AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › The Official TC-P65S2 Owner's Discussion Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Official TC-P65S2 Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 2

post #31 of 1176
5/17/10 at 7:33pm
No word over here yet
Cleveland Plasma Insider
» Get the latest news and updates at the Cleveland Plasma sponsor page.
Reply
Cleveland Plasma Insider
» Get the latest news and updates at the Cleveland Plasma sponsor page.
Reply

AVS Top Picks

post #32 of 1176
5/18/10 at 3:47pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tfoltz View Post

Panasonic has finally listed the 65S2 on their website for pre-order (Original Price $2,799.95). The EPP price isn't as good as I was hoping for.

No offence, but I informed everyone of that a few days ago on this thread - scroll back
Reply
Reply
post #33 of 1176
5/18/10 at 4:00pm
Sole glory has been given back to you.
Reply
Reply
post #34 of 1176
5/18/10 at 4:18pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by eonibm View Post

The TC-P65S2, which supersedes last year's model (the TC-P65S1, which I just cancelled my order for so I could get the S2), is due out soon so I thought that it was time that it had its own thread. (Cleveland Plasma's website says it's due out any day now).

Hmmmmm.... Interesting, so you decided the new features in the S2 outweigh floating blacks (which are reportedly in the S2 but not in the S1).

I assume that is the consensus of anyone planning to become a 65S2 owner.
Reply
Reply
post #35 of 1176
5/24/10 at 10:52am
My source says they are getting the 65 s2 on 06-01-10. I have my order in & should get delivery on 06-03-10
Reply
Reply
post #36 of 1176
5/24/10 at 3:29pm
Who?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommypannys2 View Post

My source says they are getting the 65 s2 on 06-01-10. I have my order in & should get delivery on 06-03-10
Reply
Reply
post #37 of 1176
6/2/10 at 5:54am
False alert. My date has now been change to July
Reply
Reply
post #38 of 1176
6/2/10 at 9:03am
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommypannys2 View Post

False alert. My date has now been change to July

Amazon still shows June 7th shipdate, where did you see July? If it is July, maybe I should just go with the S1
Reply
Reply
post #39 of 1176
6/2/10 at 10:12am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOB HAN View Post

Amazon still shows June 7th shipdate, where did you see July? If it is July, maybe I should just go with the S1

My source was not Amazon
Reply
Reply
post #40 of 1176
6/2/10 at 12:25pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

Hmmmmm.... Interesting, so you decided the new features in the S2 outweigh floating blacks (which are reportedly in the S2 but not in the S1).

I assume that is the consensus of anyone planning to become a 65S2 owner.

Hmmmm, lots of P65S1's still around. Maybe I should reconsider. I mainly wanted the S2 because it used a lot less energy to run and was supposed to have improved black levels, colour and contrast (For the S2 it's 2,000,000:1 vs 40,000:1 for the S1), but maybe the floating blacks will bother me. I didn't really care about the other features (ports, etc).

I don't believe anyone has tested a P65S2 yet though so we don't really know about the floating black on that particular model.
Reply
Reply
post #41 of 1176
6/7/10 at 7:09am
Now Amazon shows the 65 S2 as out of stock, ( they were showing a June 7 shipping date) did they sell them or are they delayed as a previous poster said.
Reply
Reply
post #42 of 1176
6/7/10 at 7:37am
Thread Starter 
They did not ship any and now that the expected in stock date has arrived they were not sent any units by Panasonic.

No retailer has actually shipped this product yet even though a couple of obscure online retailers have shown it as in stock for weeks (they just do that to lure customers). Sears has shown it as available for order for a few weeks but has not had stock.

When this unit will actually be in stock is anyone's guess but the day is close.
Reply
Reply
post #43 of 1176
6/7/10 at 12:47pm
I'm not seeing that big a difference between the two.

I just ordered the S1 from Best Buy with 3 years no interest and free delivery.
Reply
Reply
post #44 of 1176
6/7/10 at 5:46pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

Hmmmmm.... Interesting, so you decided the new features in the S2 outweigh floating blacks (which are reportedly in the S2 but not in the S1).

I assume that is the consensus of anyone planning to become a 65S2 owner.

Where is this discussed?
I was waiting for an S2 because I thought it was all around a step up, but if floating blacks are worse I will reconsider.
Reply
Reply
post #45 of 1176
6/7/10 at 11:07pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstyv View Post

Where is this discussed?
I was waiting for an S2 because I thought it was all around a step up, but if floating blacks are worse I will reconsider.

In 2008 floating blacks were a problem, in 2009 floating blacks were removed, people noticed rising black levels, in 2010 the floating blacks were added back in.
Reply
Reply
post #46 of 1176
6/8/10 at 7:06am
The wife and I had decided to get a 65" S1 due to the great price when I realized the S2 would be coming out right in our purchasing time frame and without a huge price premium over the S1. So here we wait, and then the V10 65" goes down to right at the same price as the upcoming S2 (slightly cheaper than the S2 online; slightly more at BB.)

I've read discussions on both the V10 and S2 series here on AVSforum till my eyes bleed, as well as looking at the published specs, and the nod seems to go to the V10. Am I overlooking something? The S2 is obviously a much newer model, but it doesn't have the feature set of the V10. At roughly equal price points, what does the S2 bring to the table that the V10 doesn't have?

Obviously the V10 is being phased out, so that $2700 price will only last as long as the sets do, but right now the two Panasonic models are direct competitors.
Reply
Reply
post #47 of 1176
6/8/10 at 11:26am
I read on a review that the S2's have the same increasing Black level issues as the V10"s and S1's. Has that been confirmed with the 54S2 that has already been released.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael1967 View Post

The wife and I had decided to get a 65" S1 due to the great price when I realized the S2 would be coming out right in our purchasing time frame and without a huge price premium over the S1. So here we wait, and then the V10 65" goes down to right at the same price as the upcoming S2 (slightly cheaper than the S2 online; slightly more at BB.)

I've read discussions on both the V10 and S2 series here on AVSforum till my eyes bleed, as well as looking at the published specs, and the nod seems to go to the V10. Am I overlooking something? The S2 is obviously a much newer model, but it doesn't have the feature set of the V10. At roughly equal price points, what does the S2 bring to the table that the V10 doesn't have?

Obviously the V10 is being phased out, so that $2700 price will only last as long as the sets do, but right now the two Panasonic models are direct competitors.
Reply
Reply
post #48 of 1176
6/8/10 at 11:59am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOB HAN View Post

I read on a review that the S2's have the same increasing Black level issues as the V10"s and S1's. Has that been confirmed with the 54S2 that has already been released.


Can you point to that review?

So far I can not find much at all on the "S" series having a big black level issue at all.......especially with the 58 & 65" models.


Oh....and for a $500-$600 savings I went with the S1 (65")
Reply
Reply
post #49 of 1176
6/8/10 at 3:43pm
This is all I could find.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1VXIS1...R1VXIS1JKHSD4R

See the comment at the bottom of the review by Rodney roof. I noticed the S1 thread had recent issues with lines in the picture, See the last few pages of the PSXX S1 owners thread, have you read any of that. ( specifically PeterUbers and Robshdtv)

The TV is going in a vacation home so it's not like it is used everyday, I just don't want to get something and be disappointed only to find out that next week the new S2 has fixed the issues. I have been quoted prices as low as $2,300 +- for the 65 S2 and $2,100 for the S1




Quote:
Originally Posted by Astropin View Post

Can you point to that review?

So far I can not find much at all on the "S" series having a big black level issue at all.......especially with the 58 & 65" models.


Oh....and for a $500-$600 savings I went with the S1 (65")
Reply
Reply
post #50 of 1176
6/8/10 at 7:31pm
Some people are saying the reason for the delay in the 65S2 vs the smaller S2's that people have the problems with, is that they are fixing the issues with the larger screens. So small screen S2's may be totally different than large screen S2's.
Reply
Reply
post #51 of 1176
6/9/10 at 12:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstyv View Post

Some people are saying the reason for the delay in the 65S2 vs the smaller S2's that people have the problems with, is that they are fixing the issues with the larger screens. So small screen S2's may be totally different than large screen S2's.

Interesting comments. Where did you hear this? Lets hope they fix the problems.

I have an issue with Panasonic not giving consumers a 58 or 65 option on the G20/25 series! They need to fire the person who makes these dumb decisions. I'm not falling for the "banana in the 3D tail pipe" trick (No disrespect to those who covet or own the VT series.)
Reply
Reply
post #52 of 1176
6/9/10 at 8:40am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstyv View Post

Some people are saying the reason for the delay in the 65S2 vs the smaller S2's that people have the problems with, is that they are fixing the issues with the larger screens. So small screen S2's may be totally different than large screen S2's.

That really doesn't make much sense. These types of issues in TV's are fixed before they ever go on display at industry trade shows. They just can't come out with every product on time.
Reply
Reply
post #53 of 1176
6/9/10 at 9:01am
Hello,

Well, I just got my P65S1 in this morning...total cost 2101.00. Now after reading on these forums and taking what i could digest into consideration I came to the decision of the P65s1 over the P58v10. BUT, now the P65s2 is coming out and I am hearing pros and cons of both.

I use standard DTV for my TV and a PS3 for my Blu-Ray. Do I need to spend the extra money and go with the P65v10 , P65s2, or P58v10? Just checking to see if I got a good deal or should I return what I have and wait.

This is the best place I have found to get an opinion due to the amount of SMEs here.

Thanks in advance
Reply
Reply
post #54 of 1176
6/9/10 at 9:08am
Thread Starter 
The only attribute we don't know about the P65S2 is the picture quality and since none have yet shipped or been tested it is impossible to know unless you extrapolate experience from other S2 sizes which doesn't necessarily follow.

We'll just have to wait until they start shipping and are tested.
Reply
Reply
post #55 of 1176
6/9/10 at 11:40am
Quote:
Originally Posted by abnrgr_2 View Post

Hello,

Well, I just got my P65S1 in this morning...total cost 2101.00. Now after reading on these forums and taking what i could digest into consideration I came to the decision of the P65s1 over the P58v10. BUT, now the P65s2 is coming out and I am hearing pros and cons of both.

I use standard DTV for my TV and a PS3 for my Blu-Ray. Do I need to spend the extra money and go with the P65v10 , P65s2, or P58v10? Just checking to see if I got a good deal or should I return what I have and wait.

This is the best place I have found to get an opinion due to the amount of SMEs here.

Thanks in advance

Personally I think you're good. I decided the same thing you did. I'm not seeing any major reason to wait for the S2, and I'm personally more concerned with having a 65" vs a 58" set. The v10's do offer more features......but do any of those features really out way the extra 7 inches? (For some yes, for others like me, no.) I've seen review after review where the 65" S1 offers a tremendous "bang for the buck". That's all I'm looking for.....a great picture at a great price. (Oh and if it has lines I'm sending it back......otherwise I'm good to go.)
Reply
Reply
post #56 of 1176
6/9/10 at 1:28pm
The V10 65 is still almost the exact same price as the S2 (and free shipping) through Amazon. If it'll stay that way for another 2 weeks (and stay in stock) we'll likely go that way unless reviews here show the S2 with a superior picture.

Electrician is coming out tomorrow to put an outlet up on the wall behind where the TV will hang. The next tough decision is how much of a chance to take on low price CL2 HDMI cables. It's going to take 50' - 60' of cable to get to where the new TV will hang, and that's right on the edge without paying a fortune for a signal-boosted wire.
Reply
Reply
post #57 of 1176
6/9/10 at 2:49pm
Thanks for your input! I was in the same boat and went the 65s1 way since every review was steering towards the s1. As for the price...do you think it's a good value or do you believe it will still go down in the near future upon the release of the s2?
Reply
Reply
post #58 of 1176
6/9/10 at 3:01pm
The s1 will likely disappear before prices go down too much further, if at all.
Reply
Reply
post #59 of 1176
6/9/10 at 6:39pm
thanks for the info, so I assume I got a good deal.
Reply
Reply
post #60 of 1176
6/9/10 at 9:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kstyv View Post

Where is this discussed?
I was waiting for an S2 because I thought it was all around a step up, but if floating blacks are worse I will reconsider.


I'm in the same boat, have waited months for 65s2 availability and now getting cold feet over floating blacks. I don't know if they will bother me personally a ton but it's not clear what the added value of s2 is. Seemingly better black levels (to start at least), lower power consumption, a little lighter... What else? I know no one has s2 yet so can't compare beyond specs, and inferences made from smaller s1 vs. s2, but is anyone expecting or even hoping for a significantly better picture (e.g. noticeably better blacks) than 65s1? Even so, enough to justify $400-500 more plus risk that floating blacks will bug you? Am I missing something else?
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays

AVS Top Picks

AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › The Official TC-P65S2 Owner's Discussion Thread