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fhschellenberg,
Yep, I'm the same guy. Who else would've come up such a goofy moniker as "Wilbur The Goose"!

- Dan
post #7682 of 10643
Was wondering if anybody got their local hhgregg to match the york hhgreegg deal?
post #7683 of 10643
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Originally Posted by wilbur_the_goose View Post

i'm shopping...

Easy question - would you buy this set again? (this is my #1 option today, but i need some confirmation)

yes!
post #7684 of 10643
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Originally Posted by wilbur_the_goose View Post

I'm shopping...

Easy question - would you buy this set again? (This is my #1 option today, but I need some confirmation)

Absolutely...no question. I LOVE my set.
post #7685 of 10643
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Originally Posted by wilbur_the_goose View Post

I'm shopping...

Easy question - would you buy this set again? (This is my #1 option today, but I need some confirmation)

Absolutely, no doubt in my mind. I have the 58VT25.
post #7686 of 10643
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Originally Posted by cp316 View Post

Was wondering if anybody got their local hhgregg to match the york hhgreegg deal?

I did. I know a few other folks said they had success as well though I think even more folks were not succesfull. To be honest, my local HHGregg didn't put up much of a fight. They called the York store to confirm the deal and then matched it for me.
post #7687 of 10643
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Originally Posted by dada8787 View Post

next is greyed out

That's odd, are you sure you selected the right display type?
post #7688 of 10643
Has anyone using D-nice's settings compared them to a calibration disc? I didn't use his break in slides. I tried calibrating using the AVS disc/download but couldn't quite get the colors right as noticed on the RGB high & low clipping slides. With his SM & normal menu settings it looked a lot better compared to the calib DVD but when viewing some hd movies faces looked very slightly shaded green.

Also, the panel seems a bit darker now compared to cnet's thx menu settings I was using.

Any comments?
post #7689 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Rhialto View Post

It is if you already own the 3D Vision kit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play.html

The 3D vision kit is an IR transmitter and active shutter glasses turn your existing PC monitor into a 3D one.
You don't need all that hardware because you already have it in your VT25 (or whatever else 3DTV).
IIRC the 3DTV Play software would be free for everyone who already have purchased 3D Vision kit and around $40 as a standalone package for those who don't have and don't need 3D Vision.
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Has anyone purchased a warranty on the VT25 from HHgregg? I was wondering if their "NEW" warranty might cover contrast changes, since they claim the appliance will be repaired or replaced if not operating like new - up to 5 years.

I usually pass on these warranties, since they are typically a waste of money for the consumer and stores make a lot of money on these. But just curious what some of you decided...
post #7691 of 10643
Will updating firmware reset my calibrations in the service menu?
post #7692 of 10643
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Originally Posted by frohlich View Post
i did. I know a few other folks said they had success as well though i think even more folks were not succesfull. To be honest, my local hhgregg didn't put up much of a fight. They called the york store to confirm the deal and then matched it for me.

+1
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Originally Posted by barmalei View Post
IIRC the 3DTV Play software would be free for everyone who already have purchased 3D Vision kit and around $40 as a standalone package for those who don't have and don't need 3D Vision.
Exactly what I was saying...
post #7694 of 10643
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Originally Posted by dada8787 View Post
Hi all

I just got my VT25 and have question.

I understand that in order to connect my computer to TV i need to install new nvidia drivers plus 3D Vision .

After that i need to enable stereoscopic 3d in nvidia settings , am i correct?

Now here it comes problem... After enabling 3d stereoscopic i get promted to set up Nvidia 3D vision. (blue/green screen)
And it ask me for IR Emitter ???? Im unable to proceed because i dont have that emitter connected!
What do i missing here?

Why do i need emitter if im connecting PC directly to my TV?? (hdmi) ?
If i try to see 3d content from my pc on my TV it does not work no metter what i do!
Anyone can help me?
You don't need any kind of of emitter if your using an nVidia card. My GT 220 has been playing 2D/3D conversions for over a month now along with Blu-ray 3D. Don't hook up your PC to your receiver if it's not 1.4 spec'ed. The nVidia drivers should detect your 3D TV as stereoscopic when going through the nVida wizard. The first thing you should see is a prompt to turn on your glasses, from there you will be guided through the set up process. Once you get through the octagon and triangle test you should be set up for Blu-ray 3D. If you have PowerDVD Mark II then you can convert 2D stuff into 3D.
Once you get it all working then you can try to hook it up to your receiver.

My set up is like this, 3D HTPC nVidia GT 220 latest drivers, two HDMI cables one going to my SC-07 receiver and the other going to VT25. When I want to watch 3D I just enable the 3D switch on the nV control panel. From there I can either choose Win 10, PDVD or Total Media by Arcsoft. Cyberlink is the only player that will convert 2D to 3D, I never bothered to buy the Arcsoft plugin for 3D, as everybody else gives it to you for free.
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Originally Posted by modboxx View Post
Will updating firmware reset my calibrations in the service menu?
No.
post #7696 of 10643
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Originally Posted by sgupta View Post

Hey all - proud 65VT25 owner, and I've noticed something that seems strange to me, and I just want to make sure it's normal.

Assuming there's an image on screen with a light background (white or gray) and something black (be it a bar in a test pattern or say, an iPad in a commercial) on that background, I notice what I can only describe as a shadow. That is...the sections of black seem to extend out from the object across the screen, resulting in a slightly darker white or gray color than the rest of the image.

The best way I can describe it...assume the screen is completely white, and there's a black square on the screen is represented by |||. Where that square ends, in the *white* part of the screen, it's a slightly darker white and extends *exactly* where the square is horizontally all the way across the screen, but only as high as the object (exactly). It looks a bit like this, with the :::'s representing in the "shadow".

:::|||:::

This is usually completely unnoticeable during normal viewing situations (I'm in THX mode), but occasionally makes itself known (for example that iPad commercial, or a logo in the middle of an otherwise blank screen).

I've also noticed it both on DirecTV sources and even Blu-Ray test patterns.

Is this normal?

Thanks!

Can you take a picture that shows this?
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Originally Posted by WiFi-Spy View Post

Can you take a picture that shows this?

Yup - will try; not sure I'm going to be home tonight so might be tomorrow; thanks!
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does anyone know how to get into the service menu. 58VT25 and love it, i got the light output bumped up, i dont have equipment to test, but i would venture to guess 55 FtL, maybe more
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Originally Posted by borat!!! View Post

does anyone know how to get into the service menu. 58VT25 and love it, i got the light output bumped up, i dont have equipment to test, but i would venture to guess 55 FtL, maybe more

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...u#post19042034
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Originally Posted by sgupta View Post

Hey all - proud 65VT25 owner, and I've noticed something that seems strange to me, and I just want to make sure it's normal.

Assuming there's an image on screen with a light background (white or gray) and something black (be it a bar in a test pattern or say, an iPad in a commercial) on that background, I notice what I can only describe as a shadow. That is...the sections of black seem to extend out from the object across the screen, resulting in a slightly darker white or gray color than the rest of the image.

The best way I can describe it...assume the screen is completely white, and there's a black square on the screen is represented by |||. Where that square ends, in the *white* part of the screen, it's a slightly darker white and extends *exactly* where the square is horizontally all the way across the screen, but only as high as the object (exactly). It looks a bit like this, with the :::'s representing in the "shadow".

:::|||:::

This is usually completely unnoticeable during normal viewing situations (I'm in THX mode), but occasionally makes itself known (for example that iPad commercial, or a logo in the middle of an otherwise blank screen).

I've also noticed it both on DirecTV sources and even Blu-Ray test patterns.

Is this normal?

Thanks!

It sounds like line bleed to me. Search the term on this forum to find descriptions/examples. If that's what it is, all plasmas have it. The green "This preview suitable for all ages" screen that preceeds movie trailers is famous for showing this effect.
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Originally Posted by cp316 View Post

Was wondering if anybody got their local hhgregg to match the york hhgreegg deal?

I just tried tonight, talking with the Operations Manager - to see if he would do a 30 day price match, but he claimed to call the main office and they stated that they wouldn't do it because the York, PA location has a Grand Opening price and it's only for that area...

He offered me a free surge protector. Better than nothing I suppose.
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My HHGregg is close to matching the price. They won't tell me their final price until I go into the store. There may be a travel price since they have none in stock. My next question is this. This TV only comes with one pair of glasses...and no bundle is included on the high end tv...is there anywhere to get glasses since I have four kids. Seems silly that I am going to pay another 600 for glasses....was hoping they would throw in a bundle at least with the high end tv
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Originally Posted by cp316 View Post

My HHGregg is close to matching the price. They won't tell me their final price until I go into the store. There may be a travel price since they have none in stock. My next question is this. This TV only comes with one pair of glasses...and no bundle is included on the high end tv...is there anywhere to get glasses since I have four kids. Seems silly that I am going to pay another 600 for glasses....was hoping they would throw in a bundle at least with the high end tv

Are you purchasing a 58" or 65"? The 58" should come with a bundle, the 65" sometimes do not.
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Originally Posted by cp316 View Post

My HHGregg is close to matching the price. They won't tell me their final price until I go into the store. There may be a travel price since they have none in stock. My next question is this. This TV only comes with one pair of glasses...and no bundle is included on the high end tv...is there anywhere to get glasses since I have four kids. Seems silly that I am going to pay another 600 for glasses....was hoping they would throw in a bundle at least with the high end tv

I had them sell me the 3d essentials for list but now that I have it I am kinda sorry that I bought it. The reason is that the glasses are way to big especially for kids. The new glasses which you can buy from Japan but not locally yet come in 3 different sizes with small for kids being one of them.
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sgupta, line bleed, normally exists on most plasmas, and have certainly seen it on the vt25, but perhaps you have an abnormal amount of it, maybe worthy of posting a pic?

edit: didn't notice some people already replied, because i was on page 256 for some reason =O =P
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Originally Posted by wfmiller View Post

I had them sell me the 3d essentials for list but now that I have it I am kinda sorry that I bought it. The reason is that the glasses are way to big especially for kids. The new glasses which you can buy from Japan but not locally yet come in 3 different sizes with small for kids being one of them.

Actually you can buy them here in the states b&h photo has them but very pricey.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes
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I apologize ahead of time for this but i've been searching and searching and cannot find the answer. I'm looking for these "d nice" settings for my 65vt25 and cannot find them anywhere. Anyone help me out here?

Also I finally went into the service menu and checked my hours and I've got 150 on it so I bumped the settings back up (had the contrast lower for the break in) and watt he'd Avatar last night on THX mode and this tv just comes alive. Looks truly amazing, the colors, black levels just amazing.
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I went to two different stores last weekend to look at this TV.

At one, they were showing a movie on blu-ray. What I saw were a lot of close-up scenes of people talking, so there was a lot of normal movement that you would see in any movie - people walking across the screen, etc. I noticed an incredible amount of flicker each time this happened, as did the person I was with. We both thought it was unwatchable. The store was closing, however, so we didn't have time to get someone to let us play around with settings.

We headed to Best Buy. They were playing Best Buy ads on their TVs, so bright white, yellow, and blue images with lots of moving text etc. They had the VT25 sitting next to a Quattron. At first I thought the VT25 looked better, but then I noticed that the edges of text moving slowly across the screen were also flickering. No such trouble on the Quattron, which I had looked at months ago and had decided I really didn't like it.

Complicating things more, I had been at a high-end audio/video store a few weeks ago looking at audio equipment, not TVs, but I noticed a 65" Panasonic plasma, properly calibrated in a low-light room playing an animated movie, and I had said that that was the best TV I'd ever seen. I looked at the model number and was sure I'd remember it, but I immediately forgot it. The store is quite a drive away, so I can't just run back to look at it. I can only imagine it was the VT25 though. They had a Quattron nearby as well, playing the same movie, and the Quattron looked absolutely terrible in comparison.

From that, and from everything I had read here and elsewhere, I was ready to buy this TV. Is there some magic "crazy flicker"-inducing setting that is on by default that places like Best Buy would be using?

Basically, can anyone explain this madness? I'd be ready to buy this TV if it weren't for this flickering that I've noticed 2/3 times looking at it! And I can be sure it's not just my eyes playing tricks, because all 3 times I was with the same person and he noticed the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Calan View Post

From that, and from everything I had read here and elsewhere, I was ready to buy this TV. Is there some magic "crazy flicker"-inducing setting that is on by default that places like Best Buy would be using?

Basically, can anyone explain this madness? I'd be ready to buy this TV if it weren't for this flickering that I've noticed 2/3 times looking at it! And I can be sure it's not just my eyes playing tricks, because all 3 times I was with the same person and he noticed the same thing.

There is some flicker present when the display is running in "torch mode", and which reduces to nearly nothing when the set is correctly calibrated. It's also been suggested that the florescent lights in stores might cause enhanced flickering. In any case I'd put exactly zero faith in anything I saw at BB under any circumstances. The other store you saw it at prolly had it set to THX mode which is much better but still not calibrated.
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