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post #31 of 159
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Originally Posted by 42041 View Post

Here's a thought: if Petersen's never seen the US Blu-Ray, and he saw the previous home video releases, maybe he assumed the colors are the same as the previous releases, hence wanting to "work on them", but unbeknown to him, Warner has already fixed them

Or he wanted to do a special colorization ala Troy? I wonder if he even remember self how to colors are supposed to look if he hasnt seen the theatrical copy for years.

The most important stuff for me is that they stay true to the orginal movies look. (How it looked in theaters, not how it looked on video)

It would be fun if we could get some inside knowledge what they did for this release. Its not Warners style to create a new look for a movie without the directors cooperation. That makes me believe that the colors are right but the contrastboost may give it a little to much color.
post #32 of 159
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Originally Posted by BsRoz View Post

Xylon, any chance you could compare some shots to the ones I posted of the Dutch blu-ray?

I'd like to see how it holds up to the American version and dvd.

I have the 2008 Dutch Blu-ray release also and would definitely like to see what the differences between it and this newer Warner release are, if any.
post #33 of 159
Was Jost Vacano or any other person involved with the production of this film involved with the transfer?
post #34 of 159
Xylon, I've taken the liberty to use your screenshots in a comparison with the Dutch version here:

http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/...2131/picture:0

I couldn't get an exact matching frame in some shots, as the framing seems to differ quite a bit between the versions.
post #35 of 159
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Thanks for your effort.

I will update this thread with the Dutch version
post #36 of 159
This is depressing. This movie is actually on TV right now, and my daughter is watching it; it is in SD and filled with artifacts and is 4:3; it's horrible. I had the DVD but it's been scratched to hell so it's been quite some time since I've seen this, but I've always loved this film. After a quick trip to IMDB, I saw the article with Wolfgang Peterson & how he wasn't even told about the Blu Ray release... that's so sad.

Those of you who have the dutch blu ray mentioned in the thread, is it playable in north america/ps3?

42041 -- This is a fantastic children's story; it's one I grew up with and have owned on beta, vhs & dvd, following me along through the years. It's not a perfect movie or story (and in my personal opinion, the sequels should be ignored) but it is great & I think that if you like fantasy you might like this. I consider it a classic.
post #37 of 159
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Originally Posted by geekyglassesgirl View Post

Those of you who have the dutch blu ray mentioned in the thread, is it playable in north america/ps3?

I have the Dutch release and it does play on my US PS3.
post #38 of 159
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Originally Posted by Louisville S View Post

I have the Dutch release and it does play on my US PS3.

Thank you!
post #39 of 159
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Originally Posted by geekyglassesgirl View Post

Thank you!

Just bear in mind that the Dutch transfer has its own issues. Little black and white speckles flicker on the image almost constantly; it doesn't show up well in screenshots but in motion it is very visible. The Dutch color is also yet again different, as shown in this comparison shot I put up in the old thread.



The US BD does have a very harsh orange cast in some shots, and in my comparison above the US equivalent to the blue and green is just a darker orange. It's also extremely dark overall -- I don't know what the intent of the film-makers was, but it seems a reasonable assumption that the movie wasn't supposed to look like it was taking place in the middle of the night. That said, I found that once I compensated for it in the projector's brightness setting the resulting image was in some ways preferable to the Dutch disc. Neither of the released BDs are really ideal, though.

I also agree with Xylon that the LFE level in the opening and closing credits is absurd. As I said in another thread, my buttkickers were going nuts and the shaking didn't even seem to be in time with the music.
post #40 of 159
After viewing the two versions, I've decided to stick with the dutch BD. U.S version is not easy to the eyes especially on the darker scenes(whether this is intentional or not by Warner to update the film's look) Yes folks, the dutch BD is the one to get; the pepper and sand sprinkled over some of the scenes doesn't bother me at all)
post #41 of 159
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this picture is taken 1 block from where i live.
post #42 of 159
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Originally Posted by vancouver View Post

this picture is taken 1 block from where i live.

For anyone curious: it's the intersection of Water St. and Cambie St. in Vancouver, looking South. I managed to find it in Google maps the other week during an unrelated discussion of films shot in Vancover (which regularly doubles for other cities in movies). At the time I had to look around in the satellite images to find it, but I noticed while watching the BD that you can pretty much read it right off the street signs.
post #43 of 159
http://image54.webshots.com/154/1/77...2GhZwuR_ph.jpg


This is apperently what it should look like.
post #44 of 159
Wow. Perhaps they brought in someone that was color blind?
post #45 of 159
Bluray.com has given the PQ a glowing review.
post #46 of 159
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post #47 of 159
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All posts updated with the EU Dutch release. All future pix will have the Dutch relase.
post #48 of 159
So I guess it's the import for the win. How does the soundtrack compare to the enhanced for lowriders US release?
post #49 of 159
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Originally Posted by Kram Sacul View Post

So I guess it's the import for the win. How does the soundtrack compare to the enhanced for lowriders US release?

It's definitely not as bass-heavy. After I watched the US version I put in the Dutch one specifically to compare the LFE level, and there was little-to-no buttkicker action in the opening song. There's definitely some LFE in the film itself but it's much milder than the US mix. I didn't compare the rest of the audio.

I'm pretty sure the US dialogue has also been tweaked to some degree -- as I mentioned elsewhere I could clearly hear a word or two when Bastian was whispering in the last scene, and I don't recall that being the case for any other version that I've seen.
post #50 of 159
Xylon, I don't what is causing this, but on my display your screenshots seem to display a slight red-push as opposed to mine.

I've been taking my screenshots (MPC, Haali, FFdshow) the same way for quite some time now, and I've never had any differences (also regarding BT.601/BT.709) with the generally accurate sites such as Land of Whimsy.

I hope it's not a problem on my side.
post #51 of 159
God, the new version looks ****ed up.
post #52 of 159
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Originally Posted by mike2060 View Post

God, the new version looks ****ed up.

Actually if you look at the picturelink I posted some posts ago, you can see that the new version may actually be more true to the source.

The Auryn should be gold and green, and on the earlier versions it is not.
post #53 of 159
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

Actually if you look at the picturelink I posted some posts ago, you can see that the new version may actually be more true to the source.

The Auryn should be gold and green, and on the earlier versions it is not.

That picture by dododge is of the Dutch version.
post #54 of 159
so dutch bluray=the way it was most likely meant to be seen but with some occasional specks of damage and dirt

us bluray=the movie with a spray tan viewed through sunglasses
post #55 of 159
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Originally Posted by BsRoz View Post

That picture by dododge is of the Dutch version.

Thank you, I missed that. But it still show us that the DVD colors are very wrong.
post #56 of 159
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Originally Posted by AmishFury View Post

so dutch bluray=the way it was most likely meant to be seen but with some occasional specks of damage and dirt

us bluray=the movie with a spray tan viewed through sunglasses

That depends on how it looked in theaters. Its not uncommon that they do desaturate video transfers, because of the mediums problem of handling red as good as filmstocks.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post10266062
post #57 of 159
i'd agree if we were talking the difference between the dutch bluray and the dvd but not the difference between the 2 blurays

even if the movie was meant to be a little more orange in some scenes it's not the "spray tan the whole image" effect we're seeing on the US bluray

anyway this brings up the question... where can one even find the dutch bluray to purchase?
post #58 of 159
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Originally Posted by AmishFury View Post

i'd agree if we were talking the difference between the dutch bluray and the dvd but not the difference between the 2 blurays

even if the movie was meant to be a little more orange in some scenes it's not the "spray tan the whole image" effect we're seeing on the US bluray

Without access to the source its hard to know. But what I do know is that its more common that they remove colors for a videotransfer then actually adding them.

Unless the one handling this went gung ho on the transfer.
post #59 of 159
Remember seeing this when I was a child at the cinema, might have even been the first film I saw at the flicks.

Never knew it was a German film, was it English language or was it German -> English dubbed?
post #60 of 159
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Originally Posted by BenUK View Post

Remember seeing this when I was a child at the cinema, might have even been the first film I saw at the flicks.

Never knew it was a German film, was it English language or was it German -> English dubbed?

It must have been english language since they use english/american actors.

Its not "uncommon" that europeans film is filmed in english in hope for broader market success.
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