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post #9781 of 10643
Great respond. I wish Panny would include a little HOURS counter. Wouldn't that be nice to know how many hours one have abused their love? =)



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Originally Posted by soxthecat View Post

IR should become less an less of a concern as the set ages. Panasonic lets us know what they think of panel aging by the way they program their sets to respond. At 1500 hours the panel voltage begins to increase because of the lower response from the phosphor cells. This increase cause a slight black level rise. This programmed response continues until about 5000 hours when the panel voltage stabilizes. Black level rise stops then as well. At this point IR should be clearing up the fastest it every will.

Burn in can happen anytime if the set is abused. But normal viewing should not cause burn in, but will give you some IR.
post #9782 of 10643
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Originally Posted by MrKiller View Post

My LCD is a Bravia from 2007, and it didn't have any fancy features such as motion interpolation.

According to Sony's release notes back in 2007 Bravia's XBR all had motion flow:


Sony's new BRAVIA LCD 2007 models, with IVL support

In addition to new micro-displays and the Internet Video Link streaming device, Sony also announced seven BRAVIA LCD sets today. There are two 1080p-capable displays in 40- and 46-inch sizes (KDL-46V3000 and KDL-40V3000), three 720p sets in 26, 40, and 46 inches (KDL-26S3000, KDL-40S3000, and KDL-46S3000), and a pair of 32-inch models (KDL-32S3000 and KDL-32XBR4). The V-series 1080p sets can accept 1080/60p and 24p signals via their HDMI or component inputs, and have the advanced Bravia EX engine for higher-quality upconversion. The 32-inch XBR model has three of the 1080/60p/24p HDMI inputs, and uses Sony's Motionflow 120Hz motion compensation, which creates unique frames to help eliminate blurring and motion artifacts. All the sets have 10-bit color for more capable color gradients, Bravia's video processing engine, and Theatre Sync for control connection between compatible devices. The displays also utilize Sony's XMB Xross Media Bar interface. The XBR and S-series models will be available this spring, while the other sets will come out in the summer -- pricing has not been announced for any of these models.
post #9783 of 10643
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Originally Posted by MrKiller View Post

I've had this set for a week now, and I've noticed a few problems with 24p.

Flickering is very noticeable at 48hz, and somewhat noticeable at 60hz and 96hz. Honestly, I don't mind the flickering since I don't have it set at 48hz. So flickering is not a real problem for me. What seems to be a problem, is motion blur and judder at 24p.

24p is definitely not as smooth as I had though. The judder is visible during panning shots. I saw a huge judder and false contouring in Prince of Persia when the camera panned upwards to show a castle. In Night at the Museum there is a scene where the character is moving across the screen (the camera is fairly still). When I had 24p off, this scene looks alright. It looked just like how it would if I had used an LCD. But when I turned 24p on, the judder and false contouring increased significantly.

Thankfully, these types of shots causing troubling judder have been rare. However; there is still motion blur when using 24p. When there is any movement and the camera is focused on them, there is noticeable blur. Its not ghosting, and its not terrible, but its certainly noticeable and not smooth. Blur reduction does not help.

Do all 24p TV's suffer from this? Is it just this model? Or is there something wrong with my set? I need to know if I have a defective set (if that is the case). Again, everything seems to be fine with the tv; its only the blur and occasional judder in 24p.

Read this:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm

Get back to me if you still have questions.
post #9784 of 10643
Found one!

Picked me up the last V20 in the area today.

Now what? lol

THX mode is great-anybody have a link to the custom settings?
post #9785 of 10643
You can find the settings that D-Nice Posted in the thread: The Official 2010 Panasonic Settings/Issues under Plasma Flat Panel Displays.
post #9786 of 10643
So I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I'm going to have to live with my burn in. It's not noticeable most of the time (but when it is, it sucks.)

Question - I've only been watching ESPN on zoom since this happened, but if I go back to watching it the regular way (which I do for no more than 2 - 2.5 hours at a time when there's a game on) can it actually make the burn-in worse? I mean, are those pixels more susceptible to further damage now?
post #9787 of 10643
I am having a couple of issues with my VT20, my first issue is IR seems abnormally bad and the second is that my 3D glasses constantly switch in and out of 3D.

When I say abnormally I get IR after 10 seconds of white lettering being on the screen. An example being the opening credits of Avatar where there is white lettering on black, I can see the image after it changes over to the next credit.

A little background on the TV. The TV is 6 months old and has 1200 hrs on it, I ran the break in slides and configured it according to the settings D-Nice had posted. The TV looks awesome, the image really pops. I still have my original service menu settings that I had changed. I like to game, but am afraid to game on the TV seeing what happens after 10 seconds of a still image being on there. I feel like I cant even use the TV for what is was made for.

I have many friends who have Plasmas and I have never seen a TV get IR as easily as mine does. Has anyone else seen\\experienced the same problem with this TV and or have any suggestions? I thought by now IR would be less of an issue with 1200 hrs. Also if anyone has experienced the same problem with 3D and could help I would appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by SuperMachoMan View Post
Question - I've only been watching ESPN on zoom since this happened, but if I go back to watching it the regular way (which I do for no more than 2 - 2.5 hours at a time when there's a game on) can it actually make the burn-in worse? I mean, are those pixels more susceptible to further damage now?
What you are referring to as burn-in is actually uneven wear on your pixels in the area where you see image retention. If you can still see an image in that area, and you play the same image in the same area, the uneven wear will only get more uneven (worse).

That's why it's recommended that you watch a mixture of source materials, and minimize fixed images.

If what you have is image retention, then once the retained images are gone, that area of your screen is no different than any other area of the screen. If you have real burn-in, then any time you watch the same fixed images, the burn-in will get worse.
post #9789 of 10643
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Originally Posted by soxthecat View Post
According to Sony's release notes back in 2007 Bravia's XBR all had motion flow:


Sony's new BRAVIA LCD 2007 models, with IVL support

In addition to new micro-displays and the Internet Video Link streaming device, Sony also announced seven BRAVIA LCD sets today. There are two 1080p-capable displays in 40- and 46-inch sizes (KDL-46V3000 and KDL-40V3000), three 720p sets in 26, 40, and 46 inches (KDL-26S3000, KDL-40S3000, and KDL-46S3000), and a pair of 32-inch models (KDL-32S3000 and KDL-32XBR4). The V-series 1080p sets can accept 1080/60p and 24p signals via their HDMI or component inputs, and have the advanced Bravia EX engine for higher-quality upconversion. The 32-inch XBR model has three of the 1080/60p/24p HDMI inputs, and uses Sony's Motionflow 120Hz motion compensation, which creates unique frames to help eliminate blurring and motion artifacts. All the sets have 10-bit color for more capable color gradients, Bravia's video processing engine, and Theatre Sync for control connection between compatible devices. The displays also utilize Sony's XMB Xross Media Bar interface. The XBR and S-series models will be available this spring, while the other sets will come out in the summer -- pricing has not been announced for any of these models.
I should have been more clear. I bought the Bravia in 2007, however I'm pretty sure it was produced in 2006. Its a V2500 series and I'm certain it has no motion flow feature.
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Originally Posted by soxthecat View Post
Read this:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm

Get back to me if you still have questions.
I had thought that the VT20 would have a smooth 24p playback (I had read people praising the 96hz, and some commenting on the smoothness of 24p). So all 24p capable TVs without frame interpolation suffer this way? I'm surprised at how the European VT20 has IFC and the NA VT20 has motion blur, which is practically useless. After watching a few more films, I can say that during regular movement, I definitely see some kind of a blur and not regular judder. I see judder and contouring occasionally during pans and some fast movements. With 24p off, I would describe most movements as judder, somewhat similar to my LCD. But with 24p on, its more of a blur than judder. For example (in 24p) when people are moving towards the camera (vertical motion), or someone slowly moves across the screen, it causes blur rather than judder. Blur might not be the right word, but I do know what else to call it. Is this normal? I didn't see this being mentioned in the article.
post #9790 of 10643
now what to do---panasonic will have huge shipping problems and long delays on vt30s -- and all new japanese electronics and products----- due to tsunami and earthquake--not to mention price increases -- just a thought.
post #9791 of 10643
Quote:
Originally Posted by weth3r_man View Post
I am having a couple of issues with my VT20, my first issue is IR seems abnormally bad and the second is that my 3D glasses constantly switch in and out of 3D.

When I say abnormally I get IR after 10 seconds of white lettering being on the screen. An example being the opening credits of Avatar where there is white lettering on black, I can see the image after it changes over to the next credit.

A little background on the TV. The TV is 6 months old and has 1200 hrs on it, I ran the break in slides and configured it according to the settings D-Nice had posted. The TV looks awesome, the image really pops. I still have my original service menu settings that I had changed. I like to game, but am afraid to game on the TV seeing what happens after 10 seconds of a still image being on there. I feel like I cant even use the TV for what is was made for.

I have many friends who have Plasmas and I have never seen a TV get IR as easily as mine does. Has anyone else seen\\experienced the same problem with this TV and or have any suggestions? I thought by now IR would be less of an issue with 1200 hrs. Also if anyone has experienced the same problem with 3D and could help I would appreciate it.
I had same problem with 3D Glasses. I was sitting to from from TV, should be no more than 10'. I was at 12', moved to 9.5 no more problems.

Hurk
post #9792 of 10643
So I did some google searching and found the forum...even found a few posts with members describing some of the issues I too am having. So I could REALLY use some help/suggestions on what to do about my Panasonic TC-P50VT25, that I've had since November, 2010:

~First off, the fans: I had a fan go extremely noisy about a month ago anytime the set was on. This was the center fan, and it basically sounded like a film projector was being run out of the back of the set. I called Geek Squad and they sent a guy out, who agreed the fan was no good. He ordered all 3 new and came back a week later to replace them all just in case. He also pointed out that the fans were actually a new different part then the ones it came with. Now...about 2 weeks later, the CENTER fan again is starting to get noisy. Especially if the TV is on for closer to 3-4 hrs. I can't figure out how all 3 fans seem to be interchangeable, yet here again the exact same one (even being a different part) is acting up.

Anybody else hear this??? What do I do? I'll call Geek Squad again, but don't want to jest keep trying the same solution.

~Next issue is the buzzing that my TV seems to make. It seems to make different volume busses based on the picture changing on the screen. So I thought this was maybe due to signal from my DVR/cable. I tried switching the HDMI cable in case one wasn't shielded, and tried different inputs as well, but to no avail. I've read that extremely bright picture has a tendency to buss, but this is like a different volume buzz every 30-60 seconds while watching regular TV. Also, we didn't seem to hear this until about 2-3 weeks ago and now it's nonstop. Could the fan replacement somehow have triggered this???

~And lastly, I've seen somme posts asking if the TC-P50VT25 has an auto-dimming effect especially while set to THX mode. The only responses I've seen address the white levels v. the THX capacity for black, etc...but I don't know if this is the same thing as I'm seeing on my set. Even when watching a blu-ray, the whole light level of the picture changes from a deep-black to slightly-lightened (including the letterbox bars) back and forth all through whatever I'm watching any time the scene changes. It's pretty annoying and noticeable, as if someone's turning a light switch on and off in the room while your watching the TV. Is this just how these plasmas work? Am I over critical, or is my set just turning out to be a lemon?

Needless to say I'm really frustrated and upset about the TV. It was an investment for my small income, and though it seemed to be great for the first few weeks- it seems like the whole thing's falling apart on me.

PLEASE shoot me some suggestions, tips, etc...I'm filled with anxiety over this!
post #9793 of 10643
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Originally Posted by weth3r_man View Post

the second is that my 3D glasses constantly switch in and out of 3D.

Make sure you have direct line of site to the sensors on the set. If anything is even partially blocking them it will cause these issues.
post #9794 of 10643
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Originally Posted by SapGoblin View Post


~Next issue is the buzzing that my TV seems to make. It seems to make different volume busses based on the picture changing on the screen. So I thought this was maybe due to signal from my DVR/cable. I tried switching the HDMI cable in case one wasn't shielded, and tried different inputs as well, but to no avail. I've read that extremely bright picture has a tendency to buss, but this is like a different volume buzz every 30-60 seconds while watching regular TV. Also, we didn't seem to hear this until about 2-3 weeks ago and now it's nonstop. Could the fan replacement somehow have triggered this???

~And lastly, I've seen somme posts asking if the TC-P50VT25 has an auto-dimming effect especially while set to THX mode. The only responses I've seen address the white levels v. the THX capacity for black, etc...but I don't know if this is the same thing as I'm seeing on my set. Even when watching a blu-ray, the whole light level of the picture changes from a deep-black to slightly-lightened (including the letterbox bars) back and forth all through whatever I'm watching any time the scene changes. It's pretty annoying and noticeable, as if someone's turning a light switch on and off in the room while your watching the TV. Is this just how these plasmas work? Am I over critical, or is my set just turning out to be a lemon?

No idea on the fans. Mine doesn't have any fans.

The buzzing you describe is typical. Some panels are worse than others, some people are more sensitive to it. Its due to varying current demands on the power supply depending on the picture. A bright white image will make the current surge and if there is buzzing it will increase in volume. Apparently, there may be fixes for this including replacing PSU boards, or damping areas of the circuit board/components with a sealant/glue to stop the vibrations.

The last thing you describe is, i'm fairly certain, the infamous floating blacks problem. There's a thread all about this that you may wish to view. I don't notice FBs on my panel, and I'm not about to go looking for them.

hope that helps
post #9795 of 10643
thanks. that helps with the buzzing. Perhaps I'm being too critical.

I'll check into the floating-blacks thread.

Now, if anyone can help with the fan issue....
post #9796 of 10643
1. I have not experienced fan noise. (Sitting 5 feet in front of TV).

2. My TV run quiet, no buzzing sound. However, it does make strange click sound after I turned off the TV. The sound goes away once it cool down.

3. I do experience how certain dark scene all of a sudden become a bit brighter in THX mode. However, the brightness does not show up on the letterbox black bars (if I remember correctly). There is an option in Custom mode that allow you to turn off the auto brightness compensate, "A.G.C" However, this option is not available for THX Mode. In custom mode, I set it to zero.

Suggestion, definitely make tons of phone call until these issue are being fixed and better do it before your warranty expired. Good luck.

TO ALL OTHERS:
IR (Image Retention) - Yes, my TV have that problem. At least, it will go away if you start playing more fullscreen content.

Burn-in - No, I did not do any of the 500 hrs burn-in thingy, I did watch a lot of 3D content for the past few months, plus lots of gaming.

Custom mode - I calibrate 2D myself (seem to work fine), used James Cameron's 3D setting, with some tweak here and there if need to. Normally, I would just use his wonderful setting, with the exception, I use "MID" brightness.

I don't watch TV.

Yes, this is my first Plasma TV. Taking a risk before 2012. Oh well...

Good luck everyone. ~ Enjoy ~



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Originally Posted by SapGoblin View Post

So I did some google searching and found the forum...even found a few posts with members describing some of the issues I too am having. So I could REALLY use some help/suggestions on what to do about my Panasonic TC-P50VT25, that I've had since November, 2010:

~First off, the fans: I had a fan go extremely noisy about a month ago anytime the set was on. This was the center fan, and it basically sounded like a film projector was being run out of the back of the set. I called Geek Squad and they sent a guy out, who agreed the fan was no good. He ordered all 3 new and came back a week later to replace them all just in case. He also pointed out that the fans were actually a new different part then the ones it came with. Now...about 2 weeks later, the CENTER fan again is starting to get noisy. Especially if the TV is on for closer to 3-4 hrs. I can't figure out how all 3 fans seem to be interchangeable, yet here again the exact same one (even being a different part) is acting up.

Anybody else hear this??? What do I do? I'll call Geek Squad again, but don't want to jest keep trying the same solution.

~Next issue is the buzzing that my TV seems to make. It seems to make different volume busses based on the picture changing on the screen. So I thought this was maybe due to signal from my DVR/cable. I tried switching the HDMI cable in case one wasn't shielded, and tried different inputs as well, but to no avail. I've read that extremely bright picture has a tendency to buss, but this is like a different volume buzz every 30-60 seconds while watching regular TV. Also, we didn't seem to hear this until about 2-3 weeks ago and now it's nonstop. Could the fan replacement somehow have triggered this???

~And lastly, I've seen somme posts asking if the TC-P50VT25 has an auto-dimming effect especially while set to THX mode. The only responses I've seen address the white levels v. the THX capacity for black, etc...but I don't know if this is the same thing as I'm seeing on my set. Even when watching a blu-ray, the whole light level of the picture changes from a deep-black to slightly-lightened (including the letterbox bars) back and forth all through whatever I'm watching any time the scene changes. It's pretty annoying and noticeable, as if someone's turning a light switch on and off in the room while your watching the TV. Is this just how these plasmas work? Am I over critical, or is my set just turning out to be a lemon?

Needless to say I'm really frustrated and upset about the TV. It was an investment for my small income, and though it seemed to be great for the first few weeks- it seems like the whole thing's falling apart on me.

PLEASE shoot me some suggestions, tips, etc...I'm filled with anxiety over this!
post #9797 of 10643
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Originally Posted by QCamera View Post

Suggestion, definitely make tons of phone call until these issue are being fixed and better do it before your warranty expired. Good luck.

Yeah- I've been at it all afternoon....Best I could get, is the Geek Squad guy is coming back Thursday to check everything out. Thing is, my fan issue doesn't come into play until the set has been on for a few hrs. (just a few, not several). So I have to warm it up...

I'll report back in case anyone else has the problems in the future.
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Originally Posted by SapGoblin View Post

Yeah- I've been at it all afternoon....Best I could get, is the Geek Squad guy is coming back Thursday to check everything out. Thing is, my fan issue doesn't come into play until the set has been on for a few hrs. (just a few, not several). So I have to warm it up...

I'll report back in case anyone else has the problems in the future.

I had the exact same issue with my first VT20. After a few hours of the TV being on I could here the fan from all the way across the room (25 ft), I took mine back to the store.
post #9799 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Hurk View Post

I had same problem with 3D Glasses. I was sitting to from from TV, should be no more than 10'. I was at 12', moved to 9.5 no more problems.

Hurk

It turns out I was actually sitting to close to the TV. Initially I spoke with a panasonic rep at BB and he said many of the glasses ship with bad batteries, I swapped batteries with no luck. After reading your reply I tested getting closer to the TV and it started to get worse, I backed away slowly and found the sweet spot.
post #9800 of 10643
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

What you are referring to as burn-in is actually uneven wear on your pixels in the area where you see image retention. If you can still see an image in that area, and you play the same image in the same area, the uneven wear will only get more uneven (worse).

That's why it's recommended that you watch a mixture of source materials, and minimize fixed images.

If what you have is image retention, then once the retained images are gone, that area of your screen is no different than any other area of the screen. If you have real burn-in, then any time you watch the same fixed images, the burn-in will get worse.

Damn. It's burn in, not IR. I've posted a few times about my experiences trying to get rid of it, but it's permanent, from 2.5 hours of basketball. I get IR, and it goes away either on its own or with the wipe. This, after nearly a month, ain't no IR.
post #9801 of 10643
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Originally Posted by supermachoman View Post

damn. It's burn in, not ir. I've posted a few times about my experiences trying to get rid of it, but it's permanent, from 2.5 hours of basketball. I get ir, and it goes away either on its own or with the wipe. This, after nearly a month, ain't no ir.

x2.
post #9802 of 10643
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Originally Posted by SuperMachoMan View Post

This, after nearly a month, ain't no IR.

Did you buy it from a store with a 30 return policy?
post #9803 of 10643
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMachoMan View Post

Damn. It's burn in, not IR. I've posted a few times about my experiences trying to get rid of it, but it's permanent, from 2.5 hours of basketball. I get IR, and it goes away either on its own or with the wipe. This, after nearly a month, ain't no IR.

The first 100-200 hours are crucial . When I first got the set I noticed IR after having static image (white Netflix logo on Xbox) on the screen for just about 10 seconds while the video loaded. It quickly went away but after breaking it in, this doesn't happen.

Did you watch the basketball at high contrast during the first 100 hours? I would return it if at all possible.

I recommend setting the Pixel Orbiter to 1 minute and contrast/brightness no higher than 50 during the break-in period if not breaking in with slides.
post #9804 of 10643
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Originally Posted by weth3r_man View Post

I had the exact same issue with my first VT20. After a few hours of the TV being on I could here the fan from all the way across the room (25 ft), I took mine back to the store.

Good to hear I'm not alone...sadly mine just started doing this at like 3 months old though. So I have to go the repair route instead of returns...which I'm not hopeful about, since this is about to be take 2. I'm hoping they just give up and replace it!
post #9805 of 10643
I currently have a Vizio XVT473SV and am potentially looking for another set as my main and putting this in my bedroom because the motion leaves much to be desired. A lot of judder/blur.

I've read through much of this thread, looking particularly into motion. I want as perfect of motion I can get for blu-rays, and most tv's seem to not be able to handle it.

Overall, between the 60hz and 96hz modes, how is motion for blu-rays? Which is 'better' seems to be highly subjective, but even so, what do you guys recommend?

Does this set have great motion, or should I look elsewhere?

Probably 90% of the time, I'd be using this set for 2D blu-ray viewing, so that's what I care about when talking about motion.
post #9806 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Vader182 View Post

I currently have a Vizio XVT473SV and am potentially looking for another set as my main and putting this in my bedroom because the motion leaves much to be desired. A lot of judder/blur.

I've read through much of this thread, looking particularly into motion. I want as perfect of motion I can get for blu-rays, and most tv's seem to not be able to handle it.

Overall, between the 60hz and 96hz modes, how is motion for blu-rays? Which is 'better' seems to be highly subjective, but even so, what do you guys recommend?

Does this set have great motion, or should I look elsewhere?

Probably 90% of the time, I'd be using this set for 2D blu-ray viewing, so that's what I care about when talking about motion.

Depends upon what you mean by "motion".

If you mean true cinematic motion unadulterated then any VT25 will be a great set. VT25 does no motion interpolation. You also get the THX certified mode which gives that exact cinema experience in dim lighting, just like at the theatre.

If you want all the judder removed then you need something like a Sony with all the video processing. Not a movie experience.

96Hz is the preferred viewing of 24p content.
post #9807 of 10643
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Originally Posted by soxthecat View Post

Depends upon what you mean by "motion".

If you mean true cinematic motion unadulterated then any VT25 will be a great set. VT25 does no motion interpolation. You also get the THX certified mode which gives that exact cinema experience in dim lighting, just like at the theatre.

If you want all the judder removed then you need something like a Sony with all the video processing. Not a movie experience.

96Hz is the preferred viewing of 24p content.

Meaning there won't be any artificial judder added I wouldn't see in a theater?
post #9808 of 10643
Hi All,

Having a strange problem with my VT25 while watching Blu-Rays on my PS3.

If dark scene is displayed it seems like the TV tries to adjust the brightness to make the dark scene appear brighter. The entire scene looks washed out then and the black bars (for letterboxed content) look more gray than black.

When the scene goes back to a normally lit scene everything is fine. If screen brightness cycles this happens continually so it's kind of annoying.

TV set on "THX" display mode, 96hz selected for 24p direct in.


1) Is this a known problem?
2) Is there a setting change I can make to alleviate the issue?
post #9809 of 10643
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Originally Posted by RampageSTi View Post

This is just a thought, but is it someone taking a picture with the flash on near the camera? I notice it all the time with hockey games. Makes the screen go white for a
split second or so.

Hi, has any one figured the white flash on the Panny???? have noticed it myself, wife pointed it out to me only when watching a movie with our Blu ray player, just a thought think that its the Blu player, any other thoughts????

Hello, Hello is any one Home any responses??????
post #9810 of 10643
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Originally Posted by Vader182 View Post

Meaning there won't be any artificial judder added I wouldn't see in a theater?

Correct. Displays such as the Panasonic and others that either do not have motion interpolation or where you can switch it off gives the most theatre like presentation on a HDTV. As I'm sure your aware interpolation of frames to smooth the content often give the picture the "soap opera feel".

You may not have some smooth pans as that is how it is on the film. As to motion blur, if the object was moving fast as the film was exposed, nothing will clean that up.

96Hz is needed to reduce flicker because since the light is being produce in front of you eyes vs. reflected off a screen the flicker becomes more prominent. By displaying each frame 4 times reduces this effect without a compromise to the 24p material. 60Hz will introduce cadence error when the set has to fit 24 fps into 60 frames per second.
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