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thank-you so much for this.
For those who have been (unnecessarily) fearful that 3D capability would spell the end of quality 2D performance in projection:
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"Just came back from an awesome afternoon with Sonys new 3D-projector!
The Japansese have so far built two pre-samples that they tour around the world and we in Sweden are clearly prioritized. The official presentation is not planned until IFA this fall, which gives an indication on how unique this opportunity is.
The pre-sample is built upon the VW85, but in order to handle the new demand on faster refresh rates for displaying 3D pictures it sports brand new SXRD panels fresh from Sonys lab. Together with the bravia engine the signal is driven in 240 Hz for an as flicker free picture as possible. This machine is built on active shutter glasses (just like the TV's) where you sync on a frequency between the image signal and the spectacles. The highest recording frequency we use is 60 Hz which makes 120 Hz (2x60Hz) a minimum to be able to show 3D with this kind of material. The drawback with 120 Hz is that it is difficult for the glasses to shift without revealing trailing artifacts from the previous image. This is eliminated with 240 Hz technology and the idea is that you should get less flickering and judder during fast motion. The drawback is that you loose more light. The Sony technician I spoke to was talking about the option available to the consumer to go into the menu and choose 120 Hz (more light for material with little motion) or 240 Hz (less judder for fast moving material like sports). This is completely unique for Sony as of today and therefore worth a few extra lines to point out. If they only will get is as good in reality as in theory it will be awesome!
Besides the new panels they have also (as expected) boosted the brightness, which is necessary to compensate for the light loss you get with the glasses. In 2D, the power of this machine is insane! Without any measurements I would estimate we had about 30-40 fL on a Studiotek 130 G3. Respect! We also tested a few different screens; but ST 130 was completely superior in all aspects. But then we ran in a completely dark room with black walls, ceiling and floor. Well, there was power at least, and my impression was that it was much brighter than the VW85. How much the black level was suffering was hard to say without a point of reference, but to me it was nothing I noticed. On the contrary, my impression was that it had a higher contrast than its predecessor.
Enough about the projector. There will for sure be an opportunity to go through in more detail in it's own thread when we get a green light to make that info official. In this thread we continue with the 3D.
The 3D picture with active glasses is (as I have said before) different compared to what you get at the cinema with passive glasses. The effects are much greater and the depth more pronounced with active. It looked just like the Panasonic screen but insanely more impressive. The difference in impact watching 3D this way was is as big compared to regular projection as is between watching a movie on a 100' screen compared to a 42' TV. This is the way to experience it! The demo itself was very convincing and I have never seen 3D any better!
Now to perhaps the most interesting of all
The material we watched was really good with very little animated clips and gimmicky effects. Instead, we watched ordinary soccer (Barca of course ) and a little American football mixed with nature films. In other words, exactly the type of content you will have access to and watch when the content will increase with rising demand. Of course they had a few gaming demo's that were animated, but instead of frowning I sat there with a silly expression when MotorStorm rocked the screen and when the car hovered in mid air during the big jumps, you could hear the oohs and aahs from us in the audience. There's no doubt that the gaming industry will drive this 3D boom, but if we can get normal material in the form of sport, nature films and documentaries in 3D, as the demo material indicated, together with all the films that are shown in 3D today, I have no doubt that it will be a roaring success.
The Sony simply rocked. But the coolest thing was that it looked really, really good on ordinary 2D Transformers 2. Compared to that the 3D of course looked a bit dark and dull. But the 3D picture doesn't get any worse just because the 2D was amongst the best I have ever seen.
But we will take the projector in the coming projector thread as said previously"
"Just came back from an awesome afternoon with Sonys new 3D-projector!
The Japansese have so far built two pre-samples that they tour around the world and we in Sweden are clearly prioritized. The official presentation is not planned until IFA this fall, which gives an indication on how unique this opportunity is.
The pre-sample is built upon the VW85, but in order to handle the new demand on faster refresh rates for displaying 3D pictures it sports brand new SXRD panels fresh from Sonys lab. Together with the bravia engine the signal is driven in 240 Hz for an as flicker free picture as possible. This machine is built on active shutter glasses (just like the TV's) where you sync on a frequency between the image signal and the spectacles. The highest recording frequency we use is 60 Hz which makes 120 Hz (2x60Hz) a minimum to be able to show 3D with this kind of material. The drawback with 120 Hz is that it is difficult for the glasses to shift without revealing trailing artifacts from the previous image. This is eliminated with 240 Hz technology and the idea is that you should get less flickering and judder during fast motion. The drawback is that you loose more light. The Sony technician I spoke to was talking about the option available to the consumer to go into the menu and choose 120 Hz (more light for material with little motion) or 240 Hz (less judder for fast moving material like sports). This is completely unique for Sony as of today and therefore worth a few extra lines to point out. If they only will get is as good in reality as in theory it will be awesome!
Besides the new panels they have also (as expected) boosted the brightness, which is necessary to compensate for the light loss you get with the glasses. In 2D, the power of this machine is insane! Without any measurements I would estimate we had about 30-40 fL on a Studiotek 130 G3. Respect! We also tested a few different screens; but ST 130 was completely superior in all aspects. But then we ran in a completely dark room with black walls, ceiling and floor. Well, there was power at least, and my impression was that it was much brighter than the VW85. How much the black level was suffering was hard to say without a point of reference, but to me it was nothing I noticed. On the contrary, my impression was that it had a higher contrast than its predecessor.
Enough about the projector. There will for sure be an opportunity to go through in more detail in it's own thread when we get a green light to make that info official. In this thread we continue with the 3D.
The 3D picture with active glasses is (as I have said before) different compared to what you get at the cinema with passive glasses. The effects are much greater and the depth more pronounced with active. It looked just like the Panasonic screen but insanely more impressive. The difference in impact watching 3D this way was is as big compared to regular projection as is between watching a movie on a 100' screen compared to a 42' TV. This is the way to experience it! The demo itself was very convincing and I have never seen 3D any better!
Now to perhaps the most interesting of all
The material we watched was really good with very little animated clips and gimmicky effects. Instead, we watched ordinary soccer (Barca of course ) and a little American football mixed with nature films. In other words, exactly the type of content you will have access to and watch when the content will increase with rising demand. Of course they had a few gaming demo's that were animated, but instead of frowning I sat there with a silly expression when MotorStorm rocked the screen and when the car hovered in mid air during the big jumps, you could hear the oohs and aahs from us in the audience. There's no doubt that the gaming industry will drive this 3D boom, but if we can get normal material in the form of sport, nature films and documentaries in 3D, as the demo material indicated, together with all the films that are shown in 3D today, I have no doubt that it will be a roaring success.
The Sony simply rocked. But the coolest thing was that it looked really, really good on ordinary 2D Transformers 2. Compared to that the 3D of course looked a bit dark and dull. But the 3D picture doesn't get any worse just because the 2D was amongst the best I have ever seen.
But we will take the projector in the coming projector thread as said previously"
