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post #31 of 4066
3/19/10 at 2:54pm
FYI - I picked up the 55C6500 last night...it's an "S" panel.
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post #32 of 4066
3/19/10 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by quickturtle View Post

FYI - I picked up the 55C6500 last night...it's an "S" panel.

I'm glad for you...it will probably turn out that the "C" panels are only on the 6300. Have you checked out the off-angle viewing to see if you're getting any wash-out?

Ken
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post #33 of 4066
3/20/10 at 12:36am
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t will probably turn out that the "C" panels are only on the 6300.

I asked Samsung on their german twitter account about that and they confirmed it (for the european models).

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Originally Posted by quickturtle View Post

FYI - I picked up the 55C6500 last night...it's an "S" panel.

Impressions would be very nice
thx

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See my post # 20 above. The feature you are referring to is called "ECO Saver." And yes, it can be turned off. As you'll read in that post, I believe in theory it's a good feature, but unless you bring it's min. backlight setting up, you'll find the auto dimming is just too drastic. You can actually see it dim w/o anything around you such as your ambient lighting getting dimmer.

Thank you
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post #34 of 4066
3/20/10 at 1:33am
Picked up UN40C6400 at Costco. The version says SQ01=S panel. Sorry not very technical, but the picture is wonderful. In the store they had the set right in the middle of all the non-led lcd tv's, you could really see the difference. What surprised me the most is the sound is not bad for flat panel. Had a little flashlighting in right bottom corner, turned down backlight little, seemed to fix it. The only real problem is the reflective screen, messes up the daytime viewing. Would a matte finish instead of reflective finish ruin the picture quality?
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post #35 of 4066
3/20/10 at 2:44am
What I forgot to ask:

1.) How fast are the channel-switches with the integrated DVB-C-Tuner?
2.) How is the PQ on Standard Definition?
3.) Any input lag problems?
4.) How does the automatic aspect ratio (4:3 / 16:9 /..) work?
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post #36 of 4066
3/20/10 at 7:07am
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What I forgot to ask:

1.) How fast are the channel-switches with the integrated DVB-C-Tuner?
2.) How is the PQ on Standard Definition?
3.) Any input lag problems?
4.) How does the automatic aspect ratio (4:3 / 16:9 /..) work?

As to (#1), I can't answer since I have mine going through an A/V processor. To answer (#2), I would say that the PQ is good on SD material. Understanding of course that SD material on an HD set will never be as good as true HD, it's PQ is good. On (#3), if I understand the issues on 'input lag', seems to me this would be more critical to gamers, so I really don't get too concerned with it. (#4), I must be honest & say I was not aware the unit had auto aspect ratio; I thought that was a user setting and it was whatever was set.

Ken
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post #37 of 4066
3/20/10 at 7:13am
Ok, thanks for your answers.
What do you think, you can post new pics
Can't wait ^^
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post #38 of 4066
3/20/10 at 9:47am
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Ok, thanks for your answers.
What do you think, you can post new pics
Can't wait ^^

Will try & do that today with a BD movie. I need to tinker some more with the user settings though. I seem to be getting too much red on close-ups of faces. I don't believe this is a tint issue; probably manual settings that need to be done in Color Space. As you see from my settings above, I have Color Space set to Auto. I'm learning as I go on settings, so I'm not quite sure which settings would lessen the redness. In other words, I know just enough to be dangerous..:-)

Ken
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post #39 of 4066
3/20/10 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by felsi View Post

more pics and of course more impressions would be very nice.

btw. could you please take some pics of the remote?
thx

Here's a pic of the remote you asked about..

Ken
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post #40 of 4066
3/20/10 at 2:09pm
Do these tv's auto-dim like the B6000, B7000/7100, B8000 models where the backlight automatically turns down when the screen is mostly black (when a movie is rolling the credits for example)?
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post #41 of 4066
3/20/10 at 2:51pm
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Do these tv's auto-dim like the B6000, B7000/7100, B8000 models where the backlight automatically turns down when the screen is mostly black (when a movie is rolling the credits for example)?

After doing a little checking on this, I'm not really sure. I know it's not part of it's ECO-Saver feature as that only has to do with the lighting in your room although as I said in an earlier post, it doesn't do a very good job of it. The auto-dimming is so drastic, you are forced to compensate by turning up the backlight or turning the feature off entirely. Maybe someone else can chime in on the auto-dim you are referring to.

Ken
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post #42 of 4066
3/21/10 at 3:34am
Hey folks,

I picked up the Samsung UN40C6400 at my local Costco about two weeks ago in Van Nuys, CA

It's version SQ01.


Looks good so far. I actually came over here to find PQ settings/etc and saw some chatter about what version of screen/panel it had.

So yeah, this "E6400" has an S version panel.

All I know right now is that the picture quality seems light years ahead of my older 46" Bravia that was purchased three years ago. Got to love technology!

If anyone has any questions about it, I'll do my best to answer them!

PS. It seems like this model IS posted on the Samsung website now.
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post #43 of 4066
3/21/10 at 4:27am
Any kind of pics are welcomed
And of course more impressions: flashlights? clouding? blacklevel? PQ? sound quality of the built in speakers? inputlag? ....

Thank you
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post #44 of 4066
3/21/10 at 5:21am
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Originally Posted by langosta View Post

Hey folks,

I picked up the Samsung UN40C6400 at my local Costco about two weeks ago in Van Nuys, CA

I actually came over here to find PQ settings/etc and saw some chatter about what version of screen/panel it had.

So yeah, this "E6400" has an S version panel.

All I know right now is that the picture quality seems light years ahead of my older 46" Bravia that was purchased three years ago. Got to love technology!

Did you see my user settings in post # 20?

Ken
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post #45 of 4066
3/21/10 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by felsi View Post

Any kind of pics are welcomed
And of course more impressions: flashlights? clouding? blacklevel? PQ? sound quality of the built in speakers? inputlag? ....

Thank you

I apologize for not having add'l pics yet, but I'll do my best to post them today. I will tell you though that my 6300 has "Zero" flashlighting/clouding! I did a true test of this last night by pausing a movie between scene changes & for the 1st time noticed just how good it was in that respect. The screen was solid black throughout with not a hint of cloudiness/light anywhere. But as I said in a previous post, one known advantage of "C" panels is that they tend to have minimal or no flashlighting. But the trade-off is poor off-angle viewing.

Ken
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post #46 of 4066
3/21/10 at 5:34am
Yeah, that's why I'm interested in some impressions from a "S"-owner. Maybe Samsung did a good job this time regarding the flashlights. I hope so
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post #47 of 4066
3/21/10 at 7:04am
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If it's anything but a "S" version panel, do not buy it!! Period!! You will regret it.

Ken

Checked my local Costco (they have 40" and 46") and both show 'SQ01' on the label. Good news I guess.

Like the TV, but I want at least 55" model. Has anybody seen one in Costco or the 46" is the max?
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post #48 of 4066
3/21/10 at 7:15am
according to samsung.com there will be a 55"
55C6300 is in stock @ amazon
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post #49 of 4066
3/21/10 at 11:53am
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Checked my local Costco (they have 40" and 46") and both show 'SQ01' on the label. Good news I guess.

Like the TV, but I want at least 55" model. Has anybody seen one in Costco or the 46" is the max?

My local Costco ( Nashua, N.H.) has the un55c6400. I would bet your store will get it soon.
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post #50 of 4066
3/21/10 at 4:29pm
Please see below - My questions and the response from Samsung!!!

Dear xxx,

Thank you for contacting Samsung Electronics.

With reference to your e-mail, we understand that you want to know about new TV model and differences
between the TV models.

We would like to inform you that picture / color issues are fixed by Samsung and there is nothing difference
between the old and new 2010 TV models except few features.

New 2010 TV models are added with additional features like power saving, mega contrast ratio etc.,

However, we would like to inform you that there no differences between the TV models un46c6400 and
un55c6300 except the screen size.

If you require any further information, feel free to contact us.

Thank you,

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Hi,
I just came back from COSTCO and saw your new LED 6400 series TV.
A friend who is very knowledgeable also told me about the 6300 series which is out. I had some questions before i put down so much money on my first big screen tv and would really appreciate it if you can help me make the right choice.

1. How are the 2010 LED tv's different than last years models? Are the problems of too much light in some parts of the screen been resolved?
2. Is the TV able to show perfect whites and blacks?
3. COSTCO had the un46c6400 but your website has two models under the same series, C6400RF and C6400RH - whats different?
4. your site has the UN55c6300 listed which has the same specifications as the UnXXc6400. What are the differences if any between the two?

thanks much,
xxx.
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post #51 of 4066
3/21/10 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by prawn_sandwich View Post

Please see below - My questions and the response from Samsung!!!

Dear xxx,


New 2010 TV models are added with additional features like power saving, mega contrast ratio etc.,

However, we would like to inform you that there no differences between the TV models un46c6400 and
un55c6300 except the screen size.

If you require any further information, feel free to contact us.

Thank you,

Samsung Online Support.
　
Hi,
I just came back from COSTCO and saw your new LED 6400 series TV.
A friend who is very knowledgeable also told me about the 6300 series which is out. I had some questions before i put down so much money on my first big screen tv and would really appreciate it if you can help me make the right choice.

1. How are the 2010 LED tv's different than last years models? Are the problems of too much light in some parts of the screen been resolved?
2. Is the TV able to show perfect whites and blacks?
3. COSTCO had the un46c6400 but your website has two models under the same series, C6400RF and C6400RH - whats different?
4. your site has the UN55c6300 listed which has the same specifications as the UnXXc6400. What are the differences if any between the two?

thanks much,
xxx.

Unfortunately this is a typical Samsung response. His response to your 4th question is ridiculous to say the least. If there's no difference between the 46C6400 & the C6500 except screen size, then he/she is also saying there's no difference between the 55C6300 & 55C6400. If that's so, then why the almost $300 price differential?

Ken
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post #52 of 4066
3/21/10 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by felsi View Post

Ok, thanks for your answers.
What do you think, you can post new pics
Can't wait ^^

Here are (3) more pics. I still don't know what the rainbow-colored light is shooting down from the top, but it's not in the TV's image. It's coming from my camera's flash for some reason.

Ken




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post #53 of 4066
3/22/10 at 10:58am
I'm glad I found this thread, but now I have a decision to make:
Do I get the UN46C6400 from Costco @ $1699 or the UN46B7000 from Newegg @ $1699? The only difference I can see is the Dynamic Contrast Ratio is 4Mil to 1 on the 6400 and 3Mil to 1 on the 7000.

Opinions?
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post #54 of 4066
3/22/10 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by bltst2 View Post

I'm glad I found this thread, but now I have a decision to make:
Do I get the UN46C6400 from Costco @ $1699 or the UN46B7000 from Newegg @ $1699? The only difference I can see is the Dynamic Contrast Ratio is 4Mil to 1 on the 6400 and 3Mil to 1 on the 7000.

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Wow! Tough decision. I saw in a post somewhere where another user said he received a response from Samsung saying there was little difference between the 2009 & 2010 models with the exception of the contrast ratio. (Not sure if I believe that). However since I always tend to lean toward the latest, my choice would be the 2010 model (6400). Particularly since the price is the same. Just my opinion...

Ken
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post #55 of 4066
3/22/10 at 5:32pm
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My local Costco ( Nashua, N.H.) has the un55c6400. I would bet your store will get it soon.

My local Costco now has the 55" 6400 in stock, too. But $2.5K? I'll pass.

Considering that BB has the 6300 for 10% less and the 6500 for $20 more, Costco needs to adjust the price. Probably coupon book item next time around.
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post #56 of 4066
3/22/10 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by bltst2 View Post

I'm glad I found this thread, but now I have a decision to make:
Do I get the UN46C6400 from Costco @ $1699 or the UN46B7000 from Newegg @ $1699? The only difference I can see is the Dynamic Contrast Ratio is 4Mil to 1 on the 6400 and 3Mil to 1 on the 7000.

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Your Costco has the 46" for 1699?
That's another 6" for just $300 more then my 40" one.

Hmmmm.
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post #57 of 4066
3/23/10 at 12:46am
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Originally Posted by bltst2 View Post

I'm glad I found this thread, but now I have a decision to make:
Do I get the UN46C6400 from Costco @ $1699 or the UN46B7000 from Newegg @ $1699? The only difference I can see is the Dynamic Contrast Ratio is 4Mil to 1 on the 6400 and 3Mil to 1 on the 7000.

Opinions?

The 2010 Samsungs use a newer Cortex-A8 processor as opposed to an ARMv6 in the 2009s. What this means is that the menus and widgets might be a bit faster on this years models. A plus for the 2009s is that the firmware is modifiable as long as you don't install the 2010 firmware update. This lets you add more playback options for usb and over the network as well as a fully working web browser. It seems that the 2010 models have locked down security so it is unlikely to be modified.
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post #58 of 4066
3/23/10 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by straca View Post

My local Costco now has the 55" 6400 in stock, too. But $2.5K? I'll pass.

Considering that BB has the 6300 for 10% less and the 6500 for $20 more, Costco needs to adjust the price. Probably coupon book item next time around.

Just keep in mind; as I said in a previous post, if your viewing/sitting spot is more than about 15 degrees off center of the screen, I'd avod the "C" panel which seems to be prevalent in the 6300. It seems from other posters that the 6400 has the "S" panels which are by far the better panel &, IMO, worth the extra price to avoid any off-angle viewing issues....Just a heads-up.
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post #59 of 4066
3/23/10 at 4:10pm
Ordered a UN46C6300 off Amazon last week for $1450 with free shipping and no tax (FTW) and it just arrived today. Panel is SQ01. Looks great and am getting ready to mount it on the wall.

I chose the 6300 over the 6500 to save the $300 on the lack of InfoLink and Medi@2.0 in exchange for picking up a Playstation 3 Slim.

The one problem I've experienced is hooking it up to my Macbook Pro (non-unibody) at 1920x1080 @ 60Hz doesn't fill up the entire screen. There's a ~4-inch black bar on the left hand side even after moving the screen position.

Anyone else run into this?

I'm new to AVS Forum and looking forward to learning. Thanks.
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post #60 of 4066
3/23/10 at 4:34pm
A friend of mine bought the 46C6400 from Costco a couple weeks ago without even realizing these are brand new models that are trickling out to stores. Anyway she discovered much to her dislike the Standard setting in AutoMotion Plus that makes things look too much like video. She set it to Clear when watching TV content or DVDs, things looked much better.

A recent firmware update opened the Netflix streaming feature but there doesn't seem to be away to change the AutoMotion Plus setting. The question is, is there a way to alter those settings when it comes to content that is streamed as opposed to when watching content from a DVD or video set top box?
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