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post #10561 of 10643
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Originally Posted by namuramc View Post

They will take back the unit and MAY have one more unopened unit, but on the other hand they have offered to let me take the Sharp LE830 52 inch for a slight markup. What do you guys think? Should I take the unopened unit or go for the LE830 which is a LED/LCD? Not sure how's the performance in comparison to the VT20.

While I'm sure it's a fine TV, I don't think it's really in the same league as the VT20/25. But you're comparing apples to oranges.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...contentBody;1r
post #10562 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Paul210 View Post

While I'm sure it's a fine TV, I don't think it's really in the same league as the VT20/25. But you're comparing apples to oranges.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...contentBody;1r


Got to agree with you there. A low end Sharp you will never be happy with after owning a VT20. Its just not a good deal, especially since you must throw in some more cash. Doesn't your vender have any VT30's you can replace it for? What size is your VT20/25?

Or maybe take the next size up in a GT30. Thats probably what I would be aiming for.

Mike
post #10563 of 10643
Just wanted to report that I've been experiencing the FbR issues for the past year+ on my 58" VT25. Always during dark scenes with my PS3 blurry playback and/or cable. Didn't realize it was an "issue" until visiting this forum. It was something that I'd always noticed and bugged the hell out of me. Thought it was just how this plasma did its thing. Naive I know.

The Panasonic tech support woman tried to convince me that it was my PS3 Bluray player/disc that was at fault. I simply told them I tested it on my friends samsung television, same player/movie/cables etc. and experienced no such phenomenon. Insisting that it wasn't my PS3 or Cable box that was at fault. The result? I now have someone coming to check it out this coming weekend.

I used this as my guide: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3775

Will keep all posted on any developments.
post #10564 of 10643
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Originally Posted by glnyc View Post

Just wanted to report that I've been experiencing the FbR issues for the past year+ on my 58" VT25. Always during dark scenes with my PS3 blurry playback and/or cable. Didn't realize it was an "issue" until visiting this forum. It was something that I'd always noticed and bugged the hell out of me. Thought it was just how this plasma did its thing. Naive I know.

The Panasonic tech support woman tried to convince me that it was my PS3 Bluray player/disc that was at fault. I simply told them I tested it on my friends samsung television, same player/movie/cables etc. and experienced no such phenomenon. Insisting that it wasn't my PS3 or Cable box that was at fault. The result? I now have someone coming to check it out this coming weekend.

I used this as my guide: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3775

Will keep all posted on any developments.

That fix is just for the 2011 models, there is no fix for the "floating blacks"(FbR) on the 2010 models.
post #10565 of 10643
So uh, should I call Panasonic?

Can buzzing suddenly get worse? I have a 58VT25

Last night my roommate wakes me up over what he heard from the tv, so it must of been bad. He claimed the tv was making a loud buzzing sound. Enough for him to be like, "holy #$%!". We've had the tv for nearly a year, nothing like this. Yes, it buzzes, but never enough to be a bother, only slightly when a full white screen. Plus, my roommate never noticed the normal buzzing this whole time.

I brushed it off and went back to bed until the next day when I got home and turned it on.

1: I started VierraCast from a black screen, nothing that caught me off guard just yet.

2: Selected and opened Netflix, holy bleep, I leaned forward it was so loud.

When the red netflix screen appeared, it was 10 times louder than ever before. Then when the blank white queue screen came up, even louder, so loud I thought it wasn't going to stop and pop something in the tv. From 10 feet away it was strong enough to tell it was coming from behind the tv and more localized, like a part, not just the normal ambient buzz.

I exit Netflix and tried again from a black screen, this time is wasn't as loud. So it seems to be worst when first turning it on, enough to freak me and my roommate out after nearly a year of no issues. I've always heard buzzing from day one, only a white screen would annoy me, but that's rare situation, and nothing like what it's done the last 24 hours.

I've heard of people getting the TV and not liking the buzz. Then they get it repaired or replaced and some how it helped and made it more tolerable. Has anyone experienced this? Where out of no where it just got so much louder, enough to freak you out, not just annoy?
post #10566 of 10643
I own Panny VT20 properly broken-in and used for 3000+ hours.

When I play 3D content I find the brightness too low, possibly (?) due to the nature of active shutter glasses, to the extent that I prefer using Dynamic mode.

I know using Dynamic mode is a risk factor which may cause temporary image retention or even permanent burn-in if the plasma is not properly broken-in.

My questions are:

1) Is there a possibility that IR or burn-in may occur despite my proper break-in process in the past and total hours viewed when I use Dynamic mode?

2) If your answer would be "IR may occur but burn-it would not", then my next question is: Would frequent IRs eventually cause burn-in? In other words, is there a relation with how frequent IR occurs and burn-in? The reason why I am asking this question is because, as long as IR does not eventually lead to burn-in and it disappears within a certain and relatively small period of time, it would not bother me.

Thank you!
post #10567 of 10643
Hi guys. I posted on the won't turn on thread but have had no replies. I have a 14 month old vt20 that just shut off two days ago with the dreaded 7 blinks. I need some help locating a technical manual/service manual and/or troubleshooting guide so I can replace the 3 boards I think it might be.

Currently it is at a repair shop waiting evaluation. They will send the quote to Panasonic for manager approval on an out of warranty repair.

Any words of wisdom or advice for a newbie at repairs? I also had a guy on Craigslist tell me he could repair plasmas and LCDs with used parts. He didnt seem super knowledgable about the VT20s. Are they that much different than other Panasonics?

I appreciate the help.
post #10568 of 10643
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Originally Posted by mumblyp View Post

Hi guys. I posted on the won't turn on thread but have had no replies. I have a 14 month old vt20 that just shut off two days ago with the dreaded 7 blinks. I need some help locating a technical manual/service manual and/or troubleshooting guide so I can replace the 3 boards I think it might be.

Service manuals, here you go.

http://elektrotanya.com/?q=showresul...oria=&kat2=all

Just be aware there is a 2 D/L per day limit unless you are a member of that site.
post #10569 of 10643
Thanks John, for some reason the download got hung up at 80%. Could you email it to me?
post #10570 of 10643
No, as I do not have the VT20 manual myself. And seeing that I own a VT30 and not a VT20, I also have no reason to D/L it. Plus it also may be too large of a file for email. Best thing is, to probably just try to D/L again.
post #10571 of 10643
The results are a bad SC board on a 14 month old TV. $332 for parts as labor. Petitioning Panasonic to fix it.
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well, I havent been on the forum in while, just enjoying the TV for the last 18 months Last night while watching inception i noticed what seemed the brightness suddenly changing. So decided to pay you guys a visit, and sure enough there is alot of talk about it.

I guess I should just follow this? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3775
post #10573 of 10643
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Originally Posted by thejoshster View Post

well, I havent been on the forum in while, just enjoying the TV for the last 18 months Last night while watching inception i noticed what seemed the brightness suddenly changing. So decided to pay you guys a visit, and sure enough there is alot of talk about it.

I guess I should just follow this? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3775

no
that is 30 not 25
post #10574 of 10643
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Originally Posted by CalWldLif View Post

no
that is 30 not 25

hmm, so are 25 owners out of luck? Just call Panasonic to complain and hope they do something about it?
post #10575 of 10643
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Originally Posted by thejoshster View Post

hmm, so are 25 owners out of luck? Just call Panasonic to complain and hope they do something about it?

yes we are.
I truly hope you succeed in getting Pana to acknowledge
it is NOT a feature.
Please inform the VT25 owners here, the outcome of your claim.
post #10576 of 10643
Panasonic never helped me out. It got to the point where I was getting the run around. They basically seem to outsource techs so they sent a tech out. My A-board was replaced, but that didn't help. After a few days I had called Panasonic and they told me I had to contact the company who did the repair on my set. I told them that I had called them and they told me to contact Panasonic. Panasonic then called the company who did a repair and told me at the time that I would be contacted within' 24 hours. It now has been a couple months. No call or nothing. After this I sort of just gave up as I simply didn't want to deal with it anymore, but now I feel up to calling them again.
post #10577 of 10643
Is there a way to internally reset the VT20 to factory? My Warm 2 looks exactly like Warm 1 and my Normal temperature setting is darker than both.I've reset all my current picture settings, but it's still the same. I did mess with the "internal" adjustment menu(DNice's Thread) and I changed all the values back to their defaults, but still no dice---- > Before I reset those my Normal, Warm1, and Warm 2 looked exactly the same, and now they're the ^above result. I don't ever remember it looking like this.
post #10578 of 10643
I have the 54 vt and have been watching it for a year. The floating black and brightness flaux. have never caught my attention. I am afraid to read up and theses subjects or watch a utube video of them. They may be catching.
Ha. I love this picture. It looks almost like 3D in 2D mode.
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How are your 3D active glasses holding up for those that use them with the Panasonic VT 25 series models? It's less than two years since first available and my spare active 3D glasses, I purchased for extra company, seem to be disintegrating in their storage cases. I'm finding pieces of plastic that have been breaking off the frames, just by opening them up for use. They're stored correctly in a temperature controlled living area.

The two original pairs we have each have one temple stick gone now where the plastic has cracked and it no longer can be attached to hold the glasses on one of the ears.

We have been extremely careful with all of the glasses because of their expense, taking better care than my prescription glasses.

Paul
post #10580 of 10643
For me, My tv is a little over a year old and We haven't used 3D over 20 minutes.
That is a bummer that the glasses are not holding up under use. You could call panasonic , even if you are out of warranty, to see if they will help. Call more than once.
post #10581 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post


How are your 3D active glasses holding up for those that use them with the Panasonic VT 25 series models? It's less than two years since first available and my spare active 3D glasses, I purchased for extra company, seem to be disintegrating in their storage cases. I'm finding pieces of plastic that have been breaking off the frames, just by opening them up for use. They're stored correctly in a temperature controlled living area.

The two original pairs we have each have one temple stick gone now where the plastic has cracked and it no longer can be attached to hold the glasses on one of the ears.

We have been extremely careful with all of the glasses because of their expense, taking better care than my prescription glasses.

Paul

Same here. I had a chunk of plastic come off my Gen 1 glasses and I rarely use them. And I am very careful with the glasses. So far no problems with Gen 2 or 3.
post #10582 of 10643
My latest firmware update is ver. 3.720. Do any of you vt25 owners know if any newer firmware has been released. The reason I ask is because Panasonic does not update their website that often. I heard about ver. 3.720 from you guys. Thanks for the help!
post #10583 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Ace1965 View Post

My latest firmware update is ver. 3.720. Do any of you vt25 owners know if any newer firmware has been released. The reason I ask is because Panasonic does not update their website that often. I heard about ver. 3.720 from you guys. Thanks for the help!

That's the latest one I know of.
post #10584 of 10643
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Originally Posted by kevin_mahaney View Post

That's the latest one I know of.

Thank you Kevin!
post #10585 of 10643
Quick question; will the 3-D glasses for the VT25 series work with the VT30 series displays?

Thank you, BZ
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Yes they will.
My brother has a 50VT30 and he tried the glasses that came with my VT25. They worked.
post #10587 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Den67 View Post

Yes they will.
My brother has a 50VT30 and he tried the glasses that came with my VT25. They worked.

Thank you for your reply
I downloaded the 55/65VT30 manual and it does list the glasses I got in the Avatar kit as compatible
I'm hoping to upgrade from a 54VT25 to a 65 VT30
BZ
post #10588 of 10643
I was watching Walking Dead last night and decided I had enough of the FB issue. I never realized it was a defect - I thought it was something inherent to the plasma technology. My TC-P58VT25 is my first plasma television and I've now learned it should not be like that. Just got off the phone with Panasonic thinking they might be able to solve until I discovered (reading the forums) there is no solution. They asked if CATS was on (it's not) and what my settings are. Supposedly I'll get a call back. Not that it matters - there is no fix. Absolutely ridiculous.
post #10589 of 10643
I have the vt 25 . In 2011 , Panasonic fixed this flaw . I have guess what I am asking has in been to long for Panasonic to fix this problem with the 2010 models. Also , What about floating blacks too?
post #10590 of 10643
I have a 54" VT25 and I've always noticed the FB's. As far as I've been able to tell however, either they're not as pronounced now as they used to be or i've learned to ignore them to a certain extant. I have installed some bias lighting behind the TV however now that I think about it and that may be another explanation.

I bought my father an ST30 this christmas and had it at my place for the night. I compared the black levels to mine and they were comparable, but his ST30 seemed a tad darker, with a slight bluer tint to the black levels. I have more than 3000hrs on mine and I mustve gone through 1 if not two of the rising black cycles. The floating blacks may not be as apparent now that the blacks have lightened alittle bit. I can't tell for certain. I do know that the Floating blacks don't bother me like they used to so take from that what you will.
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