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That sucks. I'm sure you'll still do a kick butt cinemascope theater and although it will still be high-end by most standards, I was really looking forward to seeing how you were going to push the envelope in 3D with 4K. I'm hoping someone else (with far richer pockets than me ) signs up for one of these.
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I already have the moon name picked: ALBIORIX with the ethimology ALBIO (World) and Rix (King) "The King Of Th world" a celtic equivalent of Mars the God of War, human sacrifices were made to appease it and it is the protector God of what is now the modern French Riviera. Seems he did a very good job nurturing the "Cote D'Azur" over the centuries....
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Extremely pleased with the Calibre Cinema 2k scaler with detail and unsharp mask, also deinterlacing DirecTV is quite excellent.

Only problem would be for DirecTV 3d (which is 720p side by side) , you would need dual scalers.

The server case for the nerve center running the Barco communicator software via Touch Screen is wonderful to use.

Shown Underneath the what will be a 2 Terabyte DirecTV Hr-24.






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post #34 of 425
Congrats on the Calibre. An excellent VP that goes over looked by consumers. Because its target is the commercial market the average J6P may miss some features but the overall picture quality ( and thats what counts here ) produced by this VP is first class. It also spits out 10bit.
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Their pricing is also first class, much higher than for instance TVOne. Was comparing the simple blending boxes.
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I will not go into detail discussions about the audio system at the moment, needless to say it is in flux.



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OT: Speaking about Saturn Moons, these are the most beautiful recent images.
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Congrats on the Calibre. An excellent VP that goes over looked by consumers. Because its target is the commercial market the average J6P may miss some features but the overall picture quality ( and thats what counts here ) produced by this VP is first class. It also spits out 10bit.

Yes Alan the image quality improvements over the excellent ti internal scaler are quite easy to see, from removing the softness of avatar to an amazing very enjoyable improvement on direcTV.

There are some minor issues, like when navigating through the menus of the dune every once in a blue moon where the image all of a sudden become like a 30 year old 8 bit video game with Pong like resolution graphics. I will need to reboot this with the crestron and do not know if after a hard reboot with ac power, if i can even restart the unit, or if it happens automatically. They may have to upgrade their Ip control for this, otherwise I am extremely pleased.

The scaler is amazing Like I have said before contrary to popular lore, pixel by pixel mapping DOES NOT LOOK BEST with the Barco, the full 2048 wide rescaling looks more authentic.
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HEADS ROLL>>>
In order to obtain greater peace of mind with the electronics we are continuing with the all digital path design but we are looking for zero clicks and pops so ...

The entire sound system just becomes one line item now.
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Skoll is a retro job. The builder Coastal Construction build most of the celebrity and high profile homes in South Florida. I worked with them back in 1996 on the D. Marino rear-pro cinema (TELESTO: the anecdotally accurate 13th Moon Of Saturn source from where the concept of large rear projection became the model for the stage redesign of the Oprah Show in 1997 with the big reaprojection smack in the middle of the set- later rearpro migrated form day talk show to late night talk shows from Leno it became staple in every late night television shows). Your'e very welcome American Television Networks.



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This I beam was a big contention point impeding the optimum placement of the projector, the builder just cut the cement beam above and pushed it up as far as the structural engineers would permit.

Now the dp2k-30c-SK will be installed upside down ported out the back.



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And there is Mike Chafee the number one genelec rep in the world and acoustician and expert room tuner. Everyone in Florida uses mike to tune their systems , regardless of systems.[Discussing projectyor noise and projector panel access sound insulation to floor above)

Also Carlos Puello the expert electromechanical cad renderer guy that is doing such a sterling job here, the SoHo House reaprojection 3-D models and soon hopefully the Albiorix project which is inside the most spectacular house of the future designed by the first woman super-architect (one of the top 2 women architects in the world).

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The reflections of the screen need to be eliminated they appear as a giant plasma. Turns out in order to have screen transparency the program uses a simulated glass. These cad programs need to add woven screens to their surface arsenal.




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post #44 of 425
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Well maybe in Albiorix we can, because the lenses from ISCO (i mean the non anamorphic) are a sight to behold. They will only work with the 1.2-1.3754k platform. I had to have the man take it out of the case.



This thing weighed like 30-40 pounds; the heaviest lens ever.





Over at 3-D alley the nec projector was the best in show with a very compact reald z-screen attachment certainly something to consider if I can get around the perforated silver screen problem.



This image is completely unrelated and off topic.

Those little buggers hanging above the booth are a combination of powered speakers and microphones, using some serious dsp the system adjusted the acoustical properties from dry and intimate to larger more reverberant and several other highly complex and very lifelike algorithms. When these guys enter the home cinema arena everybody else better watch out.



I enjoyed this demo the most even though I was in excruciating pain and had a nurse on my way from falling at the Barco booth.
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The Kaleidescape BD Vault is my conceptual , I know it will hold 200-250 Blu-rays being 5 Rack Units high.



There is a 4300 KV sine wave smart switched UPS, beats having 3 1250 crestrons.
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if I can get around the perforated silver screen problem.

Peter Im running a 10 foot Severtson Silver screen ( real-D certified ) in a small screening room and they are about to release their micro perf which I am considering.
What is it you did not like and were the perfs the standard .04 cinema perfs? You need to be at least 40 feet away before they start to disappear. Any closer and that would be visually annoying.

Thanks Peter.
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Hi Alan, The ones I have seen are the cinema made by harkness and MPI? .

The Percival zone of comfort is the stereoscopic real estate between you nose and the very back of the parallax perspective all the way 20 feet behind the screen. Within that zone is that all the 3-D action occurs. I like to see nothing blocking the action, with these silver screens there is mottling (a word you taught me) and there is a cheese grater effect, like where the perforations are punched they stick out a bit giving it a half hazard consistency, that pretty much gives the effect of installing a Badminton net in the middle of a space, you can see who is in the other side, but the zone is split by this net. I say the perforations on silver screens coupled with the mottling totally break up the Percival zone of comfort illusion.

A woven white screen would not cause this, but it will not work with RealD so I am very interested to see what you find out.

Cheers,
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Mottling over spray can be a problem and varies with each manufactures. Compounded with perf texture I can see why you were distracted. The Severtson I have and a Hurley I recently installed did not exhibit the Mottling. Strange in that you will only see this with fixed pixel displays. Projecting film on that same screen and mottling is not an issue.
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That is why Harkness showed on solids only, and it was very nice although the sound was crap and badly imaging (some pa speakers grittly playing from uneven off side points).

The seams are an issue with the harkness hall.
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Cineramax: Regarding the volume control -- it was yanked from the TacT Milennium, not from the TCS. The Milennium is the original concept by Peter Lyngdorf and this is where the massive volume control knob first was implemented some 10+ years ago (1998 I think).

I think Steinberg places the volume control in the dead center of the amp -- this is where it is on the Milennium too.
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Hello,

This theater design is truly extraordinary. I would have loved to have seen the full 4K projector with UK designed pro speakers, bur I know that working with Peter Lyngdorf the sound in this theater is going to be astonishing. I have had the good fortune to spend some time in Peter's company a few years ago and he is a real gentleman to deal with, but has a staggeringly sharp mind and he was discussing concepts with me about where he would like to take surround sound processors and room correction which were years ahead of what the silicon and R&D funding would allow him to do.

The whole project looks like it will be stunning when it is finished, but one design decision has intrigued me. You mentioned in a previous post you were building a HTPC using 8 X 1 TB SSD's. Why did you choose to go with the 8 TB SSD storage system instead of using a remotely located NAS? A remote NAS could easily give you more than 20TB of RAID protected storage for less than you're looking at for the SSD's alone, it would still be more than fast enough to stream the movie over 1 Gb/s network cabling, and would give you the security of redundancy, not to mention lower cost expansion.

Thanks and best wishes,

Dave
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This thing needs to be goldplated, who could stand greasy paws on anything Steinway, LOL.
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It is all about the maximum bang for the buck, I changed my mind again...

Did I say how amazing the Meyer-GALAXY Architectural VARIO ACOUSTICAL DIMENSIONING SOUNDED when I nerly broke my neck at the Barco booth?



I am back to the drawing board Consequence or Meyer?
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I have been traveling far and wide listening at options, let me tell you something there is nothing like Dynaudio for front channels, due to room isolation needs we are going with the genelec surrounds (which sound awfully close to the Dyn sound) and the f212 subs.

Could not get to pull the trigger on anything else. Sorry!

The consequence ultimates will be powered with 1800 watts from 3 Krell 900E's.









We will be reducing the rear soffits next...


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Barring some unforeseen Laser development from the left field THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY THING TO HAPPEN TO HT in 2011 is the DCI TI 4K chips used to watch up-converted frame quadrupled 1080p. You heard right.

These new drawings reflect the larger projector...
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These are the latest rounds of shop drawings, still evolving wall treatment appliqués shown as 1" not so. Projector short back wall section to be moved back allowing projector to go up and back, ventilation not shown for equipment closet and projector intake, the more detail you get the more questions arise.










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Peter, interesting choice of subs' I didn't know you were a fan of JL Audio.. why not the gotham 213g
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Hi, space restrictions?
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