Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!! - Page 284

I got 3 new gen 2 panny glasses. 2 of the 3 have issues. During 3D playback they momentarily seem to blur on one lense, appear to go out of 3d for a millisecond, happens quite often, thought it was low battery but not the case. This happened on Clash of Titans and Legend of the Guardians. I will be contacting Panasonic. I have sent back the original glasses to panasonic as the battery had a bad connection. Not impressed with the glasses to date.

Hurk

My 50TV25 (a few days old) never had any flickering pixels at all, even during the slideshows like you are running. What happens on a normal (TV, Blu-Ray) signal? If there's any hint of flicker under normal operations, send it back, stat.

Sorry to hear about your troubles with the new glasses.

Depending on the image on screen, the pixels light up white/red/blue, it light on and off all the time as soon the image changes. I was hoping it would stop after a while.

Hi:
I'm expecting my plasma tomorrow morning and I have a question regarding the initial installation of the stand. Do you guys lay the television down on its' face when installing the stand? Can you do this with a plasma without damaging it? I've always heard that you never lay a plasma down. Any other alternatives?
Thanks!

How big a difference is there between the medium and large versions of the glasses? For someone who the medium fits, is wearing the large glasses problematic in any way?

There's no problem laying a plasma display flat. The recommendation to not lay it flat is during transport, where the display could be subject to sharp bumps, which may place more strain than you want on the glass panel, especially on the larger panels.

But those considerations are also generally made for shipping environments; there is a difference in shipping a plasma in a box by truck versus laying it down and carrying it in the back of your fancy SUV with the cushy suspension.

If you have 3 people, 2 could hold the plasma vertically while the third attaches the supports for the stand, avoiding laying it down flat. But there's no reason to avoid laying it down flat just to attach the supports for the stand or any other mount.

I personally wouldn't lay it down to mount the pedestal. Since the pedestal overhangs both the front an back of the display you would need to lay it down on something with the bottom of the display sticking off the surface (table?) to allow clearance to mount the pedestal. It is much easier to mount the poles in the pedestal base, set the pedestal on the floor next to the display which is still in the box, then pick the display up and set it gently on the poles. Then just secure the display to the poles with the four supplied screws.

What size did you get? My 54" was delivered this morning so I unpacked it and set it up by myself using the above method since nobody else was around (but I would highly recommend having two people to do this, especially if you got the 58" or 65" it would become mandatory).

Hey everyone, new member here. I am looking to buy the 50vt20 at best buy because they seem to be running a good package deal. I was wondering what the difference between the 20 and the 25 were and if it has a big impact on my viewing. I will be upgrading from a Samsung DLP (HL56A650) which I love but it's about time i embrace plasma.

Should i jump on this purchase? Or will next years models be better and cheaper?

Thanks in advance and I'm looking forward to participating in the community.

To the people who have owned this set for a while, do the black levels really get that bad over time? Or it's just a minor difference?

I like my Samsung A650 lcd, but I hate the black levels on it, and being forced to leave the lights of the room on so that the blacks don't look like greys. Was thinking of upgrading to a VT25 but I keep hearing about rising black levels...

Thanks

Can someone post the website where you check your Avatar 3D status?

I ordered the Medium size based on the info I found here:
http://www.today3d.com/2010/07/panas...d-glasses.html

ie.
Target (approximate head circumference):
TY-EW3D2SW (S size): 48-53cm
TY-EW3D2MW (M size): 53-60cm
TY-EW3D2LW (L size): 60cm

NB: I'm assuming the L size is meant to be >60cm?

I grabbed a tape measure and measured my head circumference as approx 58cm, so figured the Medium were the ones to go for. Guess I'll find out if they are right when they finally arrive.

Slightly modified from the other thread...

New 58VT25 owner here...
I've been meaning to calibrate to my perfect preferences for gaming (PS3 mostly) and have found default THX mode is too washed out at times while Game mode is too contrast-y and unrealistic. I would also like to know if some of the processing features will detract or add to the PQ/performance. Input lag doesn't seem to be an issue to the so-called advantages of Game mode seems null with the obvious disadvantages (unrealistic jagged contrast look). Blacks are perfect deep all-around, but whites and certain colors are very washed out. I can't seem to find a balance where things aren't washed out in menus and picture isn't unrealistic contrast/saturation. Is there a devoted thread here for PS3/360 calibration for 2010 Panny's (specifically VT20/25) or is it all withheld in here?

Here you go: http://www.panasonicconsumerrebates.com/

Panasonic got back to me within the hour (email) and said that If I was further than 10 feet from TV the Glasses would not receive signal accurately and this would cause the intermittent off/on. I am 12 feet away, I will try 2 feet closer!

Hurk

Does this happen while watching a normal source? If yes then I would consider returning it. If this is just seen while watching the burn in slides, I wouldn't be concerned at all.

Does anyone know if any non-Panasonic brand glasses have this same limited range? While I realize you don't want to be too far away while watching 3D stuff, I nevertheless have a large den and the seating arrangement is what it is.

I'm 13' away and have no issues at all. It's more likely that you have some obstruction or reflective surfaces interfering. Other IR sources can also cause interference.

Tom,

My question is why are the slide's not lighting that section up to begin with? I think it is strange the slides are not covering the whole panel. They did cover the whole panel when I ran them on mine.

Bruf,

Does the same thing happen when the slides change to another color?

James

I didn't have any issue guiding the display onto the poles. I set the display in front of the pedestal, visually aligned the center of display with the center of the pedestal, picked it up, moved it a few inches and set it right onto the poles.

#1 piece of advise - get somebody to help you. It is very easy for 2 people to do this and then move the display where you want it.

Hopefully someone could help you, I never could get the colors to look right.

1. Check out the settings thread if you haven't yet.
2. Use "Custom" for gaming.
3. I've compiled some of the more referenced published settings (and noted their dependencies) here: https://spreadsheets0.google.com/ccc...CI6nr-0I#gid=0

The PS3 / Xbox settings for video game use are the trick, aren't they? Right now, I've got something close to TwoPlusTwo's custom settings dialed in, and they look pretty good for 2D. James Cameron settings for 3D look... well, impressive, but I'm too distracted by the 3D stuff still to have a PQ opinion yet. More testing required.

I believe that the VT20 is the same as the VT25.

No, there are some differences beside the color of the bezel. Mostly involving advanced setup and calibration which may or may not be of interest to a potential buyer.

ISFccc Day/Night modes, Studio Ref Mode, Pro Settings & RS232C for remote/PC control.

FYI, the Pioneer Kuro (6020/151fd) instructions explicitly state that you should lay it face down on a large flat surface covered with a cloth or other soft material to install the stand, so don't worry about it.

I received mine on Monday, 54 inch VT25, the stand is easy to put together and has two posts, finger sized, that stand up a left and right but they will only go on one way.
The TV has two matching holes / receptacles in the bottom of the set to receive the posts, the posts go inside the set.
After putting the stand together you will need to pick up the TV from the box base and insert the posts into the TV receptacles. You should have help not because of weight, unless like me you have a weight restriction, but because of size and being unbalanced.
All in all fairly easy. Mine is on the stand going through the break in while I assemble the wall mount.
Not sure what size you have but the 50 inch looks similar per the owner’s manual that you can download from the Panasonic web site.
If you lay the set down you will have more problems due to the size of the stand and trying to wrestle with a large TV, IMO keeping it upright would be best.

I just got my vt25 a few weeks ago and have been very impressed so far. I have some initial buzzing, but it seems to be getting a bit better. I have noticed no floating blacks, or an overall change in the letterbox black bars in dark to high contrast scene transitions.

I do have this problem that I haven't heard talked about. During fade to black scenes, dark scenes and transitions, I can see fluctuations in the black level, but only horizontal bars that sort of flicker slowly. They are in the center or horizon of the screen, and the bars will flicker in and out within I'd say a 10 in band in the middle of the screen. Though the letter boxes stay constant during movies, it seems the bars are the only things on the screen that change brightness. I can notice this on all inputs, all settings, so I can't make it go away. And the kicker is that I see it on an all black background, like PS3 menu transitions.

So a question, am I seeing floating blacks? Are the FB done a different way on the vt25, so that they are confined to the horizontal midline of the screen? These flashing bars don't bother me when I have lights on in the ht room, because the light washes them out, but when viewing in the dark they are pretty noticeable. I'm afraid it might be one of the video processing boards or power boards.

Anyone else see anything similar? I'll try to take some pictures, though its tough.

I got the small glasses as all they had and I thought this would be okay for granddaughter. The small was find for me, fit very comfortable. I then bought another small and a medium for me to fit over my eyeglasses, fit is fine. I think the Large would be quite big...

Hurk

I'm planning to get a T25 this weekend, and I was wondering about upkeep. I currently have the back of my LCD TV about 2 feet from the wall w/ a window. And a few hours of the day the sunlight hits the back of the TV. And it's not in full force, just a couple of rays here and there. I was considering having new blinds put up that can block the sun entirely.. but then there are times that I like to have it open and let the sun in.

So i guess my question is this: Is having sun light hitting the back of the plasma a bad thing? Obviously it would be better if this was not the case, but will it have any detrimental effects to the longevity?


Also, one more thing if you all don't mind: It's laziness, but I don't want to look through this entire thread to find everyone opinions. But what is the overall consensus on the P50VT25? Is it worth it, or better off waiting to buy a 3D TV till a later date? I'll also be upgrading from a 5-6 year old 42'inch LCD lol
Thanks

Thanks. I kinda felt this in one way or another, but my only real issue is our Xbox. For those who game may know what I am saying, but many games are pretty dark and it's difficult to see what's going on in certain parts, particularly with shooters. It seems that I have to turn up the brightness every time when gaming. Ultimately, I ran optical to my Xbox and cable, leaving Bluray on HDMI.