Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!! - Page 52

With all this talk about the rising black levels of Panny plasmas, what is forgotten is that they start at much better black levels. Even after the rise, they are still better than Samsung plasmas:
50VT20(hdtvtest.co.uk) 0.0026fL
PN58C8000(avsforum) 0.016fL

See link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post18659162

Can someone who has or will have a 58" soon do me a favor and let me know if the wall mount holes are aligned with the center of the screen. So in other words, not offset where the screen hangs lower or higher than the center of the mount. thanks

That really happened last year? I've ordered a 54" but it hasn't arrived yet. If there's that much of a difference between the black levels (especially the difference between doubling and tripling), it might be worth it to fork out the extra cash for the 58".

Edit: Then again that was last year.

What confuses me is that VT20 according to flatpanelshd.com is 0.03dm/m^2 (it's almost 3 folds already!) as opposed to 0.0026fL which when converted roughly equals 0.0089 cd/m^2 which is quite a substantial difference. Here is the link: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.p...&id=1274347515

Also which value, cd/m^2 or fL, is supposed to triple? I ask since a 3 fold change in candela/m^2 would result in a much more significant change.

can someone tell me if the vt25's buzz at all? I have a Sammy c8000 that buzzes all the time. Sounds like an electric fence. Do all Plasmas have "plasma buzz"?

I have had BB swap the Sammy 1 other time and the new one buzzed too.

Panasonic TCP50VT25

50" coming soon to a best buy CANADA near you...

they have reached the warehouse... and soon will be making their ways in to the store...

I hoping to get 58VT25 asap. Any news when it will be coming to places such as 2001audiovideo?

Now the 65v10 is out there for around 2500. Is it worth 1500-1700 more for the 65vt25? Someone please give it to me straight! This will be my first plasma. thanks in advance

Umm. Want 3D?

Its nice but how much will one use it ? is it worth 1700 your thoughts?

yo 2500 is a sick price for v10 65

i know i bought a 50v10 and loved the picture quality...

ill lay it out for you

2009 - were wicked but they had the rising black issues... the less you know about these things the better you'll be... so dont go searching for whats wrong with them...

cuz everything will have its faults

2010 - from what i hear they are SICK... saw a demo once its hands down the BEST 3D tv... if not the BEST 2D tv ...

65vt25 is going to cost you twice as much as you would be paying for v10

although I DONT KNOW IF THE QUALITY is twice as better...

what i've seen aesthetic wise

i liked the v10 better... single sheet glass gave it very unified look... plus it was slimmer then the upcoming vt25 series ...

to sum it up... its a wicked price see if wherever you're getting it from can give it to you for 2500 OUT THE DOOR... if so JUMP on it...

otherwise get the 50inch VT25 for $3000

p.s. you may not NEED 3D but its definitely cool to have...

also think of the cost of it dude...

i currently have a ps3 and am not planning on buying the 3d BLURAY player...

im still crossing my fingers that sony will annaounce the 3D firmware update that they have promised this coming JUNE at their TV conference... *also expected to released the NEW XBR8 or something like that series 3D tv with trio-LED *i came upwith that term* where they have actual RBG leds...

You are assuming you will have to pay list for the VT25. Even a reward zone coupon will bring the price down by 12%.

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I got the 58 vt25 for that price,retail of a 50vt25 is not 3k.

sry i thought it was obvious that i was talking about CANADIAN prices considering my last two posts... right on top of the 3K price-point mentioning

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Sorry did not know that,you get epp pricing???

im not sure about 2001audiovideo

but i know it'll be here in BB - FS i dont know which one is going to carry which sizes but it should be here mid june...

Hi everybody,
Can any owner say something about the PQ difference between Pioneer FD-141 and Panasonic TC-P65VT25? Currently I own the KURO but because I am always in debt for my love of new technology..... I am pretty sure that the PQ is a lot better on the Pioneer but as an early adopter I am very interested in the Panasonic.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Dan.

Very nice!

I ordered my 50" VT25 from SEARS Canada the other day (for 2799) and it's scheduled to arrive this coming Saturday.... Can't Wait!!

P.S. they only had that price on the weekend, it's currently back up to 2999.

i will let you know i sold my 141 to fund the purchase of the 65. i looked at it as i got a full warranty, i got 5 more inches, i got 3d, i got skype, i got netflix, it all made the 141 seem dated even with better blacks. as soon as mine comes in i will be posting my thoughts on it i will also be getting it calibrated by avical in august. can't wait my 23" vizio from my kitchen is sitting on my center channel looking pathetic.

For anyone who cares about the 3d planned on DTV..bad news for any HR20 users like me!

http://hdguru.com/

Black levels are the only thing where the Pioneer 9G Kuro series barely wins. In every other aspect of PQ the Panasonic VT20/25 series win. It has less PWN noise, less buzzing, crisper and sharper PQ, more shadow detail and most important it has much more features like 3D and NetTV.

Picked up my Panasonic 50" VT25 this weekend, I walked in with the EPP price and the local manager dropped the price from 2599 to 2000 even as long as I purchased a warranty in the store also. Not a bad deal all in all.

Also I don't notice a buzzing but haven't put the TV through its full paces yet.

Hi Guys,
The VT series is (ALMOST) not yet available in Canada so I have not seen one in person. I have however seen the G20 series and I must say, having owned both Pioneer Elite and Runco panels in the past, the build quality of the G20 ***IN MY OPNION*** (no offense anyone) is crap. The bezel is cheap, cheap plastic and can eaqsily scratch.
Does the higher end VT series use a nicer qulaity bezel? If I remember correctly, last years V series had much better build quality. I'd appreciate anyones comments on the build quality and bezel of the VT series as opposed to the G20 which I have looked at.

What's the difference? You still have to have the right color of green covering most of the screen. How often is that going to happen? MAYBE during some commercial. MAYBE if your local channel screws up while the weather guy is doing his thing and you see a green screen where the weather maps should be. What's the difference between a boxing ring in a movie or on a TV program? None, really. If you don't see lines from the ropes around a boxing ring in a movie, you won't see them when there's a boxing ring on TV.

Also... the line bleed issue only seems to be a horizontal artifact, so vertical detail doesn't have the artifact, even when the screen is the right color of green. And also keep in mind the range of green screen that produces the line bleed artifact is fairly narrow so something like a jungle scene with many shades of green isn't going to produce the artifact either because the screen isn't uniform enough.

Just curious. Here it is June and I don't see VT availability at BB (or BH for that matter). I keep seeing posts here about how there was a BB shipment from the warehouse last Friday (and the like). But I don't see actual availability anywhere beyond mysterious online resellers. My local BB is non-Magnolia, and the local Fry's seems keen on Samsung anything and Mistubishi monsters.

Where are people finding these VTs?

edit: you are referring to Canadian prices.

Pointers?

Thank you very much for your input.
I really don't care about Netflix, Skype, etc... I have been using every HDTV I owned since 2004 (quite a few) as my PC Monitors, hence, I get pretty good PQ output from my overpriced video card and used every “net” based application without buying any extra stuff.
The attractive features for me are 3D and the extra 5 inches.
In any case I should try and check this out in person but, input from other HDTV passionate people is very important.
How about the look of the TV itself? The KURO is super Classy in an understated sort of way. Also I think the Panasonic is almost an inch thicker (which is not so important).
I am a bit surprised to hear that the PQ is better than the KURO. I worked as an electronics salesman for a 1½ years and my experience was that the Panasonics were about two years behind in PQ compared to the regular Pioneers (well actually, if I think about it, my KURO came out in late 2008 so this kind of makes sense, even from my probably biased point of view). In any case Pioneer and Panasonic were the brands I always recommended to people interested in PDP tech.
After you get it can you post something about the 24p performance of the set?
Please post any comments and if possible pictures,
All best,
Dan
P.S. mystikjoe, do you think you can PM me with the price you got for your FD-141, I still have about 8 months of warranty on mine.

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I am sure there are others.