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post #391 of 4066
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Originally Posted by hearrean View Post


Mode: Natural
Backlight: 5
Contrast: 93
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 9
Color: 49
Tint: G50/50

Eco Solution:
Energy Savings: Off
ECO Saver: On
Min Backlight: 4
No Signal Power: Off (Your preference)

Advanced Settings:
Black Tone: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Shadow Detail: -1
Gamma: -1

Color Space: Auto

White Balance:
R-offs 28
G-offs 26
B-offs 27
R-gain 26
G-gain 20
B-gain 26

10p White Balance: Off
LED MP: On

Flesh Tone: 0
Edge Enhancement: Off
xvYCC: Off

Picture Options:
Color Tone: Warm 2
Size: 16:9
Digital Noise Filter: Auto
Film Mode: Auto 1
Auto Motion Plus: Standard (Your preference)

Just got my un55c6500( ver. SK03). Got rid of a old Samsung 56" Dlp . Must say this thing has a way better pic(when its rite).

One problem when using ur setup. With this tv i in Natural mode i cant select advanced picture option. So i went to Movie mode and tried this set up and looks horrible. My manual says only way to get advanced options is on Standard and Movie.

The only problem i seem to be having is fast scenes ghost like... Even on what im watching now" Ice age 2" HD.

So im gonna try the settings in Standard.

Some help if yall dont mind.
post #392 of 4066
Also no netflix. Says need to upgrade. But day one of setting up tv it had a bunch of upgrades. Really wanted to test this out thats why i just created a account on netflix.

Do u have to setup the internet Tv ID.
post #393 of 4066
I just got a UN40C6300 and I notice the picture becomes jerky which lasts for like one second every 10 seconds or so. I see this on HD channels with TV shows and movies. I think this is called judder. I tried the AMP set to clear, standard, smooth, and custom (with judder reduction set to 10 and blur reduction set to 5). I always see this judder except when set to clear, but on clear, the picture looks like a normal 60hz picture (having slight flicker on moving objects). Is this normal?
post #394 of 4066
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Originally Posted by Yobe View Post

I just got a UN40C6300 and I notice the picture becomes jerky which lasts for like one second every 10 seconds or so. I see this on HD channels with TV shows and movies. I think this is called judder. I tried the AMP set to clear, standard, smooth, and custom (with judder reduction set to 10 and blur reduction set to 5). I always see this judder except when set to clear, but on clear, the picture looks like a normal 60hz picture (having slight flicker on moving objects). Is this normal?

Did you try turning off the 120 hz motion plus deal? Personally I hate the way it makes the picture look so I have mine off. When I did have it on originally though I noticed some weird stuff due to the processing.
post #395 of 4066
I got UN55C6300 last Friday. It's a CN01 panel. Ken mentioned that it suppose to have less flashlighing effect, however it's not the case in my situation. Here are 2 pictures - first one is how my flishlighing looks and the second - with a bit longer exposure to show exactly where it appears on the screen.

Real:


Long exposure:


So you can clearly see that there is some bad flashlighting in bottom-left corner - actually it washes out some other colors, not only blacks, and you can see some in the middle also.

I am exchanging this unit, will give it another try, if it's going to be similar with the next one, then sorry Samsung, but I'll have to find something else.
post #396 of 4066
I have the 6500. I cannot for the life of me, connect to picasa. I tried to input my username and username@gmail.com, together with my password, and it repeatedly fails to connect.

Anyone had similar issues ? Any suggestions ?


Thanks
post #397 of 4066
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Originally Posted by chvybeatsford View Post

Just got my un55c6500( ver. SK03). Got rid of a old Samsung 56" Dlp . Must say this thing has a way better pic(when its rite).

One problem when using ur setup. With this tv i in Natural mode i cant select advanced picture option. So i went to Movie mode and tried this set up and looks horrible. My manual says only way to get advanced options is on Standard and Movie.

The only problem i seem to be having is fast scenes ghost like... Even on what im watching now" Ice age 2" HD.

So im gonna try the settings in Standard.

Some help if yall dont mind.

I had the same problem...The advance settings cannot be accessed in Natural mode. I went to standard mode and applied the calibration settings. I'm happy with how it looks that way. Let me know if you liked it after changing yours to Standard...

KEN..Any other suggestions regarding the settings??

OH..By the way..I love mine! (model c6300) Avatar Blu-ray looks incredible on it...I upgraded from a CRT Rear Projection and it's incredible how much the picture quality has improved from that technology.
post #398 of 4066
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Originally Posted by larryt36 View Post

I had the same problem...The advance settings cannot be accessed in Natural mode. I went to standard mode and applied the calibration settings. I'm happy with how it looks that way. Let me know if you liked it after changing yours to Standard...

KEN..Any other suggestions regarding the settings??

OH..By the way..I love mine! (model c6300) Avatar Blu-ray looks incredible on it...I upgraded from a CRT Rear Projection and it's incredible how much the picture quality has improved from that technology.


Same problem here - I think I did the same, using Ken's settings in Standard. My set is a C6400 with an S screen. The problem I'm having (and have only seen a couple posts about) is that in dark scenes the picture lacks definition. Tried watching UP and there is about 10 minutes of the movie (where they are on the airship with the old explorer eating dinner, then when they're escaping, and then again when he lights the house on fire - in case anyone has that movie...) where there is almost NO definition at all and in a couple of the scenes the picture is entirely black! It pains me to say it but dark scenes look better on my old tube TV, at least in the sense that I can see what's happening! I've noticed this with other movies and programs too.

What settings would I need to tinker with to improve this? No one really seems to be complaining about this issue which is a bit baffling... Oh and ECO solutions is off, BTW, so it's not an auto-dimming issue.
post #399 of 4066
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jen78200514 View Post

Same problem here - I think I did the same, using Ken's settings in Standard. My set is a C6400 with an S screen. The problem I'm having (and have only seen a couple posts about) is that in dark scenes the picture lacks definition. Tried watching UP and there is about 10 minutes of the movie (where they are on the airship with the old explorer eating dinner, then when they're escaping, and then again when he lights the house on fire - in case anyone has that movie...) where there is almost NO definition at all and in a couple of the scenes the picture is entirely black! It pains me to say it but dark scenes look better on my old tube TV, at least in the sense that I can see what's happening! I've noticed this with other movies and programs too.

What settings would I need to tinker with to improve this? No one really seems to be complaining about this issue which is a bit baffling... Oh and ECO solutions is off, BTW, so it's not an auto-dimming issue.

What I have found is that in "Standard" mode, blacks just do not appear deep black. W/O going into the SM (which you don't want to do), I find "Movie" mode to help in this area quite a bit. (See my modified settings just above).You can lessen the backlight...you can also tinker with the Dynamic Contrast in the Advanced Settings & the higher the setting here, the blacker your blacks will be.

Ken
post #400 of 4066
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Originally Posted by hearrean View Post

It's sort of a trade-off here. With "Natural" mode selected, you do lose the ability to control the advanced settings. I decided I did want some control over shadow detail & gamma so this is what I have done since those settings shown in post # 20:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 93
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 8
Color: 49
Tint: G50/50

Advanced Settings:
Dynamic Contrast: Low to Med (your choice)

Everything else is the same. The "Natural" setting did give more of a "pop" to the PQ. To offset that when changing to "Movie" mode, I came up slightly on the backlight & brightness. Now if I change back, I see very little difference. Try the above & see if that helps a little. You will notice that I have still left Color Space at "Auto." Without the proper calibration equipment, I don't really see how to knowingly adjust these w/o it just being hit & miss. Auto (IMO) does a pretty good job here.

Ken

Great! I just changed mine and I do like your "new & improved" settings better than having it as "Standard"
post #401 of 4066
Standard dosent look bad to me.... Bout to try ur new setting in movie mode real quick.


Any one here know anything on the netflix fix?
post #402 of 4066
Like the setting man. Looks good. black is black and all. A lil dark 4 me so i may just add some lite to it.( gonna wait till sun goes down i have a very bright living room.

Also in "movie" i cant adjust film mode to auto. So that was the other setting i couldn't change
post #403 of 4066
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by chvybeatsford View Post

Like the setting man. Looks good. black is black and all. A lil dark 4 me so i may just add some lite to it.( gonna wait till sun goes down i have a very bright living room.

Also in "movie" i cant adjust film mode to auto. So that was the other setting i couldn't change

Not sure why you can't set Film mode to "Auto." The "Movie" mode setting doesn't affect this at all. I highly recommend this be set at Auto 1 unless you appear to have issues with text during films, for example text break-up, etc. I see this more effective if watching a movie w/subtitles. But rarely would you ever have this set on anything but Auto1.

Ken
post #404 of 4066
May be another setting else where is altering it. It's the just greyed out. Also don't u have the 6300?
post #405 of 4066
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by chvybeatsford View Post

May be another setting else where is altering it. It's the just greyed out. Also don't u have the 6300?

Yes...Just to double check, I would advise going back through each setting and checking them against what's posted. There could be just one little thing that's different, but it should not be greyed out..Are you sure you don't have Game Mode engaged?

Ken
post #406 of 4066
No game mode off. Just read the manual and in 1080p film mode not allowed. But in 1080i or lower u can adjust. Seems like with my htcp i cant but with cable box i can. Weird. But on cable box i cant adjust Hdmi black level. Too many restrictions.
post #407 of 4066
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Originally Posted by CountThis View Post

Did you try turning off the 120 hz motion plus deal? Personally I hate the way it makes the picture look so I have mine off. When I did have it on originally though I noticed some weird stuff due to the processing.

yes, but then I lose the 120 hz smoothness. I guess you can't have both.
post #408 of 4066
I'm bordering on giddy tonight after setting up my UN46C6300 and watching it in lit and dark conditions. The C6300 is my first HDTV, so it's clearly a treat for the eyes. I ordered from Amazon (SQ01 panel) after extensive product research in the Samsung line.. wavering on the b8000, then b6000, then 750. Once the wife saw the LED form factor she preferred it, and the price diff between the b6000 and the c6300 was negligible, and I do not like the red TOC. Didn't want the internet stuff or 3D - eventually this will be our bedroom set.

Anyway, first after installing the set I applied hearrean's modified settings. As a complete newb, I felt this was the best course of action. We fixed the judder or whatever by disabling the motion plus thing. Turns out I was right to use Ken's settings.. they seemed dark at first but they are nothing short of proper. (thanks so much Ken) I didn't notice any of the defects like ghosting or flashlighting that are represented in the images below. But these are unskilled eyes.. so take that with a grain of salt. I did look and pause during scene cuts and other darkness, but I couldn't find a complaint.

We used the set's audio (will deal with surround sound later) and it is acceptable, temporarily.

I guess the next thing will be to sit with a booklight and the manual and tune settings myself, just to learn about my new toy. If I find a configuration I like better I'll post it. I do not feel that these will be acceptable for sports, so I'll work on that too. After 3 hours (some Avatar and Modern Family tonight) I am very, very pleased with this set. Thanks everyone.
post #409 of 4066
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Originally Posted by chvybeatsford View Post

Just got my un55c6500( ver. SK03). Got rid of a old Samsung 56" Dlp . Must say this thing has a way better pic(when its rite).

One problem when using ur setup. With this tv i in Natural mode i cant select advanced picture option. So i went to Movie mode and tried this set up and looks horrible. My manual says only way to get advanced options is on Standard and Movie.

The only problem i seem to be having is fast scenes ghost like... Even on what im watching now" Ice age 2" HD.

So im gonna try the settings in Standard.

Some help if yall dont mind.

Turn off Digital Noise Filter, hope this help with ghost.
post #410 of 4066
Hey all! I am thinking of picking up a UN55C6500 this weekend, while doing my shopping I was able to check out the boxes at the store and they had 'SN01' panels.. are these the good ones? What's difference between 'SN01' and 'SQ01'?

Thanks!
post #411 of 4066
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Originally Posted by hearrean View Post

It's sort of a trade-off here. With "Natural" mode selected, you do lose the ability to control the advanced settings. I decided I did want some control over shadow detail & gamma so this is what I have done since those settings shown in post # 20:

Mode: Movie
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 93
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 8
Color: 49
Tint: G50/50

Advanced Settings:
Dynamic Contrast: Low to Med (your choice)

Everything else is the same. The "Natural" setting did give more of a "pop" to the PQ. To offset that when changing to "Movie" mode, I came up slightly on the backlight & brightness. Now if I change back, I see very little difference. Try the above & see if that helps a little. You will notice that I have still left Color Space at "Auto." Without the proper calibration equipment, I don't really see how to knowingly adjust these w/o it just being hit & miss. Auto (IMO) does a pretty good job here.

Ken

Overall like the settings, however a little to dark for me. Which would be the best way to brighten the picture ? Would the backlight or gamma be better ? I dont want to "wash out" the whites ?
post #412 of 4066
I have a un55c6500 and am having trouble finding a directv remote control code (hr21). Did anyone have any luck finding one?
post #413 of 4066
I now notice the flashlighting in the lower left hand corner with my 46c6300 ... I'll give it a few more days before deciding how annoying it is.
post #414 of 4066
A new firmware release was posted on the Samsung support site for the 6500 this morning. I downloaded it but don't have time to install it until tonight. Perhaps Netflix and Blockbuster streaming will start working...??
post #415 of 4066
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Originally Posted by John Clarke View Post

A new firmware release was posted on the Samsung support site for the 6500 this morning. I downloaded it but don't have time to install it until tonight. Perhaps Netflix and Blockbuster streaming will start working...??

Bout time. Hope fully it will work straight from tv instead of a USB upgrade
post #416 of 4066
Acording to the description it states: Enable to enjoy "Netflix" and "Blockbuster", Enhanced 3D picutre quality (3DTV only), Add "3D otimize" option on user OSD (3d TV only), intermittent problem some stream may have when playing "Media Play"
post #417 of 4066
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Originally Posted by tainted View Post

Acording to the description it states: Enable to enjoy "Netflix" and "Blockbuster", Enhanced 3D picutre quality (3DTV only), Add "3D otimize" option on user OSD (3d TV only), intermittent problem some stream may have when playing "Media Play"

If u download it save it. That way if they pull it well have a copy somewhere.
post #418 of 4066
I thought I would clear up a few misconceptions in this thread....

Differences between 6300, 6400, and 6500 models -

According to Samsung service manuals, there are no differences between any x3xxx, x4xxx, and x5xxx models other than cosmetics. All three types use the same panels and video processing chips.

Panel type and size -

According to information I've gotten from various websites, the 55" and 46" models in this series only come in C and S versions, respectively. Other sizes are subject to the panel lottery.

Panel type and image quality -

Which type of panel you should get - S, A, or C - depends entirely on your viewing habits. In general, the S version will have better blacks and off angle viewing, but will have a higher probability of clouding/flashlighting. A and C panels will tend to have the best image quality when viewed from the center, as they have newer, more advanced pixel structures than Samsung's own S-PVA panels.
post #419 of 4066
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Originally Posted by Yobe View Post

I just got a UN40C6300 and I notice the picture becomes jerky which lasts for like one second every 10 seconds or so. I see this on HD channels with TV shows and movies. I think this is called judder. I tried the AMP set to clear, standard, smooth, and custom (with judder reduction set to 10 and blur reduction set to 5). I always see this judder except when set to clear, but on clear, the picture looks like a normal 60hz picture (having slight flicker on moving objects). Is this normal?

I've noticed this some on my TV as well....Did you get it to stop? I'd like to know what to try..I only notice it on HD content and it doesn't always do it.

Also, I've noticed on some HD content that I play from my Direct TV DVR, sometimes there is slight audio lag (I have it playing through my Pioneer Receiver)...???
post #420 of 4066
Mine was like u posted. I turn the amp off. Seems to help alot. Also I use the settings listed on this thread and it helped to. Seems the brighter the pic the more I seen. So as far as the motion blur/judder mine has left. I've even tested on avatar 1080p and even in the fast parts it's fine.

Try the settings posted and mess with the amp and see what happens.
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