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post #10381 of 10650
I saw a tweet for panasonic claiming Hulu + is now on their tv's and blu-ray players but i'm not seeing it under the new viera connect. Does anybody here get hulu +?

Thanks
post #10382 of 10650
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Originally Posted by rsoares28 View Post

I saw a tweet for panasonic claiming Hulu + is now on their tv's and blu-ray players but i'm not seeing it under the new viera connect. Does anybody here get hulu +?

Thanks

It may be in the marketplace pathway and require an existing account.
post #10383 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

Both my TC-P65VT25 and my TC-46PGT24 have been automatically updated from Firmware Version 3.00 to Version 3.720.

Wonder if those who updated to James Cameron's settings in Firmware Version 3.5 will be able to update to Version3.720 and if so, will we all have the same settings now?

Regarding the Version 3.720 update.

First, I was surprised yesterday that my TC-46PGT24 would have the same 3.720 version update as my TC-P65VT25, because James Cameron's firmware version 3.5 was never available for the TC-46PGT24 for technical reasons.

3D results for the GT24 after the upgrade are amazing. If there is one 3D Blu-ray I've played at least 20 times on that set in the past it would be Coraline 3D and last night I played it after the update. The first thing I noticed that was different was the depth of the title section where the lace boarder around the frame has different layers of lace and the stiched Coraline name sewn in thread with a button being placed over the O in Coraline. Depth is now at least twice (double) the depth as it was before. The whole movie has more depth and detail clarity has improved.

Very nice.

Paul
post #10384 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

Regarding the Version 3.720 update.

First, I was surprised yesterday that my TC-46PGT24 would have the same 3.720 version update as my TC-P65VT25, because James Cameron's firmware version 3.5 was never available for the TC-46PGT24 for technical reasons.

3D results for the GT24 after the upgrade are amazing. If there is one 3D Blu-ray I've played at least 20 times on that set in the past it would be Coraline 3D and last night I played it after the update. The first thing I noticed that was different was the depth of the title section where the lace boarder around the frame has different layers of lace and the stiched Coraline name sewn in thread with a button being placed over the O in Coraline. Depth is now at least twice (double) the depth as it was before. The whole movie has more depth and clarity detail has improved.

Very nice.

Paul

Did you had time to play it on your VT25 also? Did you notice any improvement as well?
post #10385 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Pabgon View Post

Did you had time to play it on your VT25 also? Did you notice any improvement as well?

No time yet and I need to play a 3D movie that I would play a lot on that set to easily notice any difference. AVATAR 3D would probably be the most played to check it out.
post #10386 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

No time yet and I need to play a 3D movie that I would play a lot on that set to easily notice any difference. AVATAR 3D would probably be the most played to check it out.

Please play it when you have time and then post your impressions...I don't have Avatar 3D yet but I'm planning on getting it soon, thanks!
post #10387 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

No time yet and I need to play a 3D movie that I would play a lot on that set to easily notice any difference. AVATAR 3D would probably be the most played to check it out.

I played avatar on my tcp50gt25 and noticed the difference.

Jacob
post #10388 of 10650
[Never mind - I found the entry under the network settings/update and it now shows 3.7.2]

A quick question - I got the forced update via the Viera Cast menu and figured it was just updating the Viera Cast software, not the firmware that controls anything else in the TV. Are the two related/integrated? I couldn't find the instructions on how to check the firmware version of the TV any more, but if I blur my eyes and read every number backwards in the software version panel I think I can make out a 3-7-2 in there - is that the right procedure (OK, well maybe not blurring the eyes, that part was in jest).

FWIW, I was running the 3.5 Cameron update before.
post #10389 of 10650
Curious FW update.
It must be quite large?

the 3.5 had warnings about calibrations.
Now 3.72 some how has improved pic quality?
My eyes have fooled me and i find it hard to believe the 3.72 is more than just internet features.
Anyone who has updated noticed how long it took to download?
Must be a big file if it has more than internet stuff.
:lurk:
post #10390 of 10650
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Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post

Curious FW update.
It must be quite large?

the 3.5 had warnings about calibrations.
Now 3.72 some how has improved pic quality?
My eyes have fooled me and i find it hard to believe the 3.72 is more than just internet features.
Anyone who has updated noticed how long it took to download?
Must be a big file if it has more than internet stuff.
:lurk:

Less than 5 minutes on my GT25. It definitely did not update service menu settings that I double checked.
post #10391 of 10650
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

It may be in the marketplace pathway and require an existing account.

I have a 58vt25, is hulu only available for the VT30? I checked the marketplace but onlu saw netflix and amazon VOD. i dont have an account though.
post #10392 of 10650
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Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post

Curious FW update.
It must be quite large?

the 3.5 had warnings about calibrations.
Now 3.72 some how has improved pic quality?
My eyes have fooled me and i find it hard to believe the 3.72 is more than just internet features.
Anyone who has updated noticed how long it took to download?
Must be a big file if it has more than internet stuff.
:lurk:

It was a very fast download for me as well - only a couple of minutes on a very fast cable connection.

The 3.5 firmware download was 22MB, which would be consistent with the amount of time that the TV took to download this update (actually I didn't measure it, but it was more than a few seconds and less than a cup of coffee and the range was well within the amount of time it would take for a consumer appliance to download a file of that size).
post #10393 of 10650
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Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post


the 3.5 had warnings about calibrations.
Now 3.72 some how has improved pic quality?
My eyes have fooled me and i find it hard to believe the 3.72 is more than just internet features.
:lurk:

Didn't update my TC-P65VT25 from version 3.5, I updated it from 3.00 which I had on both my Viera sets.

Not asking anyone to take my word for it and I'm trying to be very careful to express the differences I see in the 3D from the new 3.720 firmware upgrade.

Check it out for yourself and report what you see.

Here are some 3D differences I've observed from viewing the first part of AVATAR 3D. Played the disc up to where the commander is lifting weights.

Being very careful here.

IMO: Depth is definitely perceived as deeper starting with the notices on the screen that has the green textured background. i.e. The background looks like it is further back and the "BD-Video Play Full HD 3D" notice that pops up in the right corner is on a more pronounced dimensional plain.

IMO:Another change is that it seems like the picture is more refined by possibly through an eye adjustment degree/angle change? i.e. It feels easier/more comfortable and less strain than before to view the 3D.
I really took notice of the yellow subtitles when the actors spoke the native language, because the depth is so much better that the sentences are noticeably located between the actors spaces, who are at different depths in relation to each other, their words are even printed and positioned in angles in some instances on different plains than the actors are for effect. -Never noticed that before now. Didn't notice any ghosting to the point I stopped the disc at, but I'm not saying it is significant or an improvement or that there was ghosting to see before the upgrade.
Hallways in buildings and on the space ship seemed more real in that they had a greater depth and the people in them are improved in spatial detail.

Of course my eyes could have fooled me.
post #10394 of 10650
After the VT30 Spanish firmware and the new NorthAmerican FW fix, I am really confused.

I do wonder about this 3.72 for the VT25.
I really hope it does fix some issues with the VT25. My gamma sucks.
I am using 3.0 and do not use the internet apps.
I enjoy the reports. :thumbs:
post #10395 of 10650
I don't see it anymore when playing Avatar the illuminated bulbs don't show it and I also can't see it during fast movement. The flux in brightness is still present but I wasn't holding my breath on that one.
post #10396 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

I don't see it anymore when playing Avatar the illuminated bulbs don't show it and I also can't see it during fast movement. The flux in brightness is still present but I wasn't holding my breath on that one.

I hear ya, I was hoping someone here would shout "FLOATING BLACKS FIXED!". That would've been great. I never use Viera Cast so I'll stick with 3.5.
post #10397 of 10650
Just updated both my VT25 and G25 with the latest 3.72 firmware. Both updated without any issues using the wireless adaptor. I updated it from the 3.00 firmware on both TV's. Nothing in my settings looks to be changed, but VieraConnect has replaced VieraCast.

Havent had a chance to watch 3D with the new firmware.

Mike
post #10398 of 10650
Back in May I had my VT25 ISF calibrated. At the time of calibration I had firmware version 3.5 and still do. I am intrigued to update to 3.72 in light of some of the comments of improved picture depth and possible fix with contouring. I am holding off for now as I would want a definite answer to whether this would alter anything. The calibrator did not go into the service menu, but changed pretty much any value there was in the regular set up options under custom and as well as the pro settings. Is it safe to update?
post #10399 of 10650
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post
Back in May I had my VT25 ISF calibrated. At the time of calibration I had firmware version 3.5 and still do. I am intrigued to update to 3.72 in light of some of the comments of improved picture depth and possible fix with contouring. I am holding off for now as I would want a definite answer to whether this would alter anything. The calibrator did not go into the service menu, but changed pretty much any value there was in the regular set up options under custom and as well as the pro settings. Is it safe to update?
I had my VT25 ISF calibrated also. None of the pro settings changed. I had all mine written down just in case. But the update didnt affect my settings at all.

Mike
post #10400 of 10650
My question wouldn't be whether it updated settings, but whether it interpreted the settings differently. The calibrated settings may be compensating for some shortcoming that the firmware fixed and is now overcompensating.

Just a thought...

And what exactly is Viera Connect anyway that is different than Viera Cast? I hardly use Viera Cast anyway as I'd rather look at pictures on the computer as the search functions work much better. A 20" old iMac up close is plenty big for me. YouTube is the only other app I used and it does look better on the TV. It must be the video processing. My Oppo 93 has the updated Netflix app and I use it from there.
post #10401 of 10650
My VT25 was ISF calibrated by Gregg Loewen using 3.5 firmware. I use 60Hz mode for all viewing. Is there a positive picture upgrade after updating to 3.72?
post #10402 of 10650
^^Nope, just a newer looking appearance to their renamed connectivity feature, and perhaps added a couple of apps but has nothing to do with picture quality otherwise I'd buy a cheaper TV and rely on Veira for better pic quality next time.
post #10403 of 10650
has anybody else had any problems with the updater trying to load 3.72? i'm having issues with the tc-p50g20. its telling me that there is an update but hangs usually at 0%, but sometimes (rarely) will go up to around 71% and hangs, then tells me to reboot the tv and try again after "a while". haha. anybody else experiencing anything like this? i'm connected through ethernet cable. connection tests are a success. regards,

MJ
post #10404 of 10650
my 2 cents

updated my tcp50vt25 to 3.72 via ethernet from 3.5. the update downloaded and installed very quickly. Nothing has changed in the service menu settings and user menu settings.

have not had time to test 3d.

contouring introduced with 96hz mode is still there - still very apparent on Russel's face on UP bluray, Russel chapter. My mind tells me its a little better, but i think thats just wishful thinking.

floating blacks still an issue - still very apparent in the famous chapter 37 of The Dark Knight.

will fool around in 3d later.
post #10405 of 10650
I went in to service menu and the changes I made to THX mode are still the same. User menu settings are also the same as before update. I'm pretty certain the update only involved the major change to Viera Connect. Of course I can't find much about it on Panasonic site. Previous emails to support, for me, have proven fruitless.
post #10406 of 10650
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Originally Posted by acetheog View Post

my 2 cents

updated my tcp50vt25 to 3.72 via ethernet from 3.5. the update downloaded and installed very quickly. Nothing has changed in the service menu settings and user menu settings.

have not had time to test 3d.

contouring introduced with 96hz mode is still there - still very apparent on Russel's face on UP bluray, Russel chapter. My mind tells me its a little better, but i think thats just wishful thinking.

floating blacks still an issue - still very apparent in the famous chapter 37 of The Dark Knight.

will fool around in 3d later.

Thanks for update. I still haven't updated. I was hoping floating blacks would be fixed.
post #10407 of 10650
I think the floating blacks is something that can't be fixed from a firmware upgrade. It has been an annoyance, but for whatever odd reason I do not notice them as much. I purchased my TV in December of last year and started noticing the floating blacks in February. The issue was not see for the first couple months. Ever since mid June it seems like I have not noticed them nearly as much. So, I don't know if its something that has to do with time vs. how much the set is used or what.
post #10408 of 10650
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post
I think the floating blacks is something that can't be fixed from a firmware upgrade. It has been an annoyance, but for whatever odd reason I do not notice them as much. I purchased my TV in December of last year and started noticing the floating blacks in February. The issue was not see for the first couple months. Ever since mid June it seems like I have not noticed them nearly as much. So, I don't know if its something that has to do with time vs. how much the set is used or what.
Like you say I think it has to do with the time of use... I have approximately 2000 hours on mine and like others have pointed out the floating blacks have been reduced greatly...they are still there, like in the famous chapter 37 of the Dark Knight, but I can tell you that in A LOT of scenes from other movies in which I clearly remember to have seen them they have disappeared completely.
post #10409 of 10650
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Originally Posted by Pabgon View Post

Like you say I think it has to do with the time of use... I have approximately 2000 hours on mine and like others have pointed out the floating blacks have been reduced greatly...they are still there, like in the famous chapter 37 of the Dark Knight, but I can tell you that in A LOT of scenes from other movies in which I clearly remember to have seen them they have disappeared completely.

There has been many conflicting reports about the floating blacks. Some have stated the floating blacks either disappear or at least decrease over time. On the other hand, others have stated that this is pure crap and that it is flawed. There probably is no definite answer, but it really does seem like they become less noticeable over time. It may not be over a certain amount of months, but it could be over a certain amount of usage. If I were to average it out, I would say my TV is on between 2-4 hours per day. Most of that time is spent watching Blu-rays.
post #10410 of 10650
You do know panasonic has issued an EPROM flash/A-Board replacement to fix FBr, right? Its been reaching customers this week. I'll be getting mine next week. Those that have received the service thus far have reported great success!
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