Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!! - Page 318

I don't mean to scare anyone. I'm just looking for a solution. My set was fine until a few weeks ago.

Well another full day of running the break-in slides and there's still an ESPN logo in one corner, "LIVE" in another, and black squared up the left side. Still gonna give it a bit more time, but really - this is all because of 2 hours of college basketball? If it's still there after the weekend I'm going to have to look into what the warranty covers.

Am I helping myself by re-running the slides over night and during the day when I'm at work? Is that going to help if this is only really bad IR?

Just let the slices run, try leaving the tv on for a day and run the slices the entire day without turning it off. And see what happens. Leaving your tv on Wont do any damage. When I first bought mine I left my set on for 4-5 days straight with the slices.

Oh I'm not afraid to leave it on - like I posted earlier, I did the whole DNice 100 hour break in + "calibration" when I first got it. The slides have been running non-stop since Tuesday night. I'm watching TV now (well, it's on but I'm not watching it because I can't stand staring at a goddam ESPN logo) but I'm going to run the slides all night again. I figured 48 straight hours of slides would take care of any IR. That's why I'm worried.

Man you definitely got some serious IR! With my set I can notice IR if I let a fixed picture for more than 5min but it quickly disappears after 2 second of putting a new image. I won't mess with ESPN wife they are notorious about their "wonderful" logo. They should fix that issue or at least get a new logo in my opinion.

I've read and it seems from my personal experience that "full screen action" (the more action the better) with no logos is better than color screen slides for eliminating IR/burn-in.

Good luck. It took me around 2,000 hours of use before I totally got rid of a logo and screen crawl line from a news channel. My wife watches the channel during the day for "background". We now use a DVDO Edge to zoom and pan the logo and crawls out of the picture.

IMO it is better to run regular TV content because that will cause a greater change in dynamic range on the screen. What I suggest is a non-logo station like any from HBO. Turn to VIVID setting, this will exercise the pixels and the panels AGC circuits. Should be unreadable in a few hours and gone in a day.

Make sure your pixel orbiter is ON.

Or run a pixar movie on full screen

Yes, great. Anything with a lot of screen changing light to dark. The slides don't exercise the pixel voltage that much.

Also the THX mode although great for viewing, its really limits the upside panel brightness with the AGC.

Has anyone noticed , lack of a better term, rainbow effect in shaded areas of black and white movies? I really noticed it in Sleepy Hollow blu ray. I am planning on getting my vt58 calibrated real soon. Will this take care of this problem? I am using d-nices settings is there something I can change in settings to help this?

Hey all new owner here, not sure for how much longer though. Bought my first 54 vt25 as a display model, thought it was a open box return. got it home to find really bad screen burn (sports ticker) and 3,000 hours it, back to the store it went. they had told me they had no more vt's but as soon as i said i was gonna exchange for a cheaper samsung a brand new one appeared from the back of the store. So i said great and took it home. started doing the set up, it finished doing channel scan and then there was loud pop from the back of the set and it shut down with the front red light blinking. i unplugged it for awhile then tried again and it came back on, called panasonic and was told since i did not count the blinks they could not do anything for me, but it would happen again, and sure enough yesterday my wife called saying it popped and shut down. called the store where i bought it and was told they were discontinued and none were in the system and a manager would call sometime today. kinda sucks really i got the deal with the dvd player and 2 pairs of glasses and have not even had a chance to watch avatar yet.

You are not mapping 1 to 1 pixel on your screen. Go into screen size and select FULL screen not 95% of screen. Moire pattern will disappear.

For me it was the opposite. Full screen watching didnt make a dent but the slides took away ir in 15-45 minutes of use

I don't know...what's harder, fatherhood or owning a plasma?

Fatherhood not by much.

So you guys are saying that there is actually a chance using slides or movie in vivid setting (I bet a 3D movie would work well!) that I can remove the ESPN "RUNDOWN" ghost image from the PTI show that appears against solid backgrounds on my VT25? It's been there for a month or so I think but my mind just started focussing on it this week. The image retention wiper is useless. I hope I'm not getting my hopes up for nothing.

I had some bad COD black ops ir issues and espn (even returned my first tv because of it) and this is how I fixed it. May or may not work for you I hope it does.

When I received my 2nd new tv I called Panasonic about the problems of the first TV and what I should do to not repeat them. Keep in mind I dont feel that 2 hours of espn or 2 hours of COD black ops is abuse or neglect but I wanted it from the horses mouth on how to take care of my set. The tech was very helpful but very vague in many of the questions that I asked. Example question: How long can I leave a channel like espn on before I should worry about burn in or ir. The reply: I cant give you an answer to that but if you run the scrolling bar (it does not wipe right away; you run the bar then watch normal tv/run slides and it helps image remove easier and faster overtime. From Panasonic Tech) then watch normal full screen tv. So after a conversation with them and some hints from a few people on this forum I do this method to remove my ir: run the scrolling bar then slides for 15-45 minutes (up the contrast when you do this to 100 % and set slides to slow) or if its bad ir a few hours to overnight. This has fixed it each time in my situation. Even when I watched a basketball game on ESPN or played COD black ops for a few hours. I hope it works for you, good luck!

Chodalad,

Thanks!

Ken

I had the same problem.. here are my posts a few weeks ago in this thread..




To me, it sounds like you have Burn-In and not Image Retention. If your set is fairly new, you might be able to convince them its a bad panel and have it replaced, like I was able to do. They did try to tell me that Burn In isnt covered under warranty and is considered "normal use". After complaining that I spent $2500 for a new TV and I have Burn In after less than a week of normal viewing, they decided to help me out. I was extremely lucky and I wish you luck if thats the road you choose to travel!

FWIW, with my replacement TV, I havent had Burn In issues at all. I do get bad image rention but that goes away after a few hours.

I also was lucky and got a new tv but from BB under the 30 day return policy. I am an avid MLB fan and will be watching tons of ESPN and Padres games. I have about 300 hours on the set and if you check out my post above details my talks with Panasonic and issues with this set and ir or burn in. Since you have now been careful with the set for the first 100 hours are you able to watch a game now without the same problems or is this the bad ir you are getting but goes away now?

I watch ESPN ALOT.. sports is my life, so I still watch ESPN for 3+ hours at a time. I get real bad ESPN logo and ticker IR, so after each viewing "session" I run the scroll bar for 30 minutes to warm up the panel and then I will either watch a Blu Ray movie or watch ESPN with the screen format set to ZOOM, so the logo isnt visible. Also, since ESPN leaves the logo and ticker on during commercials, I run the scroll bar for a few minutes while commercials are running.

I also get minor IR from other channel logos like Food Network and Science Channel, not nearly as bad as ESPN though.

I feel you about the sports thing and espn (I watch about 3+hours a day) and run the scroll for 15 minutes then watch full screen tv or run slides to get rid of it. So basically you just were careful during the break in period of your second set and now you are all good.

Thought I would give my experience. I have had three Panasonic Plasmas and the first 120 hours I would flip back and forth on nicktoons, cartoon network, and nick jr. All on SD and low contrast level. I know there are the static logos but not one TV to this date has had any issues with IR.

My reasoning for this choice was because of all the movement that goes on with those channels and the use of colors. No research other than what made the most since to me.

I did wait for those 120 hours until I started to play movies and games. I have kids so they helped the process.

Thanks!

I'm running the slide show. Wish me luck but I'm not confident. Worse than I thought. I can see time above "RUNDOWN" as well as ESPN and scroll bar across the bottom of the screen. My favorite show really did a number on my plasma.

I will try a movie in vivid setting tomorrow.

If that doesn't work, I 'll stay on Panasonic.. With 5 months in, I am not optimistic. I may have to adapt to the burn in or write a big check. Ouch!

I never had any issues with my Kuro.

Are you running the break in slides or just pictures?

Break in slides--I really think it's burn in. Kind of bummed out over this.

Break in slides. I will try running overnight. I'm pretty sure this is burn in. I'm bummed out over this. The time is actually locked in place above the RUNDOWN ghost. I don't ever remember pausing my TV for more than 30 to 45 seconds max, so how could this happen?

I watched the same programming for over a year on my Kuro without issue. (The Kuro is now in my MBR.)

Usually it happens because the TV is not correctly calibrated, is running too bright in other words. The brighter the image, the faster the IR.

I've been using it in THX mode with minor tweaks. Mostly using Home Theater Mag settings. Not like I've been running it in vivid mode.

Been lurking here for a couple of days now and pardon the intrusion, I know this thread is for the VT series but as a happy new owner of a TC-P42G25 (delivered Feb. 08) I too had discovered what most here would describe as an 'image retention'. While setting up 'Audyssey' from my new Home Theater receiver, the brand name logo seem to have embedded on my screen and doesn't want to go away. I've been combatting it now for more that 3 days in every imaginable way and I can still pick out the faint image from D-Nice's' break-in slides; especially during light to light gray images are displayed.

Luckily, the faint image retention is hardly noticeable at 99% of the time but I can still spot it when watching animated movies like 'UP' with scenes of light colored skies similar to the slides. This is also due to the fact that I know where to look for it exactly. According to the time duration, I hate to admit it and seriously think that this is also a 'burn-in', other than that the set works fine and when watching regular movies or programs, I can't see it even though I know where the flaw lies. With this, I'm also afraid that more will follow even though I am doing my best to "breaking it in". So much for owning a plasma huh?