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Panasonic TCP50VT25

50" coming soon to a best buy CANADA near you...

they have reached the warehouse... and soon will be making their ways in to the store...
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Originally Posted by darshan_4 View Post

Panasonic TCP50VT25

50" coming soon to a best buy CANADA near you...

they have reached the warehouse... and soon will be making their ways in to the store...

I hoping to get 58VT25 asap. Any news when it will be coming to places such as 2001audiovideo?
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Now the 65v10 is out there for around 2500. Is it worth 1500-1700 more for the 65vt25? Someone please give it to me straight! This will be my first plasma. thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by plasmanator View Post

Now the 65v10 is out there for around 2500. Is it worth 1500-1700 more for the 65vt25? Someone please give it to me straight! This will be my first plasma. thanks in advance

Umm. Want 3D?
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Umm. Want 3D?

Its nice but how much will one use it ? is it worth 1700 your thoughts?
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Originally Posted by plasmanator View Post

Now the 65v10 is out there for around 2500. Is it worth 1500-1700 more for the 65vt25? Someone please give it to me straight! This will be my first plasma. thanks in advance

yo 2500 is a sick price for v10 65

i know i bought a 50v10 and loved the picture quality...

ill lay it out for you

2009 - were wicked but they had the rising black issues... the less you know about these things the better you'll be... so dont go searching for whats wrong with them...

cuz everything will have its faults

2010 - from what i hear they are SICK... saw a demo once its hands down the BEST 3D tv... if not the BEST 2D tv ...

65vt25 is going to cost you twice as much as you would be paying for v10

although I DONT KNOW IF THE QUALITY is twice as better...

what i've seen aesthetic wise

i liked the v10 better... single sheet glass gave it very unified look... plus it was slimmer then the upcoming vt25 series ...

to sum it up... its a wicked price see if wherever you're getting it from can give it to you for 2500 OUT THE DOOR... if so JUMP on it...

otherwise get the 50inch VT25 for $3000
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p.s. you may not NEED 3D but its definitely cool to have...

also think of the cost of it dude...

i currently have a ps3 and am not planning on buying the 3d BLURAY player...

im still crossing my fingers that sony will annaounce the 3D firmware update that they have promised this coming JUNE at their TV conference... *also expected to released the NEW XBR8 or something like that series 3D tv with trio-LED *i came upwith that term* where they have actual RBG leds...
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Originally Posted by plasmanator View Post

Its nice but how much will one use it ? is it worth 1700 your thoughts?

You are assuming you will have to pay list for the VT25. Even a reward zone coupon will bring the price down by 12%.
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Originally Posted by darshan_4 View Post

yo 2500 is a sick price for v10 65

i know i bought a 50v10 and loved the picture quality...

ill lay it out for you

2009 - were wicked but they had the rising black issues... the less you know about these things the better you'll be... so dont go searching for whats wrong with them...

cuz everything will have its faults

2010 - from what i hear they are SICK... saw a demo once its hands down the BEST 3D tv... if not the BEST 2D tv ...

65vt25 is going to cost you twice as much as you would be paying for v10

although I DONT KNOW IF THE QUALITY is twice as better...

what i've seen aesthetic wise

i liked the v10 better... single sheet glass gave it very unified look... plus it was slimmer then the upcoming vt25 series ...

to sum it up... its a wicked price see if wherever you're getting it from can give it to you for 2500 OUT THE DOOR... if so JUMP on it...

otherwise get the 50inch VT25 for $3000

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I got the 58 vt25 for that price,retail of a 50vt25 is not 3k.
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Originally Posted by LORDLICH View Post

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I got the 58 vt25 for that price,retail of a 50vt25 is not 3k.

sry i thought it was obvious that i was talking about CANADIAN prices considering my last two posts... right on top of the 3K price-point mentioning
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Originally Posted by darshan_4 View Post

sry i thought it was obvious that i was talking about CANADIAN prices considering my last two posts... right on top of the 3K price-point mentioning

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Sorry did not know that,you get epp pricing???
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Originally Posted by unap16 View Post

I hoping to get 58VT25 asap. Any news when it will be coming to places such as 2001audiovideo?

im not sure about 2001audiovideo

but i know it'll be here in BB - FS i dont know which one is going to carry which sizes but it should be here mid june...
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Hi everybody,
Can any owner say something about the PQ difference between Pioneer FD-141 and Panasonic TC-P65VT25? Currently I own the KURO but because I am always in debt for my love of new technology..... I am pretty sure that the PQ is a lot better on the Pioneer but as an early adopter I am very interested in the Panasonic.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Dan.
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Originally Posted by darshan_4 View Post

Panasonic TCP50VT25

50" coming soon to a best buy CANADA near you...

they have reached the warehouse... and soon will be making their ways in to the store...


Very nice!

I ordered my 50" VT25 from SEARS Canada the other day (for 2799) and it's scheduled to arrive this coming Saturday.... Can't Wait!!

P.S. they only had that price on the weekend, it's currently back up to 2999.
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Originally Posted by danutz75 View Post

Hi everybody,
Can any owner say something about the PQ difference between Pioneer FD-141 and Panasonic TC-P65VT25? Currently I own the KURO but because I am always in debt for my love of new technology..... I am pretty sure that the PQ is a lot better on the Pioneer but as an early adopter I am very interested in the Panasonic.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Dan.

i will let you know i sold my 141 to fund the purchase of the 65. i looked at it as i got a full warranty, i got 5 more inches, i got 3d, i got skype, i got netflix, it all made the 141 seem dated even with better blacks. as soon as mine comes in i will be posting my thoughts on it i will also be getting it calibrated by avical in august. can't wait my 23" vizio from my kitchen is sitting on my center channel looking pathetic.
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For anyone who cares about the 3d planned on DTV..bad news for any HR20 users like me!

http://hdguru.com/
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Originally Posted by danutz75 View Post

Hi everybody,
Can any owner say something about the PQ difference between Pioneer FD-141 and Panasonic TC-P65VT25? Currently I own the KURO but because I am always in debt for my love of new technology..... I am pretty sure that the PQ is a lot better on the Pioneer but as an early adopter I am very interested in the Panasonic.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Dan.

Black levels are the only thing where the Pioneer 9G Kuro series barely wins. In every other aspect of PQ the Panasonic VT20/25 series win. It has less PWN noise, less buzzing, crisper and sharper PQ, more shadow detail and most important it has much more features like 3D and NetTV.
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Picked up my Panasonic 50" VT25 this weekend, I walked in with the EPP price and the local manager dropped the price from 2599 to 2000 even as long as I purchased a warranty in the store also. Not a bad deal all in all.

Also I don't notice a buzzing but haven't put the TV through its full paces yet.
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Hi Guys,
The VT series is (ALMOST) not yet available in Canada so I have not seen one in person. I have however seen the G20 series and I must say, having owned both Pioneer Elite and Runco panels in the past, the build quality of the G20 ***IN MY OPNION*** (no offense anyone) is crap. The bezel is cheap, cheap plastic and can eaqsily scratch.
Does the higher end VT series use a nicer qulaity bezel? If I remember correctly, last years V series had much better build quality. I'd appreciate anyones comments on the build quality and bezel of the VT series as opposed to the G20 which I have looked at.
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Originally Posted by dandaroy View Post

But what about [line bleed when] watching tv [rather than movies]? I have use the TV for both. I realize that during movies it will probably not be as apparent, but not sure about tv watching.

What's the difference? You still have to have the right color of green covering most of the screen. How often is that going to happen? MAYBE during some commercial. MAYBE if your local channel screws up while the weather guy is doing his thing and you see a green screen where the weather maps should be. What's the difference between a boxing ring in a movie or on a TV program? None, really. If you don't see lines from the ropes around a boxing ring in a movie, you won't see them when there's a boxing ring on TV.

Also... the line bleed issue only seems to be a horizontal artifact, so vertical detail doesn't have the artifact, even when the screen is the right color of green. And also keep in mind the range of green screen that produces the line bleed artifact is fairly narrow so something like a jungle scene with many shades of green isn't going to produce the artifact either because the screen isn't uniform enough.
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Just curious. Here it is June and I don't see VT availability at BB (or BH for that matter). I keep seeing posts here about how there was a BB shipment from the warehouse last Friday (and the like). But I don't see actual availability anywhere beyond mysterious online resellers. My local BB is non-Magnolia, and the local Fry's seems keen on Samsung anything and Mistubishi monsters.

Where are people finding these VTs?
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Originally Posted by plasmanator View Post

Now the 65v10 is out there for around 2500. Is it worth 1500-1700 more for the 65vt25? Someone please give it to me straight! This will be my first plasma. thanks in advance

edit: you are referring to Canadian prices.
post #1553 of 10650
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Originally Posted by IceCold1906 View Post

if you are paying 1500-1700 more for the VT then you need to do some more research on where to buy.

Pointers?
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Originally Posted by danutz75 View Post

Hi everybody,
Can any owner say something about the PQ difference between Pioneer FD-141 and Panasonic TC-P65VT25? Currently I own the KURO but because I am always in debt for my love of new technology..... I am pretty sure that the PQ is a lot better on the Pioneer but as an early adopter I am very interested in the Panasonic.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Dan.

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Originally Posted by mystikjoe View Post

i will let you know i sold my 141 to fund the purchase of the 65. i looked at it as i got a full warranty, i got 5 more inches, i got 3d, i got skype, i got netflix, it all made the 141 seem dated even with better blacks. as soon as mine comes in i will be posting my thoughts on it i will also be getting it calibrated by avical in august. can't wait my 23" vizio from my kitchen is sitting on my center channel looking pathetic.

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Originally Posted by $$Buck-Naked$$ View Post

Black levels are the only thing where the Pioneer 9G Kuro series barely wins. In every other aspect of PQ the Panasonic VT20/25 series win. It has less PWN noise, less buzzing, crisper and sharper PQ, more shadow detail and most important it has much more features like 3D and NetTV.

Thank you very much for your input.
I really don't care about Netflix, Skype, etc... I have been using every HDTV I owned since 2004 (quite a few) as my PC Monitors, hence, I get pretty good PQ output from my overpriced video card and used every “net” based application without buying any extra stuff.
The attractive features for me are 3D and the extra 5 inches.
In any case I should try and check this out in person but, input from other HDTV passionate people is very important.
How about the look of the TV itself? The KURO is super Classy in an understated sort of way. Also I think the Panasonic is almost an inch thicker (which is not so important).
I am a bit surprised to hear that the PQ is better than the KURO. I worked as an electronics salesman for a 1½ years and my experience was that the Panasonics were about two years behind in PQ compared to the regular Pioneers (well actually, if I think about it, my KURO came out in late 2008 so this kind of makes sense, even from my probably biased point of view). In any case Pioneer and Panasonic were the brands I always recommended to people interested in PDP tech.
After you get it can you post something about the 24p performance of the set?
Please post any comments and if possible pictures,
All best,
Dan
P.S. mystikjoe, do you think you can PM me with the price you got for your FD-141, I still have about 8 months of warranty on mine.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Phyz View Post

Just curious. Here it is June and I don't see VT availability at BB (or BH for that matter). I keep seeing posts here about how there was a BB shipment from the warehouse last Friday (and the like). But I don't see actual availability anywhere beyond mysterious online resellers. My local BB is non-Magnolia, and the local Fry's seems keen on Samsung anything and Mistubishi monsters.

Where are people finding these VTs?

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ABT
Cleveland plasma
I am sure there are others.
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Originally Posted by blstanle View Post

I returned the UN55C8000 which is the LED, not the plasma. So, no there was not a buzz. Like I mentioned, I really like it, I just did not love it for the price. My biggest complaint was off-anlge viewing and the 3-D crosstalk. I know the VT25 will have a better 3D picture from what I have seen. I do have a major concern about the VT25 in my bright room - we never watch TV in the dark and watch a lot of sports during the day on the weekends. The Samsung was stellar in this area and I may end up going back to it if the plasma can not hold up in the bright env.

My 58VT25 came in sooner than expected and I was able to pick it up Sunday. I got everything setup and spent some good time with it Sunday evening and all day Monday (thanks to the holiday). Here are my initial impressions:
Look and Feel:
-TV itself - I actually prefer the Panasonic because the black/bronze bezel goes way better with my room than the aluminum Samsung bezel. Granted, Panasonic could have made the bezel smaller, but overall I am ok with it. However, the Panny base is significantly bigger than the 4 legged Samsung and as a result, I will end up wall mounting the Panny if I keep it. My entertainment center has a narrow base and the Panny base comes right up to the edge which does not look too great.
-Remote - Panasonic remote looks and feels like a cheap toy compared to the Samsung remote. My wife asked me to remind her how much we paid while looking at the Panny remote.
-3D Glasses - Again, Panasonic falls well short here. The glasses are absolutely horrid. My wife, daughter, and I all took turns with the Panasonic glasses making adjustments as needed and all came to the same conclusion; we will not be watching any 3D unless we can get some different glasses.
Bright Light Performance:
-I was actually suprised that the Panny held its own during daytime viewing. The blacks were no where near as inky as the Samsung LED, but not unwatchable. The screen did not completely wash out like I have seen with previous plasmas. Drawing the curtains made it better, but the LED still wins here. I did not mess with the setting much and I am sure I could have cranked up the brightness a little more and it would have helped with the overall picture in the bright light.
Low Light Performance:
-Panny wins hands down. We watched Avatar on BluRay and were blown away. We were pleased with the picture on the Samsung LED, but loved it on the Panny.
3D Performance:
-It was really hard to get past the horrid glasses on the Panny, but I will say that the overall depth and crispness of the picture was far better on the Panny than the Samsung LED. Since I did not have the same content (Monsters vs Aliens on the Samsung vs 3d demo disc on the Panny), it is hard to draw concrete conclusions. However, I was impressed with the 3d on the Panny - minus the awful glasses (they were really bad if you have not figured that out yet).
Buzzing/Heat:
-The Panny has a noticeable buzz to it that was obviously not there on the LED. I could here the high pitch buzz from my main seat which is 12' away when there was no other noise in the room and the current scene had people talking - ie no background music etc. I am going to keep a close eye on this over the next couple of days, to make sure I can live with it.
-The Panny gets extremely hot - radiating from the screen and around the vents on the rear. I have a fairley good size room and can say for sure that the room temp raised 1 degree last night after 5 hours of the Panny running. Now you might argue 1 degree is not a big deal, but here in Phoenix, any extra heat in some is not very welcomed. Again, I am going to monitor this over next couple days to see how much the extra heats bothers us.

As it stands right now, I really liked the overall performance of the Panny. However, I need to figure out if the cons I listed (horrible glasses and not sure when xPand glasses will be available, buzzing, and heat) are enough of a distraction to make me return the set and either try the Samsung plasma (PN58C8000) or go back to the LED. I will keep you posted.
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Originally Posted by LORDLICH View Post

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ABT
Cleveland plasma
I am sure there are others.

So online fairly exclusively (unless you live in Cleveland). I suppose that's how it goes for a while when things are new.
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Just talked to ABT and they have the 65" TV in stock now. I scheduled the delivery and am setting up my installers as we speak!

Hopefully I can have all my installation wrapped up by Friday night so the first thing I see on my new TV is the Blackhawks winning the cup.
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Originally Posted by Sony324 View Post

Hi Guys,
The VT series is (ALMOST) not yet available in Canada so I have not seen one in person. I have however seen the G20 series and I must say, having owned both Pioneer Elite and Runco panels in the past, the build quality of the G20 ***IN MY OPNION*** (no offense anyone) is crap. The bezel is cheap, cheap plastic and can eaqsily scratch.
Does the higher end VT series use a nicer qulaity bezel? If I remember correctly, last years V series had much better build quality. I'd appreciate anyones comments on the build quality and bezel of the VT series as opposed to the G20 which I have looked at.

VT25 has a much higher quality feel than the G20. Very strong, sturdy construction.
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

You are assuming you will have to pay list for the VT25. Even a reward zone coupon will bring the price down by 12%.

I am looking to pick up a 58vt25 later this week. I have a Reward Zone coupon that is for 12% off, but under the "Home Theater" section on the front it does not mention TVs. It does say "valid at Magnolia Home Theater" on the front, and TVs aren't listed in the "exclusions" on the back, so could I use this coupon on the vt25?
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