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post #61 of 830
I can get a 50PK950 or a 50G20 for the same price. What would you choose?
post #62 of 830
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Originally Posted by barrist View Post

I can get a 50PK950 or a 50G20 for the same price. What would you choose?

both are a gamble right now.... the 50G20 has floating blacks and rissing blacks... and there are no English reviews yet on the PK950.

purchase both and do a side by side.... otherwise wait for a pro review on the PK950
post #63 of 830
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

both are a gamble right now.... the 50G20 has floating blacks and rissing blacks... and there are no English reviews yet on the PK950.

purchase both and do a side by side.... otherwise wait for a pro review on the PK950

Yeah, my question is definitely too premature.. LG has been intriguing the past few years, and Panny is kind of a turn-off right now with their blacks problem.

Will definitely be looking very closely.

Am i right to assume that the only thing the 950 adds is the wand remote/
post #64 of 830
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Originally Posted by barrist View Post

Yeah, my question is definitely too premature.. LG has been intriguing the past few years, and Panny is kind of a turn-off right now with their blacks problem.

Will definitely be looking very closely.

Am i right to assume that the only thing the 950 adds is the wand remote/

750 has no trueblack filter according to their website. and under remotes it says "2 (Magic Motion and Unified)" for 750 and "2 (Magic Motion and Universal)" for 950
post #65 of 830
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Originally Posted by halokilla77 View Post

I know this is the PK750 thread, but I'd thought I share the following since I'm waiting on the PK950. Rasmus Larsen at flatpanelshd is saying a review of the PK950 will be up hopefully by Monday Mar 22. I read on their forums.

Just wanted to share that is all. The more reviews the better right?

Source

Thanks for remembering that.
post #66 of 830
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Originally Posted by barrist View Post

Yeah, my question is definitely too premature.. LG has been intriguing the past few years, and Panny is kind of a turn-off right now with their blacks problem.

panny have had not only the "black problem". Have a look on the specific thread problems, and others (THX, Infinite black, deinterlacing, flickering, motion-blur, etc). Calibration options are also not at the LG (and Samsung) level. Also the audio of the past 2009 series was not good on pannys.

If you get a "working set", usually you will be very happy with an LG.
post #67 of 830
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Originally Posted by shaddix View Post

750 has no trueblack filter according to their website. and under remotes it says "2 (Magic Motion and Unified)" for 750 and "2 (Magic Motion and Universal)" for 950

Call me dumb, but what exactly do I need two remotes for? Aren't we moving forward and switching to an all-in-one solution?
post #68 of 830
Anyone know when/if the 750 will be available in Canada? I see that Best buy just resently started selling the 550.

Also is the THX feature a big improvement picture wise over the 550? Besides that and the look I don't see much different.
post #69 of 830
After reading about this TV I am getting interested in the 60" version!
I have been considering a Samsung 58" (either 58C590 0r 58C6500) but Im just wondering how the LG will compare?

AND - if anyone thinks the extra 2" (LG 60" vs Sammy 58") will be noticeable from 13' viewing distance!?

This will be replacing a samsung 50" FP-T5084
post #70 of 830
@mattldm I'm also interested in the 60" PK950. I had a Samsung 58" PNB650 Plasma and the directional buzzing was so annoying and loud that I couldn't take it anymore. So I'm staying away from Samsung. I saw the 50PK550 in person and I thought the picture was nice so I can only imagine how good the 750 or the 950 will look.

btw what does floating blacks mean? Someone please explain with a quick description.
post #71 of 830
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Originally Posted by mattldm View Post

AND - if anyone thinks the extra 2" (LG 60" vs Sammy 58") will be noticeable from 13' viewing distance!?

Not really. But having them can't be wrong.
post #72 of 830
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Originally Posted by halokilla77 View Post

btw what does floating blacks mean?

Where did you read that?
post #73 of 830
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Originally Posted by Mauri View Post

Where did you read that?

from RobbyTV's comment #62...

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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

both are a gamble right now.... the 50G20 has floating blacks and rissing blacks... and there are no English reviews yet on the PK950.

purchase both and do a side by side.... otherwise wait for a pro review on the PK950
post #74 of 830
talking about black level being variable with content I think i read.
post #75 of 830
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Originally Posted by shaddix View Post

750 has no trueblack filter according to their website. and under remotes it says "2 (Magic Motion and Unified)" for 750 and "2 (Magic Motion and Universal)" for 950

ah good to know

do all the PK series use the same panel?
post #76 of 830
Would the "floating blacks" be subjective? Meaning, depending on what is being displayed along with the black, it may be just an illusion of what we are seeing.

For example, A and B are the exact same.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/804599/
post #77 of 830
I saw the 750 and 550 at my local hhgregg today they both look great the 750 looks way better than the 750 well maybe not the picture but the design of it in general is great. Also the price on these is great.
post #78 of 830
About the initial plasma break-in, I have just written a post with some tips in the PK550 thread. Here is the link if you are interesting :

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...4&postcount=29
post #79 of 830
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Originally Posted by brian2305 View Post

I saw the 750 and 550 at my local hhgregg today they both look great the 750 looks way better than the 750 well maybe not the picture but the design of it in general is great. Also the price on these is great.

Is there a difference in the glare level of these two sets?
post #80 of 830
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Originally Posted by Mauri View Post

panny have had not only the "black problem". Have a look on the specific thread problems, and others (THX, Infinite black, deinterlacing, flickering, motion-blur, etc). Calibration options are also not at the LG (and Samsung) level. Also the audio of the past 2009 series was not good on pannys.

If you get a "working set", usually you will be very happy with an LG.

Flatpanels test - G20

Here is the test that contradicts every word you just said

Shadow detail : excellent, black levels: excellent, de-interlacing: above-average, Calibration options: Excellent (closest to kelvin 6500, greyscale etc)

Panasonic is a Heavy challenger to LG PK950. LG is always a risk if u buy it untested cause they always claim kuro blacks but have never matched panasonics black levels. And even if the black are rising, it would be from 0,03 to 0,08 and that number is STILL better than PS800 (0,12).

So we have to wait on AVS review and flatpanels until we can accurate say something. Just a pointer.

But i think the bar is set high for PK950. Just a reminder: Every plasma company has rising black levels, every technology: DLP, LCD, Plasma.
So it does exist on samsung & LG to.

waiting excited on the new reviews
post #81 of 830
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Originally Posted by hakuna-matata View Post

Flatpanels test - G20

Here is the test that contradicts every word you just said

Shadow detail : excellent, black levels: excellent, de-interlacing: above-average, Calibration options: Excellent (closest to kelvin 6500, greyscale etc)

Panasonic is a Heavy challenger to LG PK950. LG is always a risk if u buy it untested cause they always claim kuro blacks but have never matched panasonics black levels. And even if the black are rising, it would be from 0,03 to 0,08 and that number is STILL better than PS800 (0,12).

So we have to wait on AVS review and flatpanels until we can accurate say something. Just a pointer.

But i think the bar is set high for PK950. Just a reminder: Every plasma company has rising black levels, every technology: DLP, LCD, Plasma.
So it does exist on samsung & LG to.


waiting excited on the new reviews

If that were true, there wouldn't be the outrage at Panasonic.
What about Pioneers? Do you have a source for this?
post #82 of 830
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Originally Posted by kabouter View Post

Call me dumb, but what exactly do I need two remotes for? Aren't we moving forward and switching to an all-in-one solution?

They are two of the same remote. The sets with Magic Motion Remotes will have the ability to play some "games", much like the WII. If I understand it correctly the games are very simplistic, but hence the need for two remotes to play "head to head".
post #83 of 830
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Originally Posted by geobhurd View Post

They are two of the same remote. The sets with Magic Motion Remotes will have the ability to play some "games", much like the WII. If I understand it correctly the games are very simplistic, but hence the need for two remotes to play "head to head".

Whoa, I don't think that's right at all. My understanding is you get one traditional remote and the pointer-style remote. They do this so that you aren't forced to rely on a remote with a "gimmick" if you don't want to.

I haven't heard anything at all about games built into the TV. Dude, did I miss the joke/sarcasm in your post?
post #84 of 830
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Originally Posted by hakuna-matata View Post

Flatpanels test - G20

Here is the test that contradicts every word you just said

I'm sorry mate, but you did not get the point.

I said "panny have had.." and, of course, I was speaking about the G10. Very easy to understand, cause I have also said to have a look for the existing threads about problems

Since you have mentioned the new G20, I have read all the reviews about it (and also about all the other pannys) available until now, and if you want I can write you the list of its "minus". Most of them are the same of the old G10

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Originally Posted by hakuna-matata View Post

LG is always a risk if u buy it untested cause they always claim kuro blacks but have never matched panasonics black levels. And even if the black are rising, it would be from 0,03 to 0,08 and that number is STILL better than PS800 (0,12).

You are not giving us right informations.

There was only 1 time where, someone, start to say on the web that "kuro story" about LG, and it was 1 year ago. I, personally, have never found an official statement written by LG about that.

About the MML of the old PS8000, it was reported to be 0.09 cd/mq.

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Originally Posted by hakuna-matata View Post

Just a reminder: Every plasma company has rising black levels, every technology: DLP, LCD, Plasma. So it does exist on samsung & LG to.

Not really. Every plasma has rising Luminance (max brightness, or whatever it is called in English) of the panel, not MML. Ask that thing to D-Nice and other professional calibrators, and you will see who is right about that. Some weeks ago, in the "panny rising black" thread, D-nice gave a detailed answer about that thing, and he confirmed that he have seen that problem only on those panasonic models.
post #85 of 830
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Originally Posted by visscher View Post

Whoa, I don't think that's right at all. My understanding is you get one traditional remote and the pointer-style remote. They do this so that you aren't forced to rely on a remote with a "gimmick" if you don't want to.

I can confirm that. Some days ago I have seen some pics of the "magic" remote, and when it was working (the "windows style" pointer) inside the OSD screens .

But I have also read on another web site that one E.U. PK950 has some basic games inside. I don't know if they will be on the U.S. model too
post #86 of 830
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Originally Posted by kabouter View Post

Is there a difference in the glare level of these two sets?

yes less on the 750
post #87 of 830
If you have seen less glare on the PK750 panel, side by side with the PK550, then I suspect the PK750 has the same True black filter of the PK950. In the past series, LG has had only 1 type of filter (from what I know), and it was or it was not on some models.
post #88 of 830
looks like this TV is a dud.... because CP would have made some real positive comments on the PK750 by now.

this is just my opinion....

hey CP.... sell them while you can!
just a stupid joke.

I just hate delays.....

but money talks.... so what I say means nothing I guess.
post #89 of 830
nooooooooooooooo! if its a dud what will i do?!
post #90 of 830
Thread Starter 
Not a dud, for example Chad worked 14 hours yesterday, however Chad was here tonight and on the PK550 we discovered it has a better Ansi contrast ratio at about 2000:1 than the G25 at about 1600:1. G25 had better black levels, but the PK550 Has brighter whites.
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