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post #10531 of 10643
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Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post

I do not believe the new A board will not function like the old one.So the settings should react the same.
I understand what you are wondering.

I am curious about the hours and programmed volt increases though.
Please post what the new board does for you.

I'm sure the hours on the set have been reverted back to zero, but who knows. I have tried to check that before, but was nervous that I would do the wrong thing so I did not attempt to do it. I am still getting fluctuating brightness levels. The picture on the other hand looks pretty sharp, but I think I am getting more crush now. Could just be me though.
post #10532 of 10643
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post

I'm sure the hours on the set have been reverted back to zero, but who knows. I have tried to check that before, but was nervous that I would do the wrong thing so I did not attempt to do it. I am still getting fluctuating brightness levels. The picture on the other hand looks pretty sharp, but I think I am getting more crush now. Could just be me though.

that would be consistent with the reports of better black levels. IE lower MLL.
Good thing. :thumbs:
post #10533 of 10643
Please post your repairs done by Panasonic for the VT-25, they are not acknowledging a fix for my TV. Why some are getting the new boards replaced and others aren't is confusing me.
post #10534 of 10643
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Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post

that would be consistent with the reports of better black levels. IE lower MLL.
Good thing. :thumbs:

I thought the black levels got worse over time with the VT25's. I know that the VT30's are improving over time. The mll's got lower on that TV form various professional reports.

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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

Please post your repairs done by Panasonic for the VT-25, they are not acknowledging a fix for my TV. Why some are getting the new boards replaced and others aren't is confusing me.

From my understanding people with the VT30's have got their A boards replaced and the problem with fluctuating brightness went away after the swap. I, however, still am dealing with the issue after a board swap on my VT25.
post #10535 of 10643
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post

I thought the black levels got worse over time with the VT25's. I know that the VT30's are improving over time. The mll's got lower on that TV form various professional reports.


From my understanding people with the VT30's have got their A boards replaced and the problem with fluctuating brightness went away after the swap. I, however, still am dealing with the issue after a board swap on my VT25.

people who have their A board replaced reported an improvement in Black.
Seems the A board resets the voltage to
new condition. So that is why I said what I did.
Sad thing, it does not last.
post #10536 of 10643
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post

people who have their A board replaced reported an improvement in Black.
Seems the A board resets the voltage to
new condition. So that is why I said what I did.
Sad thing, it does not last.

Very interesting. I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
post #10537 of 10643
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Originally Posted by sgupta View Post

I went with ChadB (HDTVbyChadB.com), and he did an incredible job!

Thanks for your calibration report. I've added it to the list of owner reports (post # 2) that's linked at the bottom of my post.

Finding out about your report has taken so long because I'm not able to read all the display threads.

If anyone knows about owner calibration reports that haven't been included in the reports list please let me know.

Enjoy.
post #10538 of 10643
Hey Guys,

Went in to best buy yesterday looking for a bedroom TV was thinking about getting the 50ST30. But they had an open box 54VT25 so I ended up getting that for just under $900. Good idea or bad? March 2010 build date got it home no issues so far.
post #10539 of 10643
hey lucy thats a great deal on the tv congrats
post #10540 of 10643
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Originally Posted by tazz3 View Post

hey lucy thats a great deal on the tv congrats

Keep it?
post #10541 of 10643
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Originally Posted by LucyFord View Post

Keep it?

Lucy, Just check to make sure there is no screen burn in. Best Buy is known for running their demo TVs in full torch mode especially if it was a 3D demo set.
post #10542 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Clark Burk View Post

Lucy, Just check to make sure there is no screen burn in. Best Buy is known for running their demo TVs in full torch mode especially if it was a 3D demo set.

Better yet check the hrs.
post #10543 of 10643
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Originally Posted by LucyFord View Post

Went in to best buy yesterday looking for a bedroom TV was thinking about getting the 50ST30. But they had an open box 54VT25 so I ended up getting that for just under $900. Good idea or bad? March 2010 build date got it home no issues so far.

Put up a white screen and look for ghost images (burn-in), or large numbers of stuck pixels. If you don't see anything that looks awful to you, enjoy your new display.

If your set has been a demo, it might have burn-in due to the way BB runs their demo source material.
post #10544 of 10643
HDMI IN and OPTICAL OUT SIMUTANEOUSLY?


Hello,

I have looked through this Official Thread and have had a hard time finding what my problem is.

1. I am connecting my HTPC to my Yamaha RX-V671 receiver via HDMI, then from the receiver to the TV.

- the audio works great on my Yamaha and is full 5.1

- However, i was hoping to back feed the audio from the P50vt20 into my receiver to drive the 2nd zone.

to do this, i bought an optical to analogue convertor.

2. but i have found that in this configuration, the audio is not being fed out of the optical port.

3. when i connect the HTPC directly to the TV via HDMI, I am able to get Optical audio out - to my convertor and then to my receiver (of course on 2 channel, which is all i want)

my question is:

- does anyone know if it is possible to have the 5.1 through the reciever and then get audio out of the tv?

- or is it that my reciever is only sending video and not audio?
- but then again i do get audio out of the TV speakers.

- would 1.4hdmi cables make this work?

it seems that is probably configurations in both the yamaha and the tv that i have messed up.

it is very frustrating, but i want this setup so i can feed music from computer to the main speakers and to my outdoor speakers (via zone 2 on the yamaha) at the same time.

thanks for your help in advance!
post #10545 of 10643
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Originally Posted by farmwersteve View Post

HDMI IN and OPTICAL OUT SIMUTANEOUSLY?


Hello,

I have looked through this Official Thread and have had a hard time finding what my problem is.

1. I am connecting my HTPC to my Yamaha RX-V671 receiver via HDMI, then from the receiver to the TV.

- the audio works great on my Yamaha and is full 5.1

- However, i was hoping to back feed the audio from the P50vt20 into my receiver to drive the 2nd zone.

to do this, i bought an optical to analogue convertor.

2. but i have found that in this configuration, the audio is not being fed out of the optical port.

3. when i connect the HTPC directly to the TV via HDMI, I am able to get Optical audio out - to my convertor and then to my receiver (of course on 2 channel, which is all i want)

my question is:

- does anyone know if it is possible to have the 5.1 through the reciever and then get audio out of the tv?

- or is it that my reciever is only sending video and not audio?
- but then again i do get audio out of the TV speakers.

- would 1.4hdmi cables make this work?

it seems that is probably configurations in both the yamaha and the tv that i have messed up.

it is very frustrating, but i want this setup so i can feed music from computer to the main speakers and to my outdoor speakers (via zone 2 on the yamaha) at the same time.

thanks for your help in advance!

The AVR should be sending audio to both the TV and AVR via HDMI. Check your TV speaker settings and AVR. As far as HDMI cables there is no 1.4 just stick with what you have .
post #10546 of 10643
Well there's no such thing as 1.4 HDMI cables (true) but you still need to make sure you have the "High Speed HDMI cables" to be compatible with the higher flow of data shared my 1.4 HDMI connectors, needed for 1080p and +. "Standard" cables are rated up to 1080i only.

Source : http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/buying_guide.aspx
post #10547 of 10643
Haven't posted in here in a long while... I haven't had any issues with this set
until today. What in the world is this?

I have switched HDMI cables, swapped inputs in my AVR, and switched inputs on the TV as well. Its not burned in, but a weird block of colored lines that slightly pulsate. Almost invisible with bright pictures on screen, but highly noticeable with dark scenes.

Have any of you seen this before? Any ideas?

post #10548 of 10643
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Originally Posted by RampageSTi View Post

Haven't posted in here in a long while... I haven't had any issues with this set
until today. What in the world is this?

I have switched HDMI cables, swapped inputs in my AVR, and switched inputs on the TV as well. Its not burned in, but a weird block of colored lines that slightly pulsate. Almost invisible with bright pictures on screen, but highly noticeable with dark scenes.

Have any of you seen this before? Any ideas?


Have you checked ground loop problems between house ground and cable TV ground?

I had such interferences once and had to isolate the Cable TV grounding to mitigate the problem.

All the best,

Michael
post #10549 of 10643
Quote:
Originally Posted by RampageSTi View Post

Haven't posted in here in a long while... I haven't had any issues with this set
until today. What in the world is this?

I have switched HDMI cables, swapped inputs in my AVR, and switched inputs on the TV as well. Its not burned in, but a weird block of colored lines that slightly pulsate. Almost invisible with bright pictures on screen, but highly noticeable with dark scenes.

Have any of you seen this before? Any ideas?


It's been a long time, but when the set was first coming out I remember several pictures on YouTube from different people with the VT25 having similar active quadrants. One stayed in my mind where the guy said he was so frustrated that he hit the top of the set hard and the problem left. A search should find the uploads , and personally, I would NOT TRY HITTING IT.

Best,

Paul
post #10550 of 10643
Mine looked like that and had it replaced after 5 or 6 months.

Attachment 228240


Good luck, Mike
LL
post #10551 of 10643
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Originally Posted by MGS24 View Post

Mine looked like that and had it replaced after 5 or 6 months.

attachment.php?attachmentid=228240

Good luck, Mike

Yeah, that looks very similar. I have had the set for 1 year and 1 month, luckily I got an extended warranty with it.

They weren't able to repair your set? How long did it take them to get you a replacement?
post #10552 of 10643
Even though the original warranty is over, I would try my luck with Pani first especially if you're in the US. Dealing with extended warranty claims can be a PITA...

Or, try both and see which one reacts best.
post #10553 of 10643
Place I bought the TV did not want me to have to go through Panasonic so they replaced it for me with-in a few days of it happening.
post #10554 of 10643
I had exact same issue, but in the lower/left side of the screen. It had nothing to due with switching cables... just appeared one morning.

Local Panasonic support came out and fixed since unit was under warranty. I think they replaced a "D" board. The tech said all the boards are assigned a letter since they do multiple things. I should have asked how much it would have cost to fix outside of warranty... but I didn't. Unit is now out of warranty and I'm hoping I don't have any other failures
post #10555 of 10643
Hi All, just came across this amazing forum and it's certainly a great learning experience. I just got myself a VT20 after reading through the site. However, I have a small suspicion about my unit.

When I turned it on, I noticed at the bottom portion of the screen, where the vierra cast menu normally is, there seems to be some sort of image retention, or burn in of sorts. The panel is not showing any content (in fact just waiting for something to come in on HDMI 2), but there's clearly something visible there.

Being a little suspicious, I checked how to enter the service menu, and try to get a read out of how many power on hours the panel has had. The values read:

Time:04411:00 Count:0000573

Having just gotten the panel, I'm not sure if these values basically mean the panel has had about 4000+ hours of use and it's been turned on/off about 573 times.

I'm planning to give the vendor a call on this, but thought I checked with the experts here if my interpretation is correct.

Also curious, if I may, would be the amount of hours your panels had when you received it? From the other threads or post, most seem to come with about less than 100 hours on the panel.

Hope to hear from you guys soon on this as I suspect I've been taken for a ride. It's supposed to be a new panel, but, didn't seem to be the case. Hope to hear your thoughts on this bits before I engage them and panasonic. Thanks in advance everyone!
post #10556 of 10643
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Originally Posted by namuramc View Post

Hi All, just came across this amazing forum and it's certainly a great learning experience. I just got myself a VT20 after reading through the site. However, I have a small suspicion about my unit.

When I turned it on, I noticed at the bottom portion of the screen, where the vierra cast menu normally is, there seems to be some sort of image retention, or burn in of sorts. The panel is not showing any content (in fact just waiting for something to come in on HDMI 2), but there's clearly something visible there.

Being a little suspicious, I checked how to enter the service menu, and try to get a read out of how many power on hours the panel has had. The values read:

Time:04411:00 Count:0000573

Having just gotten the panel, I'm not sure if these values basically mean the panel has had about 4000+ hours of use and it's been turned on/off about 573 times.

I'm planning to give the vendor a call on this, but thought I checked with the experts here if my interpretation is correct.

Also curious, if I may, would be the amount of hours your panels had when you received it? From the other threads or post, most seem to come with about less than 100 hours on the panel.

Hope to hear from you guys soon on this as I suspect I've been taken for a ride. It's supposed to be a new panel, but, didn't seem to be the case. Hope to hear your thoughts on this bits before I engage them and panasonic. Thanks in advance everyone!

It's reasonable to assume that you bought a display model. VT20 was discontinued a while ago and display models are about all that's out there. Normally a new panel should come with no hours. As for the observed image retention, hopefully it's not burned in and will dissipate over time.
post #10557 of 10643
Hi rdgrimes, thanks for the inputs. I'm guessing as much now as well. I'll probably give the vendor and panasonic a call.

I'm just a bit concerned if the vendor decides to replace a new unit for me, he could very well replace it with yet another display unit, BUT with the power on hours reset to zero. Not sure if this is possible to be done by a layman or requires a panasonic engineer to do it?

Hopefully the procedure is not so straight forward.
post #10558 of 10643
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Originally Posted by namuramc View Post

Hi rdgrimes, thanks for the inputs. I'm guessing as much now as well. I'll probably give the vendor and panasonic a call.

I'm just a bit concerned if the vendor decides to replace a new unit for me, he could very well replace it with yet another display unit, BUT with the power on hours reset to zero. Not sure if this is possible to be done by a layman or requires a panasonic engineer to do it?

Hopefully the procedure is not so straight forward.

I suppose the obvious question, which you probably don't want to hear, is why are you doing business with a seller you don't trust?

It really hinges on how much you paid for it and how much trouble you want to go through. Panasonic is going to tell you to deal with the seller. What is the seller's return policy? In any case it's got a couple years of time on it.
post #10559 of 10643
Hi rdgrimes, thanks for the note and you certainly hit the spot there. I'm leaning towards a refund at this moment.

Sad thing is this is quite a reputable vendor around here, but I'm probably not going to bet on it that they can be trusted. Thanks again and will keep you guys posted
post #10560 of 10643
They will take back the unit and MAY have one more unopened unit, but on the other hand they have offered to let me take the Sharp LE830 52 inch for a slight markup. What do you guys think? Should I take the unopened unit or go for the LE830 which is a LED/LCD? Not sure how's the performance in comparison to the VT20.
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