Official Samsung LNXXC630/C650 Owners Thread - Page 30

whats your expeience with 46c630 and samsung bd c6500 blue ray player

Every set is different and the factory blue push was extreme on my TV so you never know how the calibrated numbers for my set will work on another. For what it's worth, ChromaPure announced yesterday an upgrade for my colorimeter. I'll be buying the upgrade because I'm more or less locked into Samsung, with a probable PN58C8000 purchase coming up this fall plus I already have a HL67A750 at my other residence. With the upgrade I should be able to get more accurate readings when I return to Florida in late October.

Part of the ChromaPure upgrade announcement:

Our experience has shown that the Chroma 5's accuracy is reasonably consistent when reading CRTs, plasmas, and front projector screens. The biggest problem by far lies with LCDs. Using the Standard mode the Chroma 5 may read one LCD very accurately and yet be considerably off on another. There simply is no consistency when reading LCDs. Contrary to one widely-repeated myth, this is not an issue directly related to the difference between CCFL backlit and LED backlit displays. Some LED displays actually give the Chroma 5 less trouble than their CCFL counterparts. Also, the Chroma 5 can maintain considerably different levels of accuracy when comparing two CCFL displays. The problem isn't with LED backlighting. The problem is LCDs period.
To address this problem, the Chroma 5 PRO will ship with 5 different LCD modes:
Generic LCD
Samsung Standard
Samsung LED
Sony Standard
Sony LED
We may add additional LCD modes as needed.
This means that the Chroma 5 PRO will ship with a total of eight operating modes: the five LCD modes listed above, plus
CRT
Plasma
Front Projection

Buzz

To anyone who is using a harmony with this tv, is there a way to program a button to turn game mode off/on? I don't have one, but I'm getting tired of scrolling through the menu each time to switch it.

You can program in more detailed codes to get the remote to do this, but it's a pain in the ass because you have to tell the remote to open the menu, scroll down how many times, then scroll over, then enter game mode and enable it, then back out, all while keeping the remote pointed at the TV so the remote can issue the commands. It's not worth it, in my opinion. You can't make the remote just do it. The remote still has to be programmed to scroll through the menus just as you have to do yourself, so in the end you're really not making things much easier for yourself.

My Best Buy FINALLY got some 46C630's in but they're all A Panels. Should I go ahead and get one? Are A Panels really that much worse than S Panels?

congrats on no stuck pixels, i tried 3 times..had 4 or more on each tv i tried..so i just stuck with the last one that has 4 stuck green ones throughout the tv, waiting on a panel replacement i guess, tired of taking tv's back and forth and scared to end up with something worse. dont look too hard at your new tv! i thought i had it right with this last tv and then it got dark and i got too close to the screen and saw 4 when i thought there was none!

For those interested, I recently reviewed the European version, the LE40C650, which I understand is very similar to the US model:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsu...0100506527.htm

Man! That's bad. When I brought the first one back, I decided in my mind that if the second one had any problems I would just get a refund and go back to the CRT.

I've looked at a black screen several times closely and can't find a problem. And this so-called black screen lights up more than enough to find your way around at night with the lights out.

It's funny how the C630 has a LAN connection, cos there only seems to be 2 things you can do with it: update the software or test your internet connection. LOL.

Great review its nice to finally see a review on this set. Thanks alot!

Excellent review. Thanks for posting it.

Buzz

So I have rebates which allow me to get either one of these TV's for about the same price. (just under $100 difference)

LN40C630 or LN46C610

My plan is to either get the LN40C630 and put in the bedroom or to move my current 42" Sharp to the bedroom and get the LN46C610 for the living room.

I've been reading about the C630 in this thread. However I don't know much about the C610, other than its supposedly last years model.

Any suggestions/advice on these?

FYI - sorry if I posted this in the wrong thread, but could not find anything on C610

Are the laggy video game performances on the C630 really as bad as users have complained they are, or is it an overblown issue?

Just wondering cuz this TV looks nice to me.

I think the primary use is streaming media via DLNA. It has an interface to access photos, videos, and music on your network. Supports a wide variety of codecs also.

It depends on the game. For RPGs and the like, it won't make too much of a difference. For games requiring fast reflexes like first-person shooters, it will be quite apparent. At least, that's the case for me.

Thanks for the comments also guys!

Guess I need to look elsewhere

Is there a way to make SAMSUNG PC Share Manager work on hulu or YouTube with the LN40C630?

Hello everyone! I've been a long-timer lurker but decided to talk about my purchase of a new set to replace a 32" Panasonic Gaoo that I've been using for about ten years. So reading through this thread (and other threads here on the forum) was very helpful in allowing me to determine what would be the best set for me!

I've always been a fan of Samsung's ToC series, having owned the T220HD and T240HD, so when I decided it was time for a new tv I naturally looked up the 2010 LCD lineup as it became available in my area of Toronto over the past few months. I settled on a regular LCD set, since I didn't think I would be able to utilize 3D at all that much, and I worried about problems people were having with their LED choices.

The LN55C630 seemed to be the perfect balance of compromise between old and new, so I went and picked that up today. Not sure if I'm allowed to discuss pricing and vendor, but I will say that it was just under 2K, which was exactly my budget.

Now, I know I've been spoiled by CRT, but I have to say that I'm pretty blown away by the PQ on this tv. The panel is SQ01, Made In Mexico, March 2010. It was pretty well-wrapped in the box, had protective factory taping on the screen... I peeled it all off, and it was flawless with no scratches. Close inspection of the screen on a various bunch of black and white and solid color backgrounds revealed a tiny little bit of clouding in the bottom right corner, but it's totally unnoticeable with an image on the screen. No broken or stuck pixels whatsoever. So that was a great relief.

I took some settings from the LNXXC630 calibration thread (thanks buzzard767) and backed the backlight down a bit to a 5. I'll continue to play with it more, but the picture is already looking pretty good. Only have analog cable at the moment, but the picture is more than passable. I connected my ASUS 1000HE netbook up via the VGA and it looks stunning. No input lag that I could perceive that was detrimental to my play experience. I mean, I played some UT and Frontier Wars, and the display is as sharp as my Dell 2407 monitor... which was kind of shocking because now I'm considering making this 55" my main monitor. Tried out my PS3 via HDMI and watched Avatar Blu-Ray and pretty well lost my mind. I will never turn on my Gaoo again.

Later tonight I'm going to drag my computer over and hook it up with a DVI to HDMI adapter and see how more modern games look, like Fallout3 and Borderlands. Forgot to ask the salesperson about the wireless LAN adapter for this Samsung, but since I'm plugging a PC directly to it, I guess I don't really need one.

I'm really happy I went with a 55" model. Even though it was quite a bit more expensive than the 46" those extra inches really do give the big screen experience! If you're on the fence like I was, just bite the bullet and go for the extra real estate... you definitely won't regret it! As for me, I'm very happy with this Samsung set, and absolutely thrilled to be watching high definition at last.

Everything was sounding great until....
" Even with all of its digital noise filters turned off, the Samsung LE40C650 still applies some light temporal smoothing to the image, which means that the texture of film grain is lessened when the image is in motion (the unadulterated image can be seen when the source player is paused). You can also disable this “feature” by enabling the TV’s Game mode (as this mode cuts out as much processing as possible), but this introduces 60hz motion judder with film material,, but could find no way of doing so. Only the most observant viewers will notice the processing, but this does not change the fact that “Off” should mean “OFF”."

OH no.....

UGH this sounds like a problem the xx71's had that took almost three years for a firmware revision to fix (and even at that you had to special order the unreleased firmware that fixes this and htey never even bothered to advertise its existence).


EDIT: while it might do some DNR thing that you are talking about, I don't know yet, haven't looked carefully enough for that, the US version, at the least, doesn't do the thing I was thinking of.

You mean a credible review.

This one provides a nice contrast to the one cited earlier in the thread, from the site with poor presentation, and amateurish writing that serves to undermine what they have to say, valid or not. Not to mention the factual errors in their 630 review alone.

The C610 is a 2010 model, as are all C-series Samsungs.

You can download the owner's manual from Samsung, which covers both the 610 and 630, to see if any differences exist.

Last year's B610, which was a warehouse special, had a different bezel and was missing a minor feature or two compared to the B630.

I don't know if Samsung has continued that method of model differentiation with the C610/630; you'll have to verify that for yourself.

For me, the larger screen size would trump whatever minor feature may have been omitted on the 610, but that's a personal call.

Per chance, which retailer is carrying the C610?

Looks like Im going to get the LN55C630 from BB early this week- its been between this one and the Panny S2 Plasma and Samsung C550 plasma. Looks like this Samsung is the way to go- Ive been weary about the plasmas.

Visions Electronics

Mike' I am not getting something here.
On the 46B750 SQ01, is it the Good Highly Detailed/Resolving Panel ?
Is it the same on The 46C750 ??
No B650s or C650s have it ?

The US model is likely to be exactly the same
I was ready to slap a "Highly Recommended" on it until I caught it doing this. Last year's ultra-thin Samsung LED LCDs did this too only even worse, so I'm always on the lookout for it.

Did this problem exist on the B650s or B750s ?

I don't think so, from memory. In fact, if my memory is correct, those older TVs also had lower input lag than their 2010 replacements. It would seem that the 2010 models are using some sort of new revision of video processing chip which first appeared in the ultra-slim sets, which is doing temporal smoothing, has higher input lag, etc.

Really ? that is interesting to say the least.
The question is if it affects both the C650s & c750s the same ?
Do you know ?

Stuff like this is why it's so hard to make a damn DECISION. It's the panel version, the settings, the rising blacks, the graphs and charts, the firmware...

If it's not one thing, it's something else. How much can we possibly measurebate over these things? LOL. Just enjoy the TV!

i also noticed i have weird lines around the edge of the picture..especially when it is in letterbox mode, but even full screen has it too..at the bottom and top its some weird strip that is lighter than the rest of the picture going across the top and bottom of the picture..it also has it on the sides but easier to notice on top and bottom..i thought it was the reflection from the bezel but it isnt..this tv is all sorts of screwed up..hope a panel replacement will fix all this crap..ill take pictures and post later

I hear ya. My 46c630 doesn't seem to have any of the issues people are complaining about. I am in also looking to buy a 55" but I'm scared that odds are I'm going to get one with some sort of issue