Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!! - Page 9

hopefully you are correct

Well based on comments from a certain owner, it seems there may be some floating black issues with the VTs. I noticed D-Nice said he was able to eliminate the floating blacks on the G20 with brightness settings, but then again he is an expert calibrator, and I wonder if this required combined settings. Also, maybe the ISFccc controls on the VT25 will make it easier to eliminate this issue? Panny seems to have this one issue, along with rising blacks.

Weird comment..........walt73 was saying that Panasonic Canada rips their customers off with the outrageous markups vs the US price....and this is true.

He was not talking about importing a tv from the US.

you are correct that is what the tech told me when he came to see the problem he stated i believe it's the about dimming feature and that panasonic has had many reports and were looking into a firmware fix. the tech said wait a few weeks and then call panasonic back and see what they say or if they have a fix. i called today and they stated this is normal and there is nothing to fix and i was like WTF then why did the tech tell me it's a problem and i can see it change from dark white to normal right in front of my eyes. like i stated i think this is the last panasonic i buy. it's total bs that they say it's normal now

Every issue is normal for Panasonic. They won't get off their ass and do something about it.

i have his name and number. i was told by him to call panasonic in a couple of weeks as he stated when he came to my house they would probably have a firmware fix for this auto dimming problem. he could see the problem himself . i called panasonic and they stated this is functioning normal i was like your kidding. it's like they are trying to destroy plasma tech or at least their own which makes me mad as well because plasma is the closest you can come to crt tech right now. i would say i'm pretty much done with panasonic with all this crap that has went on. i guess no matter what problem you have on these they will just state it's normal wow

I wonder what Panasonic will do if there are enough people complaining about the floating blacks. This si by no means acceptable. floating black and rising blacks over time? I really do hope there is a FW fix in the pipes. I also hope they notice this is a real problem. Dang, i really wanted another TV too, but I might have to wait it out...

Chris, apparently not untypical for some Japanese companies that still have manufacturing facilities in Japan.

I have noticed Nikon seems to stratify their onshore vs off-shore production. Usually the high-end stays in Japan and the low-end is always offshore. The mid-range a few times will start in Japan and within a few months goes off-shore. And usually something unique about it that makes you wonder if they want to have "close hands" on it for a while before turning on the mass production spigot. I have noticed the same for Canon too, but own a lot more Nikon, so watch it more.

THe 3D VT would seem to match this pattern. And all the G20/25s I have seen are assembled in Mexico. I would guess the BB's VT20 (all five sets, since they sold out production already per PR) were the 'guinea pigs" sets. And would explain why nothing is showing up for the VT25 set yet. The VT25 series will likely be assembled in Mexico. If some VT25 are made in Japan that will rapidly change. And later VT20s all in Mexico. I doubt BB would get the cream of the crop for long.

I finally spoke with a knowledgeable tech at Panasonic today about the floating black issue. He said it IS in fact an underlying energy star POWER issue on certain models in the 2010 series: S2, U2, C2, I believe were their names. However, he said the G20 and VT20 should NOT be affected by this issue. I don't know enough about "seeding" and "electron photon disruption" and all the other things recently discussed on this thread to talk more about the issue. I just told him I thought it might have to do with needing more power to switch between light scenes and the darker blacks. He says it has been an issue in the past and it was a power issue then too.

He is taking my complaint to engineering to see if anything can be done (firmware update, etc). What disturbed me is that he said right now I am the ONLY one who has called Panasonic about this issue with a G20 set. He seems to think this never happens with a G20. I straight up don't believe that. Dozens of people are whining about this on here. Call Panasonic!!

Pictures people!!! We need pictures of your new beautiful sets with bluray movies, please and thanks!!

And he would be wrong

According to my Magnolia "Notes" (we get these every week...I work for Magnolia) The V25 50 and 54" will arrive the week before May 14th, and officially are for sale on the 14th. The 58" will be available the first week of June, and the 65" the last week of June. The 50" VT25 will be $2,599.99, $100 more than the VT20 model. We were also told that employees are not allowed discounts on the 3D TV's. So much for me buying one.

For the people who have the TX-P50VT25:
how about the sound ?

In comparaison to the V10 from last year the sound should be an upgrade because they went from 2x10W to 3x10W, probably added a smal subwoofer.

So how about the sound quality of the VT25, is it any good ?
I mean for simple stuff like watching the news,... because i understand off course that for watching a movie you are still far better off with a home cinema system.

D-nice

Have you gotten ahold of a VT20 yet for a review or when can we expect it?

Thanks

Any word when they might be released? I just don't get why they released a few VT20's to BB and not a few VT25's to specialty shops such as yourself.

Actually, the longer we wait, the better the chance Panasonic may make some changes to the firmware-------that's a big "maybe".

VT20 vs C7000

http://gizmodo.com/5501900/the-best-...yline=true&s=i

True, I just want my new TV now lol..

That's LCD vs Plasma, I want to see Plasma vs Plasma.....I guess we'll have to wait.

Chris, do you think the the big sets 58/65 would be made in Mexico as well?

Hey, I've been without (a big screen) since Christmas. Looks like I have to wait at least until June for the 58"---Hope no longer.

Is the VT20/25 the best set of 2010? If these sets are having floating blacks as well, do I have any other option in the market over the next few months that can compete on colors and deep blacks? What other plasma is there that comes close? Samsung, LG?

I question the practicality of any 3D television. how useful will 3D become in real day to day usage. We have a family of five and most of the 2010 3D sets come with one pair of glasses so add anywhere from 400.00 dollars to 600.00 for 3D glasses. Next consider wearing 3D glasses for an extended period of time. I imagine the phase out of phase effect used to produce a 3D image will produce eye strain over time. Finally, every thing no tied to the television is eventually damaged or lost resulting in possible multiple purchases for 3D glasses. I am carefully following this thread, but at this point I am confident I am buying the best television I can find for my price range, if it happens the set has 3D, great. If not, will you really miss it??

i agree with you some plus i'm not impressed with the new 3D at least not the samsung my wife and i saw tonight at BB. they had monsters vs aliens 3D playing and i had my wife set down and we watched it for a bit. she asked me after about 30 seconds whats the big deal and i said it's the new 3D and she said oh ok. its a step up from the colored glasses but i agree with the person who posted they think the screen size needs to be pretty big in order to enjoy it like maybe 70+ inch screen or projector. i just don't see people forking over $2400+ for a 50 inch tv just for the 3d plus the cost of more 3D glasses. all the 3D movies i have ever watched were much better in the theater then at home mostly because of the screen size . i personally rather see 1080p broadcast then 3D movies/sporting events just my 2 cents