Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!! - Page 314

Originally Posted by bigwillystyles

Thanks for the advice and suggestion. I did think about getting a Roku, only heard good things. Do you have a monthly subscription with Roku, or do you just pay your monthly NetFlix subscription.

With that said, don't they make bluray players with Wi-Fi capabilities? Do they work the same way as Rokus?

Let me throw another curve ball, I've heard you can do everything we just talked about with the dongle, Roku, Wi-Fi Blu-Ray but with either the XBox or PS3. I'm also thinking about getting one of those not only for games but using them as a media device.

Any testimonials, success stories, horror stories? The only think with getting the XBox or PS3 for NetFlix is that you have to subscribe to their online service first correct?

In a nutshell, I'm looking to get hooked up with NetFlix and be able to stream and access my PC movies and pics wirelessly. What would be the best setup and/or device for me to execute this.

Thanks!!

W.

Originally Posted by chodalad

Got it, also just put my contrast down to under 50 for gaming seems to be less ir. Wow for the average user breaking a set in and understanding the rules can be a bit much, good thing places like avs exist!!!

Originally Posted by JOB189

I've got a 58VT25 that I have until Saturday to return. My first choice that I tried at home was the PN637000 which buzzed to loud to tolerate. I then moved to the 58PN7000 which also buzzed excessively and could not be tolerated. The problem I'm having deciding to keep the 58VT is that the picture is not knocking my socks off like either one of the Sammy displays did. I am also constantly making adjustments every time I watch TV to try in get the detail/precision/sharpness that I saw in the other models.
I got the 58VT,BDT-100 and Ultimate 3D kit with Avatar for under $2K. I feel like I got such a great deal that I almost have to keep the set and learn to like it but I swear at times I get so frustrated with the picture not being as detailed that I want to kick the darn thing. Dont get me wrong, its not that the picture quality is bad but it seems a tad bit muted when side by side against the other sets. I have been told by all of the salesman that I have questioned about my dilemma and they insure me that the 58VT is a better quality TV as far as build,processing and components and they say that it has the best rated picture for 2010 but I am having difficulty in being fully convinced. I have to agree that the 3D is superior on this set to the others that I tried.
At the end of the day I am not sitting on my couch grinning at the screen like i did when I had the other sets playing and that is what is bothering me. Sorry to gripe but I am looking for that last bit of info that I may be missing as far as settings/reliability/firmware upgrades or what have you to get me to decide whether this thing should stay or go back. Thanks

Originally Posted by JOB189

I am also constantly making adjustments every time I watch TV to try in get the detail/precision/sharpness that I saw in the other models.
I got the 58VT,BDT-100 and Ultimate 3D kit with Avatar for under $2K. I feel like I got such a great deal that I almost have to keep the set and learn to like it but I swear at times I get so frustrated with the picture not being as detailed that I want to kick the darn thing. Dont get me wrong, its not that the picture quality is bad but it seems a tad bit muted when side by side against the other sets.
At the end of the day I am not sitting on my couch grinning at the screen like i did when I had the other sets playing and that is what is bothering me. Sorry to gripe but I am looking for that last bit of info that I may be missing as far as settings/reliability/firmware upgrades or what have you to get me to decide whether this thing should stay or go back. Thanks

Originally Posted by JOB189

At the end of the day I am not sitting on my couch grinning at the screen like i did when I had the other sets playing and that is what is bothering me. Sorry to gripe but I am looking for that last bit of info that I may be missing as far as settings/reliability/firmware upgrades or what have you to get me to decide whether this thing should stay or go back. Thanks

Originally Posted by JOB189

I've got a 58VT25 that I have until Saturday to return. My first choice that I tried at home was the PN637000 which buzzed to loud to tolerate. I then moved to the 58PN7000 which also buzzed excessively and could not be tolerated. The problem I'm having deciding to keep the 58VT is that the picture is not knocking my socks off like either one of the Sammy displays did. I am also constantly making adjustments every time I watch TV to try in get the detail/precision/sharpness that I saw in the other models.
I got the 58VT,BDT-100 and Ultimate 3D kit with Avatar for under $2K. I feel like I got such a great deal that I almost have to keep the set and learn to like it but I swear at times I get so frustrated with the picture not being as detailed that I want to kick the darn thing. Dont get me wrong, its not that the picture quality is bad but it seems a tad bit muted when side by side against the other sets. I have been told by all of the salesman that I have questioned about my dilemma and they insure me that the 58VT is a better quality TV as far as build,processing and components and they say that it has the best rated picture for 2010 but I am having difficulty in being fully convinced. I have to agree that the 3D is superior on this set to the others that I tried.
At the end of the day I am not sitting on my couch grinning at the screen like i did when I had the other sets playing and that is what is bothering me. Sorry to gripe but I am looking for that last bit of info that I may be missing as far as settings/reliability/firmware upgrades or what have you to get me to decide whether this thing should stay or go back. Thanks

Originally Posted by htwaits

There are two things that I think may be going on. One is that you like exaggerated colors, and the other is that your new display just needs a quality professional calibration. There might also be a problem with the lighting conditions when you are watching your display.

You can find out what other owners think about having their plasma displays calibrated by checking out post number two in the thread that's linked at the bottom of my post.

The best calibrators travel to several parts of the country, so you should be able to find a good one who will come to your area as part of a tour.

Originally Posted by turbo94gt

So let me get this straight. You spend 2k on a tv and then on top of that have to spend another 300 to get a professional calibration to get an acceptible picture that should be there from the factory?

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

You can make the same argument against ANY display, at any price. The simple fact is that no TV's have calibrated images from the factory. You wouldn't think twice about spending $300-400 for a single speaker, and most visits from the plumber cost as much. So what's wrong with spending that amount to get an obviously superior image? There's no mystery to it, but it does require pro-quality meters and software to do the job correctly.

It's also true that many people need to be educated about what actually is an accurate display, and a pro calibrator is the best person to do the teaching.

Originally Posted by bigwillystyles

First off, thank you all for all your responses, shared testimonials and advice on all my Roku, Wi-Fi dongle, PS3 and Xbox questions. I'm still on the fence but I'm now leaning more towards the Roku or the PS3.

I'm sure other have asked about this before (even just recently), I'm about to take my VT25 out of the box and I want to know if there is a formal burn-in process, a step-by step process to help me burn-in my plasma.

Thanks and sorry for the redundancy.

W.

Originally Posted by turbo94gt

I am contemplating taking it back and getting the c8000 or waiting for the 2011 plasmas.

Originally Posted by spbull472

I'm having problems finding the section in this long thread that discusses how to properly break in a VT25. Mine gets here on Saturday and I just want to make sure that I'm patient and break it in accordingly. Can anyone direct me accordingly?

This is my first new TV since my old Sony 27" HDTV CRT

Thanks!

Originally Posted by turbo94gt

So let me get this straight. You spend 2k on a tv and then on top of that have to spend another 300 to get a professional calibration to get an acceptible picture that should be there from the factory?

Originally Posted by htwaits

Nope. But you have to spend some money to get the best image out of any display. Not many people have calibrations done, but almost without exception, people at AVS have reported satisfaction with the cost and the results. (See the link below.)

It's a matter of personal choice. The reason I replied was that two other plasma displays had been returned due to buzzing. A professional calibration is one option if the original poster wants to keep his VT.

It's also true that plasma isn't for everyone. It depends on how you use your display. I've helped relatives buy displays and the score is LCD (3) Plasma (1). Personally I think a calibrated plasma is best for movies (SD-DVD and Blu-ray). For gamers, and those that watch mostly TV or streaming, I think LCD is best.

Originally Posted by dudeface1

FYI i broke in my 58vt25 for 200+ hours (tv was on entire time, running slides when tv wasn't in use and watching full screen content when home--no gaming, no content with tickers/high contrast logos), applied d-nice's settings for UM and SM, james cameron for 3d (gamma to 2.2, panel brightness to mid). no issues with burn in or image retention here. I watched a couple of lakers games on custom (high contrast)....one game was on espn with the ticker on the bottom.

I play a lot of black ops as well...I use jc's 3d setting for campaign, but i play multiplayer in 2d-game mode (contrast is 100 i believe). Gaming sessions are 2 to 3 hours. Of course I watch a lot of full screen content in between.

hope this helps...enjoy your awesome set!

Originally Posted by KNace

Just purchased a VT20 from BestBuy with the Avatar bundle and BluRay player for a GREAT price. I think mine was the last in the store, for the first time in my life I don't feel taken for a ride by a brick and mortar store. If you have the opportunity to pick one up with this package - DO IT!

Originally Posted by turbo94gt

I am in the same situation. I bought a vt20 a week and half ago and the picture is not blowing me away either. I am contemplating taking it back and getting the c8000 or waiting for the 2011 plasmas. I have already applied the dnice settings on the other thread but it doesnt do much. Still alot of grain and not much pop on high def content. Bluray is good but i think it could be better.

Originally Posted by turbo94gt

I am in the same situation. I bought a vt20 a week and half ago and the picture is not blowing me away either. I am contemplating taking it back and getting the c8000 or waiting for the 2011 plasmas. I have already applied the dnice settings on the other thread but it doesnt do much. Still alot of grain and not much pop on high def content. Bluray is good but i think it could be better.