: 1 0 0
7: 0 0 -1
8: 0 1 -2
9: 0 2 -2
10: 0 2 -3

Picture Options screen:
Colour Tone: Warm1
Aspect Ratio: Screen Fit for 1080i/1080p, according to source otherwise
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: depends on source, “Low” for video devices
Film Mode: Auto 1 or Auto 2 depending on content
Motion Plus: Custom, Blur Reduction: 10, Judder Reduction: 0

I have noticed that when there is a black screen, such as between commercials, it gets dark then gets pitch black like the light shuts off. I have seen it do this over and over. What's odd though is if I go up and tap the screen with my knuckle while it is like this I do get a burst of light to shine through. This tells me the light is still on but that it has some type of ultra deep black mode that it can go into when it detects that the screen has nothing on it. If I simply push my info button or do anything that causes any type of image then you can see the blacks get slightly brighter. Even then though it is amazingly good and really impresses me.
post #6030 of 6231
LC46C630K1F 630 I think our TV's gone into store mode for no reason, how can we take it out? Sound and channel options are "disabled" (greyed out). And the TV melody is set to medium when I want it off -- but can't change it.
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